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Next season squad and Manager
Posted by Frog Hatter on 5/5/2024, 6:46:55
Assuming we are down and hard to see any other outcome…the squad will need to be rebuilt. Rob Edwards will get some decent offers and couldn’t blame him if he takes a bigger job.
Eli, Doughty and Kaminski will be sold for decent sums that will help rebuild the squad. All deserve top level football as does Barkley - his fee will be interesting. Osho leaving on a free and Mengi also likely to get offers. Townsend could well stay and be valuable in the Championship. Clark, Bell, Berry, Morris…to stay…who else??
Burke is Prem level but too fragile so see him staying along with Bell, Morris, Clark,
I think Barkley can leave on a free if we go down …I believe we only get a fee (has to be a min of £5m) if we stay up. Obviously if we stay up and wanted him to leave then we don’t have to take a fee but that would be unlikely.
A huge amount is going to depend on what we are willing to spend on wages.
Having not spent in January which is ultimately what has cost us GS will know that the optics of our better players leaving to get a pay rise at Hull or Stoke won’t be acceptable.
The whole idea of parachute payments to help the relegated clubs.
If the tag line is that we need to sell and cut the wage bill the questioning will be getting greater.
Another challenge is that the players leaving on free won’t be on high wages, so to get a Berry replacement will cost us.
Whether there is ambition to pay higher wages will determine our season more than the transfer fees paid.
Not sure I agree there will be a mass exodus of players. Leicester retained most of their squad after going down including KDH who was statically one of the best players this season in the Championship.
Not sure Burke is not premier league level to be honest. Maybe for one of the promoted teams, but nothing above that. Only Mengi I would consider premier league.
As to Edwards - if he keeps us up (about 30% chance) he will get offers from other PL clubs struggling next year - if we go down then I think if he is thinking about himself he might want to look at offers from a "bigger" Championship club - he will be in demand as manager that has achieved promotion from that league and a Southampton/Leeds/Norwich etc could all be sensible options - In terms of Luton of course we would want him to stay in either scenario. If he did stay the first 3 months of season will be crucial for him as they could undo the positives if not careful both for us and other clubs
The bookies don’t give us 30% chance…..however discontent at West Ham maybe could work in our favour. I don’t think RE will leave now but if a PL team is doing badly after 10 games and sack their manager we might be at risk Particularly if we aren't doing well.
It will depend on if and what sort of release clause he has in his contract. I expect it's likely there is one given that he left Man U for a club that had a high chance of getting relegated.
I honestly don't see a rush of bigger job offers coming in for RE, regardless of where Luton finish. If we, (and we may) stay up, then it will be on a very low total. Yes it has been done on a low budget, but still doesn't make him a top manager (yet). Put another way, which "bigger clubs" are we talking about? It certainly wouldn't be a moneybags club. So would they be more appealing than staying here and consolidating the PL position? If we stay up, would he want to drop back down to a "bigger club" in Championship?
Elsewhere, the Wales FA might include him on their shortlist if results don’t improve for Page. Doubt if Edwards will want to leave league football though.
I suspect Wolves would be looking for more experience. Of course that would not guarantee anything, but it is usually the way things go. From a manager point of view, I would think if you were right, then it would need to happen rapidly, for both RE and LTFC. You would want the summer to organise the upcoming season, rather than both clubs getting a new bod with no preparation. But I don't see it happening anyway. (This year)
Exactly. At the end of the day whatever we think of him his record will be one league 2 promotion, one Championship promotion and one PL relegation assuming we go down. That might be attractive to a Championship club if he was out of work, but not to a PL club.
We all know how it works though. Let’s say by December we’re bottom half of championship , the mumblings of discontent will start and he’ll be fighting for his job. Football fans have short memories by and large and what’s happened in the past is soon forgotten. Think a lot will also depend on what he’s given by the board to rebuild the squad
I genuinely hope not. There will be 3 Championship clubs that are in the play offs this year that are arguably better propositions than us - maybe not culturally but the money they will spend.
It may well come down to the funds that Sweet and the Board offer him. If RE genuinely believes we can push for top two next season then he surely would stay.
He knows that at Luton, unless it goes horrendously wrong he has a secure job in a great environment.
When you say 3, I take it you include Leeds and Southampton. They will have higher revenue than us as they also have parachute payments, but will have higher matchday and commercial income. But their outgoings will be higher. You might think there are other reasons they are better propositions, but as far as I'm aware neither are looking likely to sack their manager.
WBA and Norwich won't have parachute payments, so will have less financial clout unless their owners put significant funds in. That might happen, but I'd imagine only takes them to a similar position as us and they will need an eye on FFP. Again I don't follow either club closely, but didn't think they were unhappy with their managers anyway.
If you look at the championship for next season. We will likely be the smallest club there unless Peterborough or Oxford come up. I'm wary of this talk of coming straight back up again. going to be very tough
someone said to me he couldn't settle down South which is why they loaned him out. I guess that might change over summer. in some respects if Doughty goes it would be one less player to try and replace if Giles came back
Now that's just silly. You can see where we will fit for average crowd size due to the size of our ground. Our turnover will be 4th highest if either Leeds or Southampton get promoted and 5th if neither do. Sheffield Utd will be one with higher revenue, but unless they get a new owner are a financial basket case.
All this talk of the money we'll have doesn't mean alot though. This season shows that 2020 aren't going to being spending loads on the the squad. They'll expect RE to do it on a tight budget again. Plenty of Championship clubs will spend more than us.
They won't spend more than we can afford. Rightly, they will spend less that we could afford as there's a bigger picture with the new ground etc.
Even so, very few clubs will be able to match our budget next year because they simply won't have as much income. A few (e.g. Stoke, Boro) have rich owners, but are limited by FFP and tend to be shite at spending what they do have anyway.
Anyway, at the end of the day it isn't all about what you spend but how well you spend it. We've been better than most at that and hopefully that continues.
Yes, match day revenue will be one of the smallest in the Championship. But last season in the Championship it was only around 25% of total revenue. With parachute payments it will be a much lower %.
end of the road for Pelly,Shea etc. Nakamba will still be here, I think Morris too and would like to think him and Taylor could make a good partnership ?
A real shame he didn’t get a premier league appearance for us. Great servant and did a wonderful job as Captain towards the end of the play off final - his double fist pumps when both coin tosses for the shootout and his calmly taken penalty will be lasting memories of him (along with the goals he seemed to score every week from Alan Sheehan free kicks in L1/2).
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