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Post match thoughts
Posted by Doctor Ince on 27/4/2024, 19:02:12
The last 10 minutes or so aside it's been two really poor performances, when we need points.
Players might be carrying injuries, but if that's the case why are we persisting with this high intensity tactic?
We looked much better with Adebayo on. We have to find a way to start both Morris and Adebayo on Friday.
Barkley looked absolutely knackered. Imo he has to start just because of his quality but he could hardly move today.
I was looking forward to seeing Hashioka getting a good run out in his best position but now I'd rather see Fred play there.
Morris has the passion and the effort but it wasn't matched by anyone else today.
Doughty looks absolutely fucked as well but we've loaned out his only possible replacement. Bell has played about 500 games this year before his injury so was likely to get one.
Chong must be the weakest player in the league but he does have the potential to offer something.
It's frustrating because from what I've seen this season we could've stayed up relatively comfortably if it wasn't for a combination of injuries and poor decision making at board and management level.
Edwards should've changed it sooner today and imo needs to consider the tactics with so many injuries. Teams seems to have figured it out since the brighton game. We scored every game but concede 2 or 3.
We needed a CB in January to replace Lockyer regardless of other injuries. Before Ches starts - no I don't have any suggestions, if I did a premier league club would be paying me lots of money to tell them. We pay people lots of money to tell us and I don't believe there wasn't one available.
I don't see us getting another point unfortunately unless Adebayo comes back bang in form. Going down isn't the end of the world, this season has sorted the stadium, given us a few new grounds to go to (we're not all 40+ on here) and has been good for what it is, but it could've been so much more. Bournemouth away and Newcastle away we should've come back with 6 points from. Them and not winning against Burnley and Sheff U at home is what's done us.
Despite the above paragraph I haven't given up hope, but we need a massive improvement from players that look knackered.
Re: Post match thoughts
Posted by SE1 Hatter on 28/4/2024, 0:31:21, in reply to "Post match thoughts"
I think it is all the fault of Dr Fauci and the Chinese, if only they hadn’t had Kennedy killed then Nathan wouldn’t have been tempted by Stoke and measles wouldn’t be such a problem and the weather wouldn’t be so sh1tty and VAR would be much more effective and …
I will guess that we will probably never know what happened in January...I would have expected the staff that know a lot more about football, transfers and everything else than me and you would have seen we were light in a couple of areas and I would have expected them to do something about it, for whatever reason it did not happen...
I do think because most of the Premier League teams are absolutely loaded, huge backers, plenty of cash to throw away that there are prices and salaries of players to match...even then there is no guarantee it would work or be successful...
Just to compete you have to be prepared to lose a lot in order to gain, its a huge huge gamble and probably just a bridge too far for our club to take...too much of a gamble...to be honest it still amazes me how well we have done when you start to compare squad costs and salaries with other teams in this league, even previously in the championship...so no, I dont see it as poor at all, its all pretty sensible and sound...
Thing is there are plenty of clubs out there who have chased the dream and ultimately failed, and failed immensely...There will be more that will do the same too...so in a way Im not bothered if we do get relegated, its not like I havent seen it happen before and the Premiership is pretty crap anyhow...
Yeh we probably should have could have in a few games...and its easy after the game to analyse and say what if we did this or that or the other without ever knowing what the outcome would have been...
Posted by Observer on 27/4/2024, 20:27:38, in reply to "Coventry"
Nothing if not predictable is it?
Re: Coventry
Posted by Wingnut on 27/4/2024, 20:36:47, in reply to "Re: Coventry"
I feel a bit sorry for them tbh...to spend their lives doing stuff like this...things must be really bad for them if this is the only way they can feel some sort of accomplishment in their lives...
Friday night beneath the lights...nothing better...
Bournemouth away and Newcastle away we should've come back with 6 points from. Them and not winning against Burnley and Sheff U at home is what's done us
Yep. Decent post on the whole. We've been the worst team in the league since we lost at home to Sheff United. Just winning one of those games would have made everything so much healthier.
However, the only thing I probs disagree with, it's really easy to say we should have signed someone. Maybe there was someone available, but the board felt they weren't any better than what we have, would have been over priced, or could get better value in the summer.
Just buying someone doesn't always work out. Burnley spent about £100m more than us last summer and they're still below us. (Although I probably fancy them to stay up over us right now)
It's really easy to just assume signing someone in January would have helped this turn out any different than it has. I mean, the one player we did sign hasn't been overly impressive. And many people are now saying we should be playing the player we already had instead of him!
I get that, around the transfers, it's a risk. Waiting til the summer to get better value doesn't seem smart when that signing could potentially keep us up.
We had since the first Bournemouth game to plan a Lockyer replacement as it was obvious even to those without medical knowledge he wouldn't be back this season. That's our best (at the time) CB and captain, and we didn't think it worth replacing him?
Agree on Burnley, I think they finish above us.
Why are you saying “maybe someone was available”
Posted by Lack of scrutiny spotter on 27/4/2024, 19:41:57, in reply to "Re: Post match thoughts"
If you need to recruit to go out and pay what is required.
Recruiting isn’t about who is available it’s about who you want to improve your team.
Particularly in this division.
The signings of Drameh and Nakamba helped us finish 3rd last season and won us the playoffs.
This time round we signed Hashi and gave away Giles.
Incredible that only Doctor Ince and me are questioning the logic of that.
Re: Why are you saying “maybe someone was available”
What is the going price of a top flight centre back these days who would instantly make a difference, Cuba? Spurs paid £25m for some Romanian chap from Italy.
The transfer window in January was subdued for every Premier league club.
I'm all for questioning the logic of whether not signing someone was the right deal. But you make it sound like the club didn't even try. Which I'm fairly certain isn't the case. You also don't want your club being held over the barrel paying over the odds for someone not worth it.
Re: Why are you saying “maybe someone was available”
Agree. Look at Huddersfield. They’re about to drop to tier 3, but had a couple of years in the premier league not so long ago chasing the dream. It’s all about perspective. In the last 12 years we’ve had nothing but ups, so suck it up and let those that got us here carry on doing the right thing.
It was the lack of urgency at 2 nil that pissed me off most tbh. Summed up by the Sunday league shit between Kaminski and Lokonga towards the end. Wolves were flying in with the tackles, breaking at speed. We had too many players happy to let the game pass them by. We're going down with a whimper.
Perhaps they are just better players more used to what's required over a season and better equipped to do it. I am still pleased we are still in with a shout with a few games left, I didnt expect that. That doesn't mean to say I dont still feel down when we lose though, that should be a given. To survive the first year in this division you to spend a lot of money wisely, get lucky with injuries and try to win your mini division within the division. We don't have a lot of money to do that and have been unlucky with injuries. Maybe in an ideal world one of the management team should have extensive Premier League experience. Its the toughest league in the world and its looking like we will just fall short, experience gained and go again next season. For me its not been a bad effort.
Re: Post match thoughts
Posted by Lack of scrutiny spotter on 27/4/2024, 19:43:47, in reply to "Re: Post match thoughts"
It’s been a pretty dreadful effort since being 2-4 up at Newcastle.
To be fair Garth nailed it that time and have been proved right.
That attempt to have Mengi or whoever takes the short goal kick to Kaminski who then under pressure kicked it out was embarrassing. We've got two big blokes up top, losing 2 1 and we try that.
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 27/4/2024, 19:19:04, in reply to "Post match thoughts"
Money should have been spent in January. RE has no plan b and has been naive is his selection/tactics. New stadium is nearly ready and will be a magnificent 15k capacity.
Which means we'd have had a back line of Osho, Burke, Andersen, Mengi and Bell, with Bell able to go left wing if needed. Except Andersen never came back and Bell, after playing his 80th game of the calendar year, with an injury, got an even worse injury. Cuba gets stuck but this was entirely foreseeable and avoidable
Was it really disastrous though insofar that we have spent within our means? Also, I can remember feeling absolutely underwhelmed in January 2023 when we signed Drameh, Taylor and Nakamba but it worked out well in the short and long term hopefully (Taylor).
Re: Post match thoughts
Posted by Lack of scrutiny spotter on 27/4/2024, 19:12:57, in reply to "Re: Post match thoughts"
Within our means? It’s all undisclosed so we have no idea whether we are or not.
We spent £5m on Giles and have him away.
Sensible for a club trying to survive?
Perhaps not doing that would have kept us up and we would be significantly better off.
House…..
Posted by Lack of scrutiny spotter on 27/4/2024, 19:16:35, in reply to "Re: Post match thoughts"
I am not paid to recruit players.
Gary Sweet is.
Re: House…..
Posted by Observer on 27/4/2024, 19:23:38, in reply to "House….."
Thank fuck for that
We’d have Dion Pieriera up front - no wonder you never offer anything constructive
House again
Posted by Lack of scrutiny spotter on 27/4/2024, 19:26:40, in reply to "Re: House….."
Yes bringing Dion into the conversation will fix it.
Deflect deflect deflect.
As Doctor Ince said, this was all utterly and very sadly predictable.
Re: House again
Posted by Observer on 27/4/2024, 19:28:28, in reply to "House again "
Still, look on the bright side Cubes, at least your favourite franchise might get to Wembley. Happy days 😁
Another house FFS
Posted by Lack of scrutiny spotter on 27/4/2024, 19:36:31, in reply to "Re: House again "
Grow up.
Clearly I am not a Luton fan if I have an opinion.
What is wrong with having a negative view?
Re: Another house FFS
Posted by HH on 27/4/2024, 19:38:59, in reply to "Another house FFS"
Because it's the same old shit under yet another new name.
And now your latest posting name makes you sound like you're trying to insinuate you're only shouted down because people don't like scrutiny, rather than the fact you're a tiresome old bore who has said the same old shit time and time again on this board.
Who says we're happy? I think we've blown an opportunity to stay up.
But I think we had the players to get a result from the games we've fucked up in and I don't think signing anyone for any price in January would have the silver bullet you seem to think it would have been.
It's pathetic to call it shambolic. The very fact we're here, and still in with a chance, considering the budgets etc is far from shambolic. It's just unnecessary hyperbolic language which makes you look hysterical.
Has Hashioka, a January signing, made us any better? As harsh as it is, I would say no. So using him as an example, why do you think any other January signing would have been different?
As I said in my post, if Cuba or I knew who was available we'd be getting a premier league scouting wage. We have an entire department whose job it is to know this
Maybe we did enquire, maybe clubs didnt want to release them, maybe they earn more at those clubs. How many centre backs do you think we should have signed on? How do you legislate for injuries outside the transfer window, Bell, Burke, Mads, Osho, Potts on his return, Mengi. Add Kabori as he could be makeshift centre back.
Re: Post match thoughts
Posted by Lack of scrutiny spotter on 27/4/2024, 20:34:27, in reply to "Re: Post match thoughts"
Maybe they earn more…….
In a nutshell that is exactly why.
So why tell fans we would end the month stronger.
We knew they all earned more and were trying to do it on the cheap.
Lack of focus on European league has cost us too.
Hashi was playing in a poor Belgium league for a weak team.
Hashi may or may not turn out to be a good player. Was he bought for now to walk straight into the most competitive league in the world, I doubt that. Was he bought to replace Kabori next season, quite possibly, judge after a pre season in a lower division, he may develope. It's not a rarity that a transfer doesn't work out.
"would be stronger by the end of the month" maybe that was the intention but just couldn't get it done.Why would you take a statement so literal.
I don't think Kabore was considered as a CB until it was absolutely needs must.
He looked ok defending as a CB as he likes attacking to be done in front of him, he struggles with that far post run wingers do, which as an issue as he's an rwb
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