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    William Osula and Newcastle

    Posted by Sandgrounder on 2/8/2024, 22:30:50

    21 year old striker at Sheff Utd, being signed by Newcastle for a reported £10M plus £5M in potential add ons. He scored 0 goals in 21 premier league appearances last year. Based on that, how much is Adebayo worth?!

      Re: William Osula and Newcastle

      Posted by m on 3/8/2024, 7:05:08, in reply to "William Osula and Newcastle "

      You have been keeping up haven’t you ?
      Newcastle , Villa to name but 2 have been doing this. Paying over inflated prices for young players to get around FFP
      You can’t base Adebeyors value on this

        Re: William Osula and Newcastle

        Posted by Tel on 3/8/2024, 6:53:05, in reply to "William Osula and Newcastle "

        Look at the two club owners, hence the daft fee.

          Re: William Osula and Newcastle

          Posted by Real Cuba on 2/8/2024, 23:01:59, in reply to "William Osula and Newcastle "

          I raised a similar point earlier in the week in relation to Chong.

          I was told that because we didn’t have a rich owner or large gates we would have to settle for a much reduced fee.

          I said Chong should be worth £25m, I stand by that.

          Eli in the same ballpark possibly as high as £30m.

          If we give any of our players away when other clubs are are charging ridiculous fees it won’t be accepted.

          Particularly as we are comfortably off and don’t need to see anyone.


            Re: William Osula and Newcastle

            Posted by Northeasthatter on 3/8/2024, 9:23:29, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

            Could have a valid point on the attendance and capacity crap. Most clubs with larger attendances are getting players in. Birmingham are going gung-ho in league 1 trying to buy their way out of it by the looks of things.

            I reckon we're looking at what Burnley did couple of seasons ago keep core squad add maybe 4 players in and try to win promotion then if that's achieved I reckon we would rebuild better for the following season

              Re: William Osula and Newcastle

              Posted by Really on 2/8/2024, 23:32:28, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

              'I was told that because we didn’t have a rich owner or large gates we would have to settle for a much reduced fee.'

              You've just made that up. It didn't happen

                Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                Posted by Notorious D on 3/8/2024, 8:49:44, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                He’s not making it up, I do remember someone saying it, possibly MG.

                  Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                  Posted by Real Cuba on 3/8/2024, 9:01:33, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                  For the benefit only of noting the Oxford and Hull conversation in response to “Really”.

                  Personally I would say we are comfortably off and should be able to ask what we want.

                  https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/msg/1722282082.html

                    Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                    Posted by Really on 3/8/2024, 9:09:12, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                    And that clearly didn't say what you were claiming. Because neither scenario applies to LTFC, as you used it. Can't you just try to be honest for once?

                      Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                      Posted by Notorious D on 3/8/2024, 9:25:24, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                      Clearly he was paraphrasing.

                      Leagrave Hatter stated that because we don’t have wealthy owners (in football terms), then we have to accept lower offers for our players.

                      He then reinforced his perspective by using Oxford as an example; a team that attain similar crowds to us, hence why Cuba then referred to the ‘ low gates’ argument.

                      Do you accurately remember word for word every conversation you’ve had in life?!

                        Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                        Posted by Really on 3/8/2024, 10:33:44, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                        For stuff like this, I don't need to. There is a Searchbox. And I also remember enough to put Cuba's comments in the context of his continual undermining of the club, and his habit of shifting tge goalposts, claiming opinion as fact and telling half truths that suit his view. I don't trust him in the slightest, he is a proven liar too.

                          Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                          Posted by Notorious D on 3/8/2024, 12:16:16, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                          You’ve skirted around the point I flagged though. He essentially paraphrased correctly what Leagrave Hatter had said, so I don’t agree that this is another example of him ‘lying’.

                          It’s open to interpretation about his reasons for consistently repeating the same points over and over again. It could be a case of him having an agenda against the club/persons; alternatively, he could have limited self control and feel the need to vent whenever he feels irritated.

                          Admittedly, the multi names undermines his credibility; which begs the question, why do you do the same thing?

                            Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/8/2024, 10:36:38, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                            What name do you normally use, really?

                            Only if Cuba is going to get called out for using multiple names then those wio respond to him should to.

                            Havana laugh, which I quite like, is a new name but it usually the same one or two who respond to him, usually with nonsense like this about semantics rather than his point. He's right btw, we won't get the same for Adebayo that someone like Leeds or Southampton would

                              Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                              Posted by Just an observation on 3/8/2024, 10:55:51, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                              Well spotted and, good for you for backing up Cuba. He does sometimes flog a dead horse. However, you are correct that when he does make a valid point the usual suspects will give him shit for his dead horse flogging whilst not answering the valid points

                  Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                  Posted by Real Cuba on 2/8/2024, 23:49:12, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                  I haven’t, but I really can’t be bothered to go find that post tonight.

                  I will do at some point and share it.

                  Oxford was the specific example.

                  Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                  Posted by bbb on 2/8/2024, 23:08:51, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                  You make some very good points, many I agree with.

                  But why do you feel the need to go over and over and over the same point?

                  Do you think by being so repetitive, things will change?

                  Are you going tomorrow?

                  3 questions, last 2 are a yes or no.

                    Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                    Posted by Notorious D on 3/8/2024, 8:50:23, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                    +1.

                      Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                      Posted by Real Cuba on 2/8/2024, 23:26:23, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                      I wasn’t particularly minded to repeat that point but the story about Osula annoyed me also.

                      Someone on here suggested that we were like Oxford and would always have to undersell our players.

                      This has annoyed me for many years, Curtis and Leon as examples.

                      But this time I feel very strongly about, underselling is based on some perception of inferiority and is totally against the ethics of the club and the way we must develop.

                      If someone wants one of our best players they must pay over the odds for him.

                      That £10m valuation for Chong was ludicrous but still fans both on here and social media said they would take it.

                      Bonkers.

                      No - 60 years of frustration, amplified by blowing our chance in January
                      No (at a wedding so I will have rely on the live stream which will make me just as unpopular as I am on here….)

                        Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                        Posted by Number 9 on 3/8/2024, 6:43:29, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                        You're a grown man having a seizure over some idle social media gossip. You are the reason why Tim Berner-Lee is suicidal.

                          Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                          Posted by bbb on 2/8/2024, 23:35:48, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                          At your age, you should probably calm down and chill out a bit.

                          Like you, I've seen us go from the top, to the bottom and back again.

                          I wouldn't bother if I was on my own but my 2 lads enjoying it makes it worth it.

                          It's never all about the football, 90 minutes of that shit often gets in the way of a good day out.

                          Chill your beans a bit lad. Neither you or I are going to change things by moaning on here.

                            Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                            Posted by Real Cuba on 2/8/2024, 23:47:49, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                            All true, others can let it go better than me but when you get to my age and add on 20 years it scares the hell out of me.

                            20 years ago we were serenading Martin Allen off the pitch.

                            In 20 years time I will be probably be gone.

                            Hence why others can be so patient about things when time marches on confuses me, you get one life and you have to live it and I felt last season we didn’t do justice to what was probably a once in a two generations opportunity.

                            And realistically getting back at the first attempt is an opportunity we will never have again, hence my incredulity on why we haven’t been more active and making this squad rock solid.

                            I will never be ungrateful for what 2020 have done, none of can ever be but if we don’t do more in the next week or so I am surely not the only one who will wonder if we have missed a golden chance to take advantage of a great team by making this a far stronger squad.

                              Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                              Posted by HH on 3/8/2024, 9:04:24, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                              I agree with some of your points.

                              But I would he very surprised if we don't sign 2-3 players before the window shuts. The market has been slow and I suspect the reason we've not so far is due to not finding value etc. No point to pay over the top.

                              If we don't sign anyone whatsoever then it's been an incredibly poor window. But we're not there - yet.

                                Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                Posted by Notorious D on 3/8/2024, 9:00:50, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                Agree with your last two paragraphs in particular.

                                  Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                  Posted by bbb on 2/8/2024, 23:55:15, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                  Totally agree. I've been very vocal on my thoughts regards January, this pre season etc.

                                  I'll even throw another one in the mix. The fact it took until a week before the season starts to announce we're keeping our home shirt smacks of a deal that fell through.

                                  I get your frustration but don't let it take over your life mate.

                                    Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                    Posted by The Outsider on 3/8/2024, 0:00:24, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                    "Conversation" from earlier.

                                    Re: Hmmm - IYKYK?

                                    Posted by The Outsider on 2/8/2024, 17:44:42, in reply to "Re: Hmmm - IYKYK?"

                                    That post was in June - I knew long before then that the home kit was staying the same.


                                    Re: Hmmm - IYKYK?

                                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 2/8/2024, 17:50:34, in reply to "Re: Hmmm - IYKYK?"

                                    In all honesty, from a marketing and commercial standpoint it's very poor not to communicate this earlier, especially if we knew before June


                                    Re: Hmmm - IYKYK?

                                    Posted by The Outsider on 2/8/2024, 17:55:30, in reply to "Re: Hmmm - IYKYK?"

                                    I don't disagree and I made this point to the club a few weeks ago. There must be a reason why they didn't announce it - I don't know what that reason is.

                                      Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                      Posted by bbb on 3/8/2024, 0:02:47, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                      Cool. So you knew before June. Why didn't the club just announce it then?

                                        Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                        Posted by The Outsider on 3/8/2024, 0:05:52, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                        See the last paragraph of my post.

                                        Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                        Posted by Ches Fordroad on 3/8/2024, 0:05:10, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                        They wanted to let Borino make an utter prick of himself first?

                                          Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                          Posted by bbb on 3/8/2024, 0:09:15, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                          Now thats something I could be on board with.

                                            Re: William Osula and Newcastle

                                            Posted by Ches Fordroad on 3/8/2024, 9:52:28, in reply to "Re: William Osula and Newcastle "

                                            It’d be written into the club’s DNA 🤣🤣

                                            Genuinely, if I knew someone was doing what he does purely to feed his otherwise inadequate ego I’d be feeding them false info

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