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    Playing poorly and being top of your group

    Posted by Magaluf Hatter on 21/6/2024, 8:16:49

    Aint too bad

      Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group

      Posted by Wighthatter on 21/6/2024, 8:27:58, in reply to "Playing poorly and being top of your group"

      System all wrong, playing same players, use the squad, go for the win, entertainment.
      Will lose final group game. We ALL see it, but the management team cannot.
      Same old England. When will it change.

      Anyway, Town back in the prem.

        Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group

        Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 21/6/2024, 8:42:42, in reply to "Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group"

        Think we'll draw the final game, get out of the group but go out in the last 16, Southgate will resign immediately and get a lucrative job with a club after the dust has settled.

      Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group

      Posted by Madhatter on 21/6/2024, 8:27:22, in reply to "Playing poorly and being top of your group"

      Well its been poor first two games,really need a kick up the arse. Cant get any worse.









        While the manager takes all the flak

        Posted by m on 21/6/2024, 9:48:44, in reply to "Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group"

        And for the most part it's deserved , what can he do when millionaire footballers aren't able to pass the ball 5 yards to each other ?

          Re: While the manager takes all the flak

          Posted by Music Critic on 21/6/2024, 9:53:53, in reply to "While the manager takes all the flak"

          When the brain is scrambled you make silly mistakes - in all walks of life, in all types of jobs

          These players that are excellent for their clubs don't become shit overnight, do they? I also don't hold to the theory that it's only the overseas players that make them look good in domestic football either. Pep ain't going to frequently select Foden and Walker if they ain't top, top quality. There's got to be another reason. You saw Rice at Luton and throughout this season just gone - he was absolutely superb

          Loke HH said, we have no identity, the players look confused, they seem unclear on what they should be doing. That's coaching, instruction and
          tactical stuff, not technical

            Re: While the manager takes all the flak

            Posted by MG on 21/6/2024, 10:11:34, in reply to "Re: While the manager takes all the flak"

            Their brains shouldn't be scrambled though should they?

            They should be able to adapt to multiple systems and they do it for their clubs all the time.

            I'm not a big fan of Southgate (even though he has a good record relative to what's gone before) but there is no way the players should be getting a free pass for a performance like that.

              Re: While the manager takes all the flak

              Posted by Music Critic on 21/6/2024, 10:18:44, in reply to "Re: While the manager takes all the flak"

              They should certainly not get a free pass. Not saying that at all. But you see the very good squad we have and then you see the dross being produced, there must be another denominator

              It seems obvious to me they don't know what they should be doing and when or how

              They should be able to adapt to multiple systems and they do it for their clubs all the time.

              Exactly!

                Re: While the manager takes all the flak

                Posted by MG on 21/6/2024, 11:09:28, in reply to "Re: While the manager takes all the flak"

                The answer isn't always simply that it's the manager / coaches though is all I am saying.

                Southgate has done better than most over his time and I am not buying the suggestion that our players are THAT good. Some of them are I think but I'm not sure we have the depth of a lot of the other national squads.

                  Re: While the manager takes all the flak

                  Posted by Music Critic on 21/6/2024, 11:23:06, in reply to "Re: While the manager takes all the flak"

                  The answer isn't always simply that it's the manager / coaches though is all I am saying.

                  Oh, I totally agree. But sometimes it is that simple

                  I've said on here on more than one occasion that Southgate has achieved more than most England managers but something is going/has gone very wrong, very quickly

                    Re: While the manager takes all the flak

                    Posted by MG on 21/6/2024, 13:51:02, in reply to "Re: While the manager takes all the flak"

                    Yes that's fair.

                    The England games have been the only ones in the tournament I have watched.

                    It sounds like I would have been better taking the opposite approach!

              Re: While the manager takes all the flak

              Posted by m on 21/6/2024, 9:59:19, in reply to "Re: While the manager takes all the flak"

              not at all. Like you say Rice, fabulous player. Foden player of the season.
              I think he's fell into the trap of picking his best players and not his best team.
              But also. Let's be honest. What club side would really want him as manager ? Middlesbrough!! And that's still a good for for him.

                Re: While the manager takes all the flak

                Posted by Music Critic on 21/6/2024, 10:02:00, in reply to "Re: While the manager takes all the flak"

                Yeah, agree with that

                Someone mentioned it earlier - he'll get a cushy number in Saudi

              Re: While the manager takes all the flak

              Posted by Magaluf Hatter on 21/6/2024, 9:51:00, in reply to "While the manager takes all the flak"

              He can select players who can pass dribble and hit the net

            Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group

            Posted by Music Critic on 21/6/2024, 8:19:58, in reply to "Playing poorly and being top of your group"

            A weak Group but, yeah, ok

              Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group

              Posted by Midnight Son on 21/6/2024, 8:26:24, in reply to "Re: Playing poorly and being top of your group"

              They hit the post and it went in- we hit the post and it went out.Narrow margins everywhere but nonetheless we dont look right. The professional analysts will be doing their best to identify weak ppoints but it aint easy.

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