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    Leicester City's points deduction

    Posted by Ltfc39 on 12/4/2024, 17:43:39

    Oh what a mess this is.

    It's a joke that such deductions don't flow through the leagues. So you can cheat so badly you get relegated and yet have no jurisdiction over it.

    https://www.efl.com/news/2024/april/12/efl-statement--leicester-city/


      Re: Leicester City's points deduction

      Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 18:31:09, in reply to "Leicester City's points deduction"

      Why don't the EFL (and the Prem for that matter) just threaten to take the 'golden share' away from these clubs if they threaten the league with legal action? Football is just a bunch of members clubs. Threaten withdrawal of membership

      After all, they've got previous for threatening a club in the past with that

      Football's a mess. The result of years of loose (or non-existent) rules and token efforts at regulation. All this recent activity feels like the sport is attempting to show it CAN regulate itself - as it is fearful of the new regulator - but it's too little too late

      However, those who fear a strong regulator, shouldn't be concerned as I'm not sure that what's coming will be strong enough

        Re: Leicester City's points deduction

        Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 19:35:07, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

        "Why don't the EFL (and the Prem for that matter) just threaten to take the 'golden share' away from these clubs if they threaten the league with legal action? Football is just a bunch of members clubs. Threaten withdrawal of membership"

        This is what happens when someone like Putin is on the scene, everybody wants to be an autocrat and stamp over everybody else's rights..

          Re: Leicester City's points deduction

          Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 20:00:44, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

          Good grief

          You're losing it pal. Twat

            Re: Leicester City's points deduction

            Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 20:12:34, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

            Me losing it? You're the one proposing that people should be penalised for seeking legal redress!

              Re: Leicester City's points deduction

              Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 20:15:19, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

              Comparing Putin to football governance and not adhering to the rules of a members club. Fucking hell

              Didn't used to much mind your posts but you actually come across as a bit of a wanker

              But I'm sure you're a nice guy in real life so I'll let it lie

                Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 20:20:32, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                I was comparing Putin to people like you spouting nonsense like that!

                There are about 4 people who use this posting name, good luck with sorting the wheat from the chaff.

                  Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                  Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 20:24:06, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                  Comparing Putin to me saying something you disagree with about football governance and members not adhering to the rules of a members club. Fucking hell

                  There needs to be the existence of wheat to sort from the chaff

                    Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                    Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 21:47:01, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                    Just an aside about the troll element. There are a handful of regular posters who are being led round by their noses on a nearly daily basis by the trolls. You are flirting with joining that club from what I've seen recently.

                    You're better than that.

                      Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                      Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 20:29:55, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                      Let me put what you are proposing in a different way.

                      Say you wanted to take the government to court for something, anything. You would be ok with them taking your passport away for threatening legal action against them?

                        Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                        Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 20:37:23, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                        Classic apples and bananas comparison that. Ridiculous

                        You're talking about the law

                        I'm talking about (and I don't know why I have to mention this for a THIRD time) members of a members club not adhering to the rules of that members club. Rules that all members have already had a say in drawing up and accepting

                          Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                          Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 20:59:42, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                          No, I'm talking about threatening law, as you were.

                          I think you must have completely misunderstood the statement from the EFL today, the point of this thread. Leicester have adhered to the EFL member rules and didn't think the EFL were adhering to the rules so they sought an injunction to prevent any points deduction from the PL being imposed on them in the EFL.

                          A legal injunction might have been a bit excessive in the first instance but it forced the EFL to accept that it is not in their rules to impose penalties from a different jurisdiction as such.

                            Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                            Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 21:15:18, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                            Yes, I agree that one members club shouldn't be running the rule over another members club and that the EFL were correct to back down. That's why, of course, all 4 divisions should be under the one members club but that's another issue

                            And, despite what I said being an extreme solution, I also think that if there is a dispute between a member and a governing body of a members club then there should be recourse. CAS is the usual place for sport for example. Something that was denied us, of course

                            And, yes, I did understand the statement thanks

                            All that doesn't minimise the fact you were comparing Putin to fucking football and to an opinion you didn't agree with

                            And it's fine to disagree with me by the way. It's just that you had to be such an utter dick about it

                              Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                              Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 21:22:09, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                              I hoped we might pull back from the draconian cliff.

                              For the second time I wasn't comparing Putin to anything else other than you.

                              Thanks.

                                Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                                Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 21:23:28, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                                Comparing Putin to me?

                                Fucking hell. Get a grip, man

                    Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                    Posted by Ches Fordroad on 12/4/2024, 20:16:57, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                    Only a bit of a wanker?

                      Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                      Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/4/2024, 20:25:54, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                      You're at your best when you stick to Stevenage and Wycombe Ches.

                        Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                        Posted by WOW on 13/4/2024, 10:02:52, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                        Sendero Loser acting like, sounding like, being like a complete cock womble alert! Do you have any idea how moronic you come across?

                          Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                          Posted by Ches Fordroad on 12/4/2024, 20:33:17, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                          You're at your best when you're not on here at all

                          Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                          Posted by Music Critic on 12/4/2024, 20:18:05, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                          I try and give people the benefit of the doubt

                Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                Posted by Ltfc39 on 12/4/2024, 18:48:42, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                You Sir have nailed it.

                Nothing will be strong enough. Clubs will always try and will circumvent any rules that are put in place by themselves. And the government will not want the regulator to overdo it's remit.

                  Re: Leicester City's points deduction

                  Posted by Ches Fordroad on 12/4/2024, 20:20:12, in reply to "Re: Leicester City's points deduction"

                  Exactly.

                  And it won't change now, because there'll always be oily fuckers like Nick De Marco around to make money from advising clubs to go outside any competition rules.

                  It won't be long before a match result is challenged in court.

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