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Alan Campbell
Posted by Frank N Stein on 14/3/2024, 0:53:20
1st time this season i actually think we made a mistake letting Campbell go out on loan.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Observer on 14/3/2024, 8:33:57, in reply to "Alan Campbell"
Yeah, a bloke that can’t get on the bench at Millwall would undoubtedly be a match winner for a PL team
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Interested on 14/3/2024, 11:07:10, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Doesn't work like that.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by bbb on 14/3/2024, 1:00:35, in reply to "Alan Campbell"
Ffs🤣🤣🤣 I loved watching the bloke in a luton shirt but he wouldn't have been the answer tonight. The squad we've built seems more about copying the Brentford thing of developing them and them being young enough to sell on at profit than it does about being competitive in the short term. The finance for the ground was already in place we're told so the lack of investment in the first team squad is questionable. Not that spunking money is always the answer but perhaps we should have been a little more adventurous.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Cuba on 14/3/2024, 1:07:12, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
I wouldn’t want adventurous, I’d say we just wanted some sound judgement on plugging the gaps.
I have said enough recently and after that and the drive back I can’t really face an argument.
Quite how we didn’t replace Locks will be looked back as a fundamental mistake.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Seriously on 14/3/2024, 7:56:41, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
If you don't think Anderson, Osho, Bell, Burke and Mengi are enough centre half's, how many did you want?
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Hippo on 14/3/2024, 1:28:22, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Totally agree with Cuba about Lockyer, and it’s not hindsight as I also said this all through January.
We lost our captain and last season’s best player, and didn’t replace him. I personally don’t think that’s good enough. Before all the Gary Sweet and recruitment team fans pile in, it’s just my opinion and I think supporters that travel up and down the country like myself are entitled to that.
I know there is of course no guarantee a new signing would’ve worked out, but I’d sure like to have seen a player given the chance. And we still have that player as an asset, even if we did go down, so it’s not like pouring money down the drain.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Bicester Hat on 14/3/2024, 8:03:41, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
The problem seems to be a lack of protection from midfield to the back three. The loss of Sambi has been huge but it seems the Rob doesn't trust Pelly to fill that role.
Assuming of course he comes in and plays well which often doesn't work out at all with January signings.
Assuming of course he doesn't pick up an injury as well.
Then, the money is simply wasted.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Cuba on 14/3/2024, 1:42:17, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
We can never win in your scenario.
Just perhaps it would have worked and we uncovered a gem.
We didn’t give ourselves a chance.
Perhaps Abbey was that player but when he didn’t fancy us we just had no plan B.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by bbb on 14/3/2024, 1:13:01, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Over the recent months you've pretty much moaned about every position in the squad not being strengthened. That's where you lost your credibility. An old head at the back was the one that was needed most January and probably pre season IMO. I said that at the time. I don't pretend to know who was available though.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Hippo on 14/3/2024, 1:40:43, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Spot on bbb. We have been unlucky with midfield and forward players getting injured or having setbacks, and I’m sure we were happy enough with those positions when we exited the January window.
But as I said above, it’s not getting a centre-back in that really frustrates me, especially with nearly all the ones we have being injury prone.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Cuba on 14/3/2024, 1:27:04, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Why does it matter who was available?
We needed a leader, an experienced defender and we should have found one, whatever it took.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Jansel House on 14/3/2024, 7:33:32, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
😆😆😆😆😆😆 farking hell
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by bbb on 14/3/2024, 1:49:28, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Why does it matter who was available?
Erm, because if they weren't we couldn't sign them perhaps?!!
Ffs!!
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Cuba on 14/3/2024, 2:01:50, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Was James Bree available? Was Nathan Jones available? Was Jack Stacey available? Was Giles available? Will Ross Barkley be available? Will Eli be available? Will Menghi be available?
All under contract but left and/or will likely leave.
So why didn’t those rules apply for us as the buying club?
A Premier League club who can’t attract players, sorry I don’t buy that excuse. Our refusal to try and compete and pay a bit more is going to cost us.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by bbb on 14/3/2024, 2:15:50, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes What you on about now?
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Cuba on 14/3/2024, 2:25:14, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Simply that if you want a player you do what is required to get that player.
Look at the Championship and buy the best defender from clubs outside the top four.
Ballard or O’Nein would have been decent options.
If we think we can just survive on Free Transfers then that shows the lack of ambition you noted at the top of the thread.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by bbb on 14/3/2024, 9:29:51, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
It isn't a game of Championship Manager Gumbo. Signing whoever you want doesn't happen in real life.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 14/3/2024, 7:16:44, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Ballard will cost a Prem club at least £15 million at the end of the season. Sunderland would never have sold him in the window as they were still in contentention for play offs.
Most Sunderland fans are not sure that O'Nien is Championship quality let alone Prem standard.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Minibar on 14/3/2024, 2:11:20, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
How do you know those rules didn't apply to us?
How do you know we didn't talk to players in January but didn't want to pay the wages they demanded?
Our club do things in a different way to most, and they aren't going to break that just to keep you happy.
Once you start paying players more than you really want you lose that team spirit & togetherness that has served us so well over the last x years.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Cuba on 14/3/2024, 2:20:46, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
So if it doesn’t work the usual way we don’t have any Plan B?
That’s what you are effectively saying.
You can’t expect to sign top quality players on the cheap.
But by the same token you don’t stand a chance of staying up if you don’t buy top quality players.
Maybe the time has come to restructure a few things, the loyalty shown to Potts for example has been a total waste of money and time.
Something many suggested in June but were roundly criticised for not being loyal.
Re: Alan Campbell
Posted by Minibar on 14/3/2024, 2:35:38, in reply to "Re: Alan Campbell"
Plan B is stick with what you've got which without the current injuries is good enough to compete in the PL.
We were never going to sign top quality players, that isn't what we are about as a club....you may not like that but its true. We sign players with potential to become top quality players in the future.
We haven't had the best quality players for years, but have done ok....our squad on paper last season was not top 6.
I agree that the loyalty shown to some needs to be looked at, and i imagine that if we do stay up the likes of Potts, Berry & Pelly will be on their way as they are not good enough for the PL but the club decided they deserved a chance to prove themselves....again that is the way the club does things but yes there does have to be a point where you say thank you and move on.
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