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Michal Helik

Posted by Ltfc39 on 1/8/2024, 18:41:52

Being linked to Luton - someone who I said on here back in May as being a potential pick.

Very much a data pick this and a wise one for me. Presumably the top goalscoring CB in the Championship last year. Was in the top 5 for aerial duals won and the leading player when it came to clearances. Aiming to get into the Poland squad. Yes Huddersfield got relegated. (Probably said a lot about Pearson and the rest of their defence).

28 years old, not young and I guess limited resale value. But for me he is an ideal Tom Lockyer replacement.

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Posted by Leagrave Hatter on 1/8/2024, 20:29:42, in reply to "Michal Helik"

Played for teams in relegation battles who have conceded a fair few goals. As a CB you are partly responsible. Just glanced at the Huddersfield forum and a few want to sell for a lot of money (7 million 😂

or a deal involving Taylor.
Can't see it happening.
Wonder if that might be the problem for us getting deals done. Selling clubs demanding higher fees because we have parachute payments. The loan market might be a better option in that case.

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Posted by Bucket Hat on 1/8/2024, 19:40:56, in reply to "Michal Helik"

Where is he being linked? Decent player who has won Huddersfield’s player of the year for last 2 seasons, scored 9 goals last season and is in the last year of his contract.

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Posted by Crisps on 1/8/2024, 19:01:37, in reply to "Michal Helik"

Where is the link then ? Would be happy if he signed a very good centre half .

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Posted by Biggy Hat on 1/8/2024, 18:46:27, in reply to "Michal Helik"

Is he on a free ?

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Posted by Ltfc39 on 1/8/2024, 18:47:49, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Under contract. Presume he would cost a couple of million.

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Posted by Biggy Hat on 1/8/2024, 18:51:29, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Shame , sounded like a possibility until a fee was involved

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Posted by Toddingtonsteve on 1/8/2024, 19:25:18, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

You know that out of contract players get significant signing on fees right?

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Posted by Biggy Hat on 1/8/2024, 19:34:26, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

I’m well aware how it works

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Posted by Ron Baynham gloves on 1/8/2024, 18:50:44, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Ex Barnsley definitely a shoe in

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Posted by Ltfc39 on 1/8/2024, 18:54:44, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

...and dare I say, maybe makes the Joe Taylor rumour a bit more plausible.

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 19:01:42, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Are you serious?

I’d rather play Taylor at Centre Back.

Give away a prize talent for an aging centre back who was relegated last season?

We were in the ‘kin Premier League.

On a free maybe but not for money or an p/x.

Re: Michal Helik

Posted by Listen mate on 1/8/2024, 20:28:52, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Taylor is no where near as good as you think he is.

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 20:33:24, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

He is worth more to us than Helik would be.

Play Taylor alongside a proper forward rather than Woodrow.

No wonder he was pissed off.

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Posted by bbb on 1/8/2024, 20:37:08, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Taylor wasn't interested at all at Vale. Huffed and puffed his way round the pitch. Then got subbed. Not the kind of attitude you'd expect for someone trying to earn a first team place.

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 20:42:39, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Would you playing in that starting XI and with the manager not turning up?

Doesn’t make you feel very wanted.

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 1/8/2024, 21:25:46, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Fucking laughable.

Yet last season, with no real evidence to back it up, you were slating Giles for his attitude.

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 23:06:07, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Giles didn’t want to be with us Ches.

Taylor damn well does and wants to play and score goals.

But is stuck behind Woodrow for no know reason.

Taylor is frustrated, Giles was just arrogant and didn’t seem to care.

Quite different.

Re: Michal Helik

Posted by Genuine question on 1/8/2024, 23:27:36, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

You haven't got a clue.
Taylor wants out. He's instructed his agent to find a move. His attitude in training was bad and this resulted in a row with Edwards.
Now stop claiming you know it all, when you clearly don't.

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Posted by Doctor Ince on 2/8/2024, 12:05:47, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

I know from the horses mouth he thinks he has done enough on loan to be given a shot at a first team place here.

Based solely on that if he has been told he isn't getting that chance I can imagine he is a bit pissed off.

Top scorer for two clubs last season across two leagues, meets loan targets, and then apparently that's still not enough?

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 23:35:19, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

And if what you say is true what does it say about judgement of players?

Woodrow does hardly anything on the pitch in two years but doesn’t argue with the manager and hence he stays in favour.

Taylor shows a bit of spirit because he wants to play but could be jettisoned.

Are you really saying that you think Woodrow for another season is a better move football wise?

What was the point of signing and loaning out a genuine goalscorer and then not giving him a proper chance?

I would be pissed off if I was him too.

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Posted by Ramridge Raider on 1/8/2024, 20:52:01, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

So he played shit but somehow it's Rob Edwards fault???

Could you imagine Tom Lockyer taking that attitude at 21?

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Posted by bbb on 1/8/2024, 20:48:42, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

He's a professional footballer. Was playing in a reasonable side against a 2nd division team, a perfect chance to impress. He was fucking useless.

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 20:59:40, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

I am only surmising that being played in the “XI” after being given 25 minutes with Woodrow at Tannadice hasn’t gone down well.

He went out on loan did very well and could probably be justified in wanting a chance to play along side Morris or Eli or both.

Natural finishers are gold dust and he is that.

And having an attitude isn’t necessarily a problem as long as he help taught to channel it the right way.

I hope he gets to play a fuller part on Saturday and not just with Woodrow.

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Posted by Ramridge Raider on 1/8/2024, 21:10:13, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Having an attitude is a massive problem. I wasn't there so can only take from what has been posted on here, but if he was sulking then he won't get anywhere near the first team.

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 1/8/2024, 21:27:05, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

"I wasn't there ...... "

Nor was Cuba, but that's never stopped him before

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Posted by Ramridge Raider on 1/8/2024, 21:31:58, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 21:17:40, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Tell me this pre-season when he has been given a true to chance to shine. Ditto McAtee.

Both come behind Woodrow, why?

Mick is mentoring him, he will surely have a word but he need to be given a chance.

I mean he showed at Wembley what he could when put through.

And repeatedly last season.

Re: Michal Helik

Posted by Ramridge Raider on 1/8/2024, 21:25:46, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

I've only seen glimpses of him, so frankly cannot offer up an opinion on him.

I suspect, rather than having him as 4th choice striker, the club see more value in him going on loan again to continue his development and get minutes.

Even you must agree that a move like that would make sense.

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 1/8/2024, 21:33:09, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

There's really no point .......

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 21:28:20, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Not with Brown’s injury record this year.

We must have four first team ready forwards.

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Posted by Ramridge Raider on 1/8/2024, 21:34:06, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

I suspect Brown will be close to being fit if we loan out Taylor. Remember, Ogbene can also play up front.

Woodrow sits in as 4th choice striker.

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Posted by Doctor Ince on 2/8/2024, 12:27:10, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Ogbene is apparently out first choice rwb.

With hashioka both shit and injured who is playing rwb if Ogbene has to fill in up top?

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Posted by Real Cuba on 1/8/2024, 23:08:18, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Why exactly???

What has Woodrow done to deserve a squad place other than being fit which pretty much gets you a game at the moment regardless.

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Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/8/2024, 7:20:09, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

4th/5th choice striker is the graveyard slot. Not many strikers are prepared to do it - Woodrow will.

You want Taylor to occupy that spot despite the fact he would barely get game time. Surely it's beneficial to Taylor and the club to continue his development on loan at a League One club rather than warm the bench?

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Posted by FrednBob on 1/8/2024, 23:47:55, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

Everything in pre-season suggests that Taylor will be on the bench against Burnley. I don’t think he could expect more than that.

It’s up to him to take his chances when presented with them.

I don’t know why the discussion has to become a knock on Woodrow. He offers something different to Taylor. It’s not one or the other.

Re: Michal Helik

Posted by bbb on 2/8/2024, 10:34:22, in reply to "Re: Michal Helik"

He is one of Cubas many obsessions.

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