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    FAO Godders

    Posted by The Dutchman on 21/6/2024, 23:35:57

    Honest question. How do your ever so slightly communist views align with your religious beliefs? It was Marx who wrote 'Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions'

      Re: FAO Godders

      Posted by Godders on 22/6/2024, 0:22:31, in reply to "FAO Godders"

      My ever so slightly communist views as you so eloquently put it come from the theology that all people are equally made unique in the image of God and therefore have great value. As such I believe in standing up for those who have no one (or very little) voice to stand up for them. I also believe that that is part the role of the church: far from crushing people but enabling, restoring, and equipping them.

      That's the benevolent love of God and how it should be played out in society. The love of God should never be confused with man made religious practices which may or may not ne helpful for people to draw close to God.

      And whilst we're at it Jesus was the model in all this and instructed his followers to meet together after he'd left them. At that point organised religion comes into play because whenever more than one person meets up an element of organisation is required. So people shouldn't condemn organised religion per se, but appreciate that the "organised" bit is a human construction and little, in itself, to do with God.

        Re: FAO Godders

        Posted by Ummm on 22/6/2024, 12:55:53, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

        Was God a spaceman from another planet, galaxy or parallel universe? If not who was he and how did he originate?

        Alternatively was God created by ancient folks with no understanding of biology and physics or by the wealthy and powerful to keep the peasants in their place?

        And finally is there a place for believers in the creation in today's World?

          Re: FAO Godders

          Posted by Godders on 22/6/2024, 13:30:51, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

          Your first paragraph illustrates that you don't understand what "God" actually means. God transcends time and is therefore begotten, not made nor created.

          The creation story is quoted or referenced numerous times in the New Testament including by Jesus so its incredibly relevant. Whether we think it's literal or metaphorical though is on my current thinking, all but irrelevant.

          Re: FAO Godders

          Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 22/6/2024, 9:56:00, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

          Fair answer, but you are a hypocrite on your Farage/Corbyn stance regarding Russia as per your posts last night.

            Re: FAO Godders

            Posted by Godders on 22/6/2024, 10:36:17, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

            Hypocritical? I appreciate I can sometimes be hypocritical, but I don't see how I was hypocritical about my comments last night. Feel free to explain. You might not agree but that isn't necessarily being hypocritical.

            Re: FAO Godders

            Posted by attertap on 22/6/2024, 4:47:09, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

            Thought I was on the wrong forum for a moment with that level of intelligence and insight.

              Re: FAO Godders

              Posted by J in C on 22/6/2024, 2:50:31, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

              Top replay padre

                Re: FAO Godders

                Posted by J in C on 22/6/2024, 6:27:23, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                Imagine jumping on a thread because my mates and chums replied, typing a 3 word response and cocking that up.

                  Re: FAO Godders

                  Posted by J in C on 22/6/2024, 9:17:07, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                  Imagine having no mates n chums and wishing you were me.

                Re: FAO Godders

                Posted by pingu on 22/6/2024, 1:00:46, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                nicely put mate.

                Re: FAO Godders

                Posted by Boris Yeltsin on 21/6/2024, 23:42:35, in reply to "FAO Godders"

                They're both ideologies which require obedience to the faith.

                Christianity served a similar role in Rome as Communism did in Russia. Create a tale to galvanise the masses to overthrow the ruling class and put your 'priest class' in power. Clamp down on disbelievers and create certain rituals as to how things should be done as sings of obedience to the faith.

                In the eyes of a downtrodden peasant, what really is the difference between Lenin and Jesus?

                  Re: FAO Godders

                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 22/6/2024, 10:26:55, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                  Jesus, in the ten commandments, said people should worship God, treat all people as equal, and promote peace.

                  Lenin said the opposite.

                    Re: FAO Godders

                    Posted by crumpsall on 21/6/2024, 23:53:39, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                    You're confusing Christianity, the organised religion, with the words of Jesus I suspect....

                      Re: FAO Godders

                      Posted by Godders on 22/6/2024, 0:04:59, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                      Absolutely spot on.

                        Re: FAO Godders

                        Posted by Boris Yeltsin on 22/6/2024, 0:03:33, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                        Quite difficult to confuse, as we don't have any of Jesus' surviving words, just 2nd+ hand accounts, all from people who were organising the faith.

                          Re: FAO Godders

                          Posted by pingu on 22/6/2024, 9:44:40, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                          i cant imagine how dull you must be in real life.

                            Re: FAO Godders

                            Posted by Bore alert on 22/6/2024, 8:22:17, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                            Mate, you are trying to appear intellectual but actually saying nothing of any substance. Goes for all your recent posts.

                              Re: FAO Godders

                              Posted by crumpsall on 22/6/2024, 0:19:11, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                              I don't think you understand the provenance of the Gospels maybe?

                              I might tend to agree about the Epistles.

                                Re: FAO Godders

                                Posted by Godders on 22/6/2024, 0:26:49, in reply to "Re: FAO Godders"

                                In those days word of mouth stories passed down the generations was considered a reliable method of recalling events - partly because so few people could actually read and/or write.

                                Any historian worth their salt understands this and has little problem with the audio tradition as a primary source.

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