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    Our points deductions

    Posted by Non-League Yaya Toure on 8/4/2024, 15:01:01

    Can someone remind me how many deducted points we got and for what?

    -10 for administration
    was it another -10 for payment to agents from the wrong account or -20?

    No appeal possibility

      Re: Our points deductions

      Posted by Cheating Hatters on 9/4/2024, 9:08:26, in reply to "Our points deductions"

      Basically it was for cheating and the punishment should have been -50 points. Hope this helps.

        Re: Our points deductions

        Posted by Trft on 8/4/2024, 15:10:42, in reply to "Our points deductions"

        To my mind:

        30 because they thought we were cnuts.

        Re: Our points deductions

        Posted by Ches Fordroad on 8/4/2024, 15:08:16, in reply to "Our points deductions"

        -20 for the admin because it was the third, handily overlooking that one of them had been done to get rid of Gurney. Which the FA and FL sure as shit weren't going to do.

          Re: Our points deductions

          Posted by Cheating Hatters on 9/4/2024, 9:09:55, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

          Cheating is cheating.

            Re: Our points deductions

            Posted by Ches Fordroad on 9/4/2024, 11:26:07, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

            Just wait to see what happens to Udinese when Pozzo's crimes come to light.

            As you say "cheating is cheating"

          Re: Our points deductions

          Posted by Hatsworth on 8/4/2024, 15:06:50, in reply to "Our points deductions"

          My recollection is:

          -10 for into administration
          -20 for out of administration
          -10 for payments (of about 150k, including a the laying of a patio in an agents back garden)

          The first -10 relegated us from league 1. The next -30 the season after from league 2. Won the JPT though.

            Re: Our points deductions

            Posted by ELH on 8/4/2024, 15:54:21, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

            We would have been relegated from League 1 even if we weren't deducted the first 10 points.

              Re: Our points deductions

              Posted by Herve Baquet on 8/4/2024, 17:37:27, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

              True. The embargo and having to sell Edwards and Coyne, plus sending that Polish lad back from his loan is what did more damage.

              Re: Our points deductions

              Posted by EastEnder on 8/4/2024, 15:22:12, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

              The 20 was for out of admin without a CVA.

              But at that point HMRC were objecting to all football club CVA's, so we were told even if we paid 100 per cent of the debt, they would still object.

                Re: Our points deductions

                Posted by Sandgrounder on 8/4/2024, 15:29:00, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

                Yep: https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2008/jul/11/lutontown.leaguetwofootball

                The 20 points was due to a combination of exiting without a CVA (basically impossible to agree a CVA at the time) and the third administration.

                We appealed (and lost) the 10 point deduction but had to waive our right of appeal on the 20 points as a condition of remaining members of the football league.

                  Re: Our points deductions

                  Posted by EastEnder on 8/4/2024, 15:31:41, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

                  Also ignored that one of admins was basically essential in order to stop Gurney shutting the club down1

                  And 1st one was just a spat between Kohler & Bassett and Cliff put the club into admin to get rid of Kohler.




                Re: Our points deductions

                Posted by RADSB on 8/4/2024, 15:13:37, in reply to "Re: Our points deductions"

                Meeting was pre planned and outcome railroaded through with our mitigation ignored. Threatened with extinction if we appealed. IIRC we were the first and only club to be effectively fined 100k to pay certain debts of the previous shysters regime.

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