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    GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

    Posted by Nick NLPBH on 10/4/2024, 20:38:01

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    canwecantwe
    9 HRS AGO
    What a disgusting man.



    blueyonder74
    7 HRS AGO
    This man is running a Prem club, and can't see the quasi-legal manner in which these results were handed down? Points deductions for financial errors? punishing a squad, when it was the owner's breaches?This is why we can't get rid of meglomaniacs like Masters and fools like Sweet who support him.

    MJonker
    7 HRS AGO
    Went in administration, refused to pay debts, guilty of 15 different charges. Yes, a lesser crime clearly! I think Luton have done well this season, but if they can't finish above us with an 8 point headstart (because overspends equivalent of purchasing 1 player, or Delli Allis wages!), then you have little grounds for complaint

    stoicprinciples
    4 HRS AGO
    luton dident even have a ground ready for the prem , is he for real , ? I have no prob they are allowed to move stuff but pot kettle black , .

    Kevconno
    4 HRS AGO
    This guy from Luton is only worried about themselves,I can understand that, clutching at straws, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.



    chrisboxer
    2 HRS AGO
    Mr Sweet is only making noise because his team are not good enough to stay in the Premier league but the leagues incompetence may give them a chance to stay up by taking points off better clubs, he should wind his neck in and shut up

    louis70
    6 HRS AGO
    They went into administration, a much worse offence.

      Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

      Posted by Realist on 11/4/2024, 7:29:42, in reply to "GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

      3 administrations in 10 years, illegal payments and not paying Foley’s mum for the sarnies at the training container.
      Luton Town are the original cheating bastards. 30 points was not enough imo.

        Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

        Posted by Ches Fordroad on 11/4/2024, 8:43:21, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

        Forged bank letters, financed by tax-dodging and money-laundering.

        Udinese and their associated franchises are the original cheating bastards. 300 points wouldn't be enough imo.

          Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

          Posted by J in C on 11/4/2024, 7:48:14, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

          But we got it sorted and are now in a division above you

          Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

          Posted by Number 9 on 10/4/2024, 23:35:12, in reply to "GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

          Bonus points for winding them up. He is absolutely correct in saying what he did. The punishment must be greater than the benefit received by spending more than permitted. Simple.

            Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

            Posted by MG on 10/4/2024, 23:01:28, in reply to "GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

            They really don't seem to understand anything about what happened to us, not surprising why would they?

            They also don't seem to have cottoned on to what's so bad about what they are doing. I suspect a few of them might be in for a shock when they realise just what a mess they are in.

              Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

              Posted by Observer on 10/4/2024, 22:45:40, in reply to "GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

              What’s the chances Borino will be on there apologising on behalf of the majority of Luton supporters

                Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                Posted by Toddingtonsteve on 10/4/2024, 21:31:19, in reply to "GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                While I agree with his comments, coming from him they are I believe ill judged, should just have said “follow process, independent panel etc” him saying this won’t change anything as far as points deductions are concerned

                  Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                  Posted by Herts Hatter on 10/4/2024, 21:57:54, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                  Good comment - my thoughts exactly. No real need to say that stuff - just creates a bit of needle toward us when we don't need it

                    Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                    Posted by Nick NBH on 10/4/2024, 21:56:22, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                    Is it just me or did he seem to hint at possible legal action if we went down. I don`t think we would. Saw some sports lawyers saying that if us or Brentford went down we would have a good case though. Possibly headlines. For what its worth I don`t agree with taking clubs to court over overspending etc - we aren't steve gibson. But the fact the whole process is so unclear does make it a possibility. And the premier league have themselves to blame for that.

                    Put in a clear framework , and guidelines for sanctions and there is no issue.

                    You can lose x amount over 3 years
                    Ford every x% over that you will be deducted a point. That way everyone knows where they stand

                      Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                      Posted by m on 10/4/2024, 22:15:01, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                      they could take legal action against the league possibly. that's what the story hinted at
                      I doubt they would. Not sure they have the appetite to or the desire to spend the money

                    Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                    Posted by KS on 10/4/2024, 21:29:16, in reply to "GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                    Hardly surprising is it ?

                      Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                      Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 10/4/2024, 20:43:24, in reply to "GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                      "They went into administration, a much worse offence"

                      He's not wrong.

                        Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                        Posted by crumpsall on 10/4/2024, 21:44:55, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                        Our administration and minor financial misdemeanour were punished by deductions totalling 40 points, a fine and no right of appeal. Were you not around at the time, or simply incapable of seeing the difference of scale?

                        And that's just for starters re their uninformed comments

                          Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                          Posted by Music Critic on 10/4/2024, 21:08:12, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                          I know you enjoy being a contrarian but...

                          Luton didn't go into admin under its current ownership

                          Lots of point-missing by those Everton fans - why might it be we're worse than them even with an 8-point advantage? Could it be because they cheated and assembled a squad spending money they weren't supposed to

                          Let's face it, Everton have been stinking out the Prem for years. Dull, awful football and have been circling the drain for years. About time they were flushed away

                            Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                            Posted by Nick NBH on 10/4/2024, 21:16:23, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                            They will blame the loss on
                            a)Ground building costs
                            b)Loss of revenue from companies sanctioned for russian connections.

                            Of course they also spent 25 million (more than our squad) on a striker from the club that feeds w*tford in the summer. His goal return this season in the same as jordan clark, less than ogbene and chong

                              Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                              Posted by Ramridge Raider on 10/4/2024, 21:27:55, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                              Your point b) They received well above market value sponsorship deals from companies associated with Russian Oligarchs. The reason they couldn't find replacement sponsors willing to pay the same amount is pretty obvious.

                              Where is the self-awareness around that point or even the fact they were bankrolled by Russian money.

                              Furthermore, they got a point back from the Commision because they couldn't find a sponsor willing to pay the ridiculous amounts that the Russians fronted. Can't figure that one out!?.

                              They have lucked out massively.

                                Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                Posted by Nick NBH on 10/4/2024, 21:48:47, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                I wasn't excusing them in the slightest. They weren`t the only club being bankrolled by russian oligarch money. Same as many clubs are being bankrolled by dubious arab money. It is of course morally dubious, but the PL didn`t not allow it. Wider issue. Shouldn`t excuse them though.

                                The fact that they were fucked financially and still splashed out 25 million on a misfiring striker (not sure how much else they spent) in the summer should have been something looked at as well.

                                Of course the line will be if clubs cant spend "modest" transfer fees (and its relatively modest tbf compared to some) then in impacts the competitiveness of the league. Not that everton were going to do much else but trouble the relegation places

                                  Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                  Posted by Ramridge Raider on 10/4/2024, 22:00:34, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                  No, I know you weren't excusing them. I was just expanding on your point, which I agree with.

                                  Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                  Posted by Music Critic on 10/4/2024, 21:33:32, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                  Yep

                                  Everyone else's fault that they're run appallingly of course

                                  The comment about our stadium not being ready - what the fuck has that got to do with anything related to their cheating? Weird

                                    Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                    Posted by Ramridge Raider on 10/4/2024, 21:45:10, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                    I really wouldn't want to swap places with Everton right now, even if they do stay up. We have one of the best run football clubs in the whole league, they are a complete shambles and only likely to get worse.

                                      Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                      Posted by Music Critic on 10/4/2024, 21:52:32, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                      Agreed

                                      It must have been/be a miserable football existence being an Everton fan these last 10 years (even more than that perhaps)

                                        Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                        Posted by Nick NBH on 10/4/2024, 21:59:37, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                        In that 10 years we have
                                        -won the conference
                                        -Got knocked out of league 2 play offs due to a last kick og
                                        -Got promoted in 2nd place
                                        -Stormed league 1
                                        Stayed up in the championship on the last 10
                                        -Lost to a late goal in a championship play off semi final
                                        -Won the play offs and got promoted to the premier league
                                        -Beaten our local rivals twice

                                        I prefer our last 10 years to theirs which reads "avoided relegation" . A lot.

                                          Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                          Posted by Wow on 11/4/2024, 0:14:39, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                          What a backward trio. Yeah, Everton have had an awful time of it this past 10 years. Utter bellends. The fact you agree with each other makes it even more ridiculous.

                                Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                Posted by Music Critic on 10/4/2024, 21:21:32, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                They can blame it all on that as much as they like but infrastructure costs don't come into FFP/PSR. That they're claiming some operational/playing-side costs should be related to the stadium is an utter piss take

                                Their club is an utter basket case and it's laughable that they are harking back to events of 16-17 years ago. Still, the past is all that football club has

                                I'd have probably been a bit more diplomatic but GS has spiced up the 3rd May even more. It would be fantastic to beat them that night and help to, ultimately, relegate them. Sending Forest down would be a great consolation prize

                                  Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                  Posted by Nick NBH on 10/4/2024, 21:51:08, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                  In limited fairness to them..GS did reference our points deduction i think, so they may be entitled to hark back to the same.

                                  So on that note..no one gave a fuck when we got 30. some clubs welcomed it as it kept them up. so fuckit

                                    Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                    Posted by Music Critic on 10/4/2024, 21:58:58, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                    They aren't really entitled to hark back when they (judging by those comments) have not got the foggiest idea of the detail of our 2007-08 period.

                                    Don't forget we got 40 taken off not 30. I asked on here yesterday, is what we did more than 4 times worse than what they have done and continue to do? Of course not

                                    And, as you say, no one gave a flying fuck about us

                            Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                            Posted by Jammy on 10/4/2024, 21:05:02, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                            You twat

                              Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                              Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 10/4/2024, 21:01:53, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                              Maybe not but he should wind his neck in as Everton may well be in administration soon.

                                Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                Posted by Bankrupt on Monday lol on 10/4/2024, 20:53:19, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."


                                "Goin tits up on Monday, neverton ! Lol"

                                  Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                  Posted by m on 10/4/2024, 20:52:42, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                  Going into admin is far worse. you're stiffing smaller businesses who supply you for starters.
                                  However the people commenting. They are only doing what football fans do these days.

                                    Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                    Posted by Music Critic on 10/4/2024, 21:13:53, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                    Didn't we offer about 90% of what was owed to creditors when exiting admin? But HMRC decided to be total arseholes about it and, therefore, a CVA couldn't be agreed

                                    Funny that HMRC accepted 25p in the pound from Derby to enable them to exit without further punishment

                                      Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                      Posted by Nick NBH on 10/4/2024, 21:06:48, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                      Can`t quite remember the exact details but think the majority creditor was HMRC..the only one not to agree the CVA - and therefore the reason we got the additional 20 points added to the 10 for going into admin/ Added to the 10 from the FA for rule breaches 2020 had flagged to their attention.

                                      Part of the conditions for the -20 and return of the golden share was no appeals, and creditors had to be paid as agreed (2020 had structured a repayment based on how many points we got deducted). Oh and a 500k fine as well. Wonder what that woudl equate to if inflated to premier league standards and age adjusted?

                                        Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                        Posted by MG on 10/4/2024, 22:59:44, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                        Yes, it wasn't just the points, people forget that.

                                        The fact that they delayed it so long so that we couldn't sign any players until the day before the season started must have impacted us massively too.

                                          Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                          Posted by Caught Jester on 11/4/2024, 4:23:28, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                          And, from memory, fees in the region of £1.5m to Guilfoyle and his chums. It dragged on for fucking months remember.

                                            Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                            Posted by Nick NBH on 10/4/2024, 23:59:38, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                            To be fair I think we had them there ready to sign as they ahd all been in pre season. Still its a hell of a sales pitch "hi do you want to sign for us? we can offer big crowds? ambition? or we wonr be able to sign you if we are in a position to till last minute? oh we start on -30? and if we get to screwed you may be out on a limb"

                                          Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy...

                                          Posted by Davo on 10/4/2024, 21:02:16, in reply to "Re: GS comments..Blue bindippers not happy..."

                                          Shame it ain't the red gobshites instead..

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