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    Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

    Posted by The Listener on 16/4/2024, 13:42:53

    Just heard on a very well known national sports station that they heard from an "expert" that Everton and Forests appeals are a "free hit " and an the "expert" also said to the station that both Forest and Everton will get one point back from their deductions. Sounds very corrupt to me

      Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

      Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 16/4/2024, 16:37:47, in reply to "Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

      Given the absurdly weak punishment given to Forest, I fully expected Everton to only be deducted one point the other week and was surprised at 2. I would expect them to get one back on appeal.

      Absolute circus.

      Forest... less sure. I think they should have considered themselves very lucky already and can't see why they would get any success on appeal.

        Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

        Posted by Godders on 16/4/2024, 17:30:40, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

        As things currently stand 1 point back to forest means very little. They are already a point and a better goal difference better off than so we still need a win to catch them. Returning one point back will not change that. The caveat to this is that obviously we want them both absolutely slaughtered with increased points deductions for frivolous appeal.

          Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

          Posted by Swansea Hatter on 16/4/2024, 19:10:35, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

          So you wouldn’t have been happy with a point at City??

          You really do talk some absolute rubbish sometimes!

            Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

            Posted by The Outsider on 16/4/2024, 17:48:16, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

            As things stand, if they draw this weekend and we win, we are above them.

            Give them a point back and the same results mean that they are above us.

            Hardly "very little".

        Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

        Posted by MG on 16/4/2024, 13:49:34, in reply to "Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

        Jackanory.

          Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

          Posted by Ches Fordroad on 16/4/2024, 13:48:56, in reply to "Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

          Said the other day there appears to be no danger of them losing anything other than costs from appealing so it's a no-brainer.

          Doesn't seem unreasonable to think either that the appeal panel will desperately want to be seen to having given them a fair hearing and give them something back. Particularly if it makes the difference between them being relegated as a result of points deductions and not.

          No doubt they'll also be thinking that if the appeals aren't upheld the clubs may well look to pursue further legal action - that fat cunt at Forest certainly looks the type to do so if he doesn't get his own way.

            Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

            Posted by Inquisitive Hat on 16/4/2024, 14:39:51, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

            What do you do at Forest then?

              Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

              Posted by MG on 16/4/2024, 13:50:53, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

              They should take away an extra point from both of them to deter others from appealing by default.

                Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

                Posted by Ches Fordroad on 16/4/2024, 13:53:17, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

                What they should do and what they will do are, I suspect, miles apart

                  Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

                  Posted by ELH on 16/4/2024, 14:01:59, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

                  Agreed, there's next to no chance the deductions will be increased.

                  I struggle to see why Forest would get any reduction. Possibly they will argue more that being in the Championship for 2 of the seasons should be a reason why the excess losses are considered less serious. But the first commission dealt with that point and the non-mitigated 6 points deduction they got seems lenient in comparison to Everton.

                  I suspect Everton will argue that 1 point reduction for the early plea and loss of Russian sponsorship combined was insufficient. Maybe also argue that they deserve some credit for cooperation.

                    Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

                    Posted by Ches Fordroad on 16/4/2024, 14:12:48, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

                    I very much doubt if there's any real grounds for appeal other than "we didn't like the result" which, on the face of it, should see them laughed off.

                    But I reckon these clowns will fall for any old sob story; let it never be forgotten it was an "independent" commission that fell for pervy Pete's promises of football frenzy so I find it difficult to have any faith in them getting it right, or even close.

                      Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

                      Posted by ELH on 16/4/2024, 14:25:19, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

                      Yeah I think that's a real risk. The last few commissions though have at least been fairly consistent with each other so I'd hope that limits the scope for any reduction. But nothing would surprise me (apart from them increasing the penalty of course)

                      Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

                      Posted by The Outsider on 16/4/2024, 14:10:17, in reply to "Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

                      If Forest get relegated, presumably they will be arguing that it is only fair that they are limited to three years' losses at Championship limits - after all, it's only fair that they are competing on a level playing field with the other clubs in that division

                Re: Forest and Everton deductions/appeal

                Posted by TheTruth on 16/4/2024, 13:44:49, in reply to "Forest and Everton deductions/appeal"

                Best lie this year!

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