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A ‘good’ season to go down?
Posted by Town planner on 6/3/2024, 12:16:35
If Leicester, Leeds and Southampton are the promoted teams it will be even tougher to stay up next season. All three are Premier League set ups with budgets to match, and with Sheff Utd and Burnley down there’ll be no weak links.
But going down I think we’d be promoted straight back up as the best-run and one of the best-finance clubs in the EFL, given the £50 million parachute money. We’d then be in a much better position to compete in the Premier League after a second promotion.
We’d probably lose a couple of players but come back up with a much stronger squad.
I can see Sheff Utd struggling next season and Burnley at best a play-off contender. Maybe whoever misses out this season (Ipswich?) will be challenging and likely Norwich, but all the ‘big’ clubs seem to have sh!t owners or financial problems, usually both.
Pointless speculation. If we stay up we'll deal with it, if we go down....we'll deal with it. Try to focus on the games ahead, that's all that matters.
I think the biggest issue will be who we lose if we go down, Barkley and lakonga would be all but certain to go, Mengi highly likely and then the likes of Alfie, osho, Ogbene, Kaminski and Eli will most likely get some lower prem interest, I’m sure most of those will stay! I’d say there’s a chance of a permanent for Kabore! If we can replace anyone who goes with a solid first teamer we won’t be too far away.
The point with lakonga is there would be a chance, albeit still slim, of him joining permanently if we stay up but no chance if we go down. As for kabore, if we do go down and try to play in a similar way to this season I’d say he’d be a brilliant signing but of course thats just my opinion.
But surely even better to stay up this season, get another season of premier league money and the 3rd year of parachute payments for staying in the premier league for 2 seasons. Fully agree it will be harder in some ways to stay up next year. But Everton could go into admin, there may be other deductions for PSR breaches we don’t currently know about and a non-recent premier league side could get promoted through the play offs and struggle. I’d expect us to be in and around the play offs next year if we go down, but no more than that.
Yeah fair comment, but I think think the Championship will be at its 'weakest' next season, so a return to the PL will be as nailed-on as it ever could be. The following season it would likely be stronger, based on who comes down next season.
And we won't need a second year of parachute money, let alone a third!
Given the choice I'd obviously rather stay up now, but every cloud and all that...
Harassing ...... oh for fuck's sake don't be such an utter fanny merchant.
As it happens I get the points he's making but don't necessarily agree. I do however think that next season would be more difficult for a number of reasons, not least the complacency and increased level of expectations; I'm sure the likes of yourself with your relentless positivity would be demanding nothing less than a top 6 finish.
As both the language and content are identical to many of your own posts, as you regularly recently appear within moments of each other and as you have frequently posted under multiple names on threads to appear to give your 'opinions' apparent support....it would seem a reasonable assumption.
You've been 'sussed' completely Cuba, time to find another club and message board for your dull, destructive trolling
You are as bad as Hunt twisting the facts to suit the story.
For what it matters I am a Luton fan, quite why I would be so bothered if I wasn’t doesn’t really add up. Unless I have been deep state undercover for 50 plus years.
Quite how I would be able be tell you about Raphael Meades debut, the near crush during the Brighton 1-4 FA Cup stuffing, the car Brian Swain drive and parked in Stanley Park. Jack Stacey’s last ‘appearance’ in a Luton shirt.
I could go on.
So don’t suggest otherwise, I am curious that’s all.
As Teacher said, “keep em peeled”, just seems some have forgotten that mantra.
It was Desperate Dan actually, and (like Teacher) he is and has been a long term comrade and friend in actively protecting the club from attack by the likes of Gurney, Pinkney, Jayten, Bushwood - and maybe you. As you would know if you'd been involved in the relevant groups.
Easy for you to trawl up a few 'facts/anecdotes' gleaned from various sources, everyone can do that if motivated enough, but your posts speak volumes about you and I don't trust you or them an inch.
I would have needed to be pretty good to have gained the knowledge you infer. How about what happened during the minutes silence during our last visit to Boothferry Park. Or who at the BBC “pulled rank” the day we won at Torquay in 2002? (And who on here coined that phrase).
Yes I was at the Vauxhall meeting, yes I was at the first 2020 meeting on Park Street. Yes I was outside the Hockey Stadium. I even chased “DAK II” down KR road before the plate change.
What I don’t get is why when DD and Teacher said keep em peeled it only refers to that point in time.
Why is a critical opinion not welcomed without you calling it sinister?
I don't believe anything you claim to be honest, but if you were outside the Hockey Stadium we will have a high level of mutual connections- and if you were part of all those actions surely part of the Trust or LL then? So make yourself known sometime perhaps, and you may gain some credibility.
Your point about keep 'em peeled makes no sense, that's what I'm doing now. Who was the third person behind that saying, by the way?
Purely a bit player, but as conscious now as ever of challenges and threats and perhaps even more committed to protecting the club. Thus casting a wary and well peeled eye over the damaging negativity, trolling and undermining that goes on here and across other channels. As are many others, of course, many more so than I.
Your questions always seem pretty loaded and laced with doubt about the honesty and integrity of the Board/Recruitment Team/Medical staff etc.
You obviously have a major beef. Rather than sly insinuations why not have the courage to lay out you beef, point by point. Here's your chance to prove you are not a troll.
As a person I am a challenger, I do this professionally and personally.
I demand honesty from everyone I deal with and employ, I can’t stand vagueness and ambiguity - I can’t help that it’s just me.
So when someone tells me something and it doesn’t come true then I think I am allowed to challenge that. And I do so.
So when it comes to football clearly there will always be uncertainty, I get that.
But if Edwards comes out and states something like “we will end the window stronger” and we don’t and then the CEO says “we fell short” I want to know why and how that came to pass, particularly as getting it right was so critical.
The point also around everything being “undisclosed” is red rag to me.
In terms of PC, we have been promised updates and progress since 2016, so come 2024 I think it’s fair to be able ask for more clarity on why there still isn’t clarity on dates.
So that is who I am, I am clearly a pain to most people but what I can’t tolerate is a blinkered view from some fans who don’t want to challenge the board, regardless.
But the board and RE don't work for you. Do you really think they will come out and disclose every detail of the transfer window just because you 'demand honesty'. If you've been following football for fifty years, surely you will know that it doesn't work that way. And if I need to explain why then you truly are niaive in the extreme.
Same as the ground. You seem to think GS has been dishonest because some of the Prem money has been spent on the ground. Surely you must have known there was a funding gap and promotion would plug that. Even fans from other clubs were aware. Seems really odd that this has suddenly become an issue for you.
Even when very educated and knowledgeable posters give you a very balanced explanation you choose not to listen and just return posting the same questions. Not sure what you want, a personal audience with GS?
With everything that the Board have done for this club, I personally have utmost trust in their decision making and actions and know they will always have the best interests of the club at heart. You seem to be diametrically opposed to this viewpoint and have no trust whatsoever.
I've said to you before, lighten up and enjoy the season. We've not had it so good for many years, so if you truly are a fan you might start focusing on the positives (of which there are many).
I'm relatively new here. Why does Cuba attract hostility? Having asked that, how does changing one's posting name and then posting exactly the same stuff, even in the same style hide you? All you're doing is winding up your persecutors to an even greater level of malice. If you really think you're correct, stick to your guns under one name; there's no shame in that, and however grim your opinion may be, you're showing that they are your truly held beliefs. If you're proved right you can have a public gloat. If not, just bite on the leather strap and take your punishment
Given the relentless abuse you suffer on here from pretty much everyone (apart from your various alter-egos), it really puzzles me why you bother sharing your warped opinions and ideas.
He is reminiscent of a really weird and creepy character who stalked/harassed on this board, and others, and the club/2020 - particularly SB - back in Conference days.
'Cuba' is never able to back up his claims, as we saw yesterday
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