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    A ‘good’ season to go down?

    Posted by Town planner on 6/3/2024, 12:16:35


    If Leicester, Leeds and Southampton are the promoted teams it will be even tougher to stay up next season. All three are Premier League set ups with budgets to match, and with Sheff Utd and Burnley down there’ll be no weak links.

    But going down I think we’d be promoted straight back up as the best-run and one of the best-finance clubs in the EFL, given the £50 million parachute money. We’d then be in a much better position to compete in the Premier League after a second promotion.

    We’d probably lose a couple of players but come back up with a much stronger squad.

    I can see Sheff Utd struggling next season and Burnley at best a play-off contender. Maybe whoever misses out this season (Ipswich?) will be challenging and likely Norwich, but all the ‘big’ clubs seem to have sh!t owners or financial problems, usually both.

      Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

      Posted by RGDave on 6/3/2024, 15:48:20, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

      Pointless speculation. If we stay up we'll deal with it, if we go down....we'll deal with it. Try to focus on the games ahead, that's all that matters.

        Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

        Posted by Watford Loyal on 6/3/2024, 14:17:07, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

        We totally agree 😁.
        No hiding next season

        Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

        Posted by m on 6/3/2024, 13:33:55, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

        Seem to recall thinking that coming out of Meadow Lane a few years ago

          Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

          Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 6/3/2024, 13:37:08, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

          I definitely wasn't thinking that at Meadow Lane

          Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

          Posted by Captain Kirk Stephens on 6/3/2024, 12:53:13, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

          If only it were that simple.

            Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

            Posted by Harry haslams honda on 6/3/2024, 12:38:43, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

            I think the biggest issue will be who we lose if we go down, Barkley and lakonga would be all but certain to go, Mengi highly likely and then the likes of Alfie, osho, Ogbene, Kaminski and Eli will most likely get some lower prem interest, I’m sure most of those will stay! I’d say there’s a chance of a permanent for Kabore! If we can replace anyone who goes with a solid first teamer we won’t be too far away.

              Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

              Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 6/3/2024, 13:30:43, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

              If I was looking to buy from us, Mengi would be top of the list

                Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                Posted by Ok on 6/3/2024, 12:58:12, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                Lakonga is loan player so gone at the end of the season anyway.

                An who wants Kabore permanently? He's not good enough, simple.

                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                  Posted by Harry haslams honda on 6/3/2024, 13:22:04, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                  The point with lakonga is there would be a chance, albeit still slim, of him joining permanently if we stay up but no chance if we go down. As for kabore, if we do go down and try to play in a similar way to this season I’d say he’d be a brilliant signing but of course thats just my opinion.

                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                  Posted by Captain Kirk Stephens on 6/3/2024, 12:54:14, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                  Kabore is useless. He's cost us at least five points this season.

                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                    Posted by Hawkesworth on 6/3/2024, 15:23:02, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                    He tore Villa's left back a new one at the weekend.

                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                  Posted by Sandgrounder on 6/3/2024, 12:31:51, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                  But surely even better to stay up this season, get another season of premier league money and the 3rd year of parachute payments for staying in the premier league for 2 seasons. Fully agree it will be harder in some ways to stay up next year. But Everton could go into admin, there may be other deductions for PSR breaches we don’t currently know about and a non-recent premier league side could get promoted through the play offs and struggle. I’d expect us to be in and around the play offs next year if we go down, but no more than that.

                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                    Posted by Town planner on 6/3/2024, 12:43:23, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "


                    Yeah fair comment, but I think think the Championship will be at its 'weakest' next season, so a return to the PL will be as nailed-on as it ever could be. The following season it would likely be stronger, based on who comes down next season.

                    And we won't need a second year of parachute money, let alone a third!

                    Given the choice I'd obviously rather stay up now, but every cloud and all that...

                      Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                      Posted by Madpig on 6/3/2024, 13:19:48, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                      And at what point would it be beneficial for us to then drop into League One?

                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                    Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 6/3/2024, 12:30:17, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                    Is that the Southampton that managed 25 pts last season? Surely parachute money is being spent on PC?

                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                    Posted by Don't Stop Believing on 6/3/2024, 12:21:25, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                    Utter clap trap.

                    Burnley will be all but nailed on for automatic. One of Leeds, Ipswich Or Southampton will not go up. Norwich and WBA wil ne there or there abouts.

                      Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                      Posted by Madpig on 6/3/2024, 15:17:00, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                      https://motleedsnews.com/news/leeds-united-embroiled-in-new-ffp-rule-breach-row-amid-leicester-city-development/

                        Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                        Posted by Ches Fordroad on 6/3/2024, 12:35:12, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                        "Utter clap trap"

                        Worried someone else is muscling in on your territory, Never Started?

                          Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                          Posted by Don't Stop Believing on 6/3/2024, 12:44:02, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                          Stand by it. Curious why you haven't said whether you agree or not with the original post? Or I deed mine?

                          It seems you just post on here to harass people who have a different view to you, rather than share any of your own.

                            Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                            Posted by Ches Fordroad on 6/3/2024, 13:05:22, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                            Harassing ...... oh for fuck's sake don't be such an utter fanny merchant.

                            As it happens I get the points he's making but don't necessarily agree. I do however think that next season would be more difficult for a number of reasons, not least the complacency and increased level of expectations; I'm sure the likes of yourself with your relentless positivity would be demanding nothing less than a top 6 finish.

                              Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                              Posted by Cuba on 6/3/2024, 12:47:36, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                              And any minutes he will accuse us of being the same person!

                                Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                Posted by Madpig on 6/3/2024, 13:18:06, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                😲😲😲...oh what a horrible man he is Cuba...and friends

                                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                  Posted by Ches Fordroad on 6/3/2024, 13:01:52, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                  Funny how you've both popped up at pretty much exactly the same time.

                                  And it's not like you've not got a fair bit of previous as far as this is concerned, is it, Sarge?

                                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 6/3/2024, 12:59:47, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                    As both the language and content are identical to many of your own posts, as you regularly recently appear within moments of each other and as you have frequently posted under multiple names on threads to appear to give your 'opinions' apparent support....it would seem a reasonable assumption.


                                    You've been 'sussed' completely Cuba, time to find another club and message board for your dull, destructive trolling

                                      Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                      Posted by Cuba on 6/3/2024, 14:08:20, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                      On your say so?

                                      You are as bad as Hunt twisting the facts to suit the story.

                                      For what it matters I am a Luton fan, quite why I would be so bothered if I wasn’t doesn’t really add up. Unless I have been deep state undercover for 50 plus years.

                                      Quite how I would be able be tell you about Raphael Meades debut, the near crush during the Brighton 1-4 FA Cup stuffing, the car Brian Swain drive and parked in Stanley Park. Jack Stacey’s last ‘appearance’ in a Luton shirt.

                                      I could go on.

                                      So don’t suggest otherwise, I am curious that’s all.

                                      As Teacher said, “keep em peeled”, just seems some have forgotten that mantra.



                                        Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 6/3/2024, 15:05:54, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                        It was Desperate Dan actually, and (like Teacher) he is and has been a long term comrade and friend in actively protecting the club from attack by the likes of Gurney, Pinkney, Jayten, Bushwood - and maybe you. As you would know if you'd been involved in the relevant groups.

                                        Easy for you to trawl up a few 'facts/anecdotes' gleaned from various sources, everyone can do that if motivated enough, but your posts speak volumes about you and I don't trust you or them an inch.

                                        Why? Because even on here I keep 'em peeled.

                                        As do others, it is clearly apparent.

                                          Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                          Posted by Cuba on 6/3/2024, 15:33:01, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                          I would have needed to be pretty good to have gained the knowledge you infer. How about what happened during the minutes silence during our last visit to Boothferry Park. Or who at the BBC “pulled rank” the day we won at Torquay in 2002? (And who on here coined that phrase).

                                          Yes I was at the Vauxhall meeting, yes I was at the first 2020 meeting on Park Street. Yes I was outside the Hockey Stadium. I even chased “DAK II” down KR road before the plate change.

                                          What I don’t get is why when DD and Teacher said keep em peeled it only refers to that point in time.

                                          Why is a critical opinion not welcomed without you calling it sinister?

                                            Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                            Posted by crumpsall on 6/3/2024, 15:44:15, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                            I don't believe anything you claim to be honest, but if you were outside the Hockey Stadium we will have a high level of mutual connections- and if you were part of all those actions surely part of the Trust or LL then? So make yourself known sometime perhaps, and you may gain some credibility.

                                            Your point about keep 'em peeled makes no sense, that's what I'm doing now. Who was the third person behind that saying, by the way?

                                              Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                              Posted by Cuba on 6/3/2024, 15:48:06, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                              Tiddles

                                                Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                Posted by crumpsall on 6/3/2024, 15:55:00, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                That's probably your most convincing post ever, to be honest.

                                                A friend of yours?

                                                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                  Posted by Cuba on 6/3/2024, 16:03:14, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                  I have said my piece. Clearly I was around at that time and played a very small part in the response to the threats to our club.

                                                  Bens original message board and WHOSH played a fundamental role in saving the club and where we are today.

                                                  And I know you were one of those people.

                                                  Thank you, you will likely never appreciate how appreciative I am.

                                                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 6/3/2024, 17:12:00, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                    Purely a bit player, but as conscious now as ever of challenges and threats and perhaps even more committed to protecting the club. Thus casting a wary and well peeled eye over the damaging negativity, trolling and undermining that goes on here and across other channels. As are many others, of course, many more so than I.


                                          Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                          Posted by Ches Fordroad on 6/3/2024, 14:45:26, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                          "keep em peeled"

                                          Yeah, I bet you were doing that for the Evans, Kohler, Gurney and Jayten eras .....

                                            Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                            Posted by Ramridge Raider on 6/3/2024, 14:41:38, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                            It's not 'curious' though is it?

                                            Your questions always seem pretty loaded and laced with doubt about the honesty and integrity of the Board/Recruitment Team/Medical staff etc.

                                            You obviously have a major beef. Rather than sly insinuations why not have the courage to lay out you beef, point by point. Here's your chance to prove you are not a troll.

                                              Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                              Posted by Cuba on 6/3/2024, 15:46:22, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                              Beef??

                                              Ok fair challenge.

                                              I don’t have have a particular beef with anyone.

                                              As a person I am a challenger, I do this professionally and personally.

                                              I demand honesty from everyone I deal with and employ, I can’t stand vagueness and ambiguity - I can’t help that it’s just me.

                                              So when someone tells me something and it doesn’t come true then I think I am allowed to challenge that. And I do so.

                                              So when it comes to football clearly there will always be uncertainty, I get that.

                                              But if Edwards comes out and states something like “we will end the window stronger” and we don’t and then the CEO says “we fell short” I want to know why and how that came to pass, particularly as getting it right was so critical.

                                              The point also around everything being “undisclosed” is red rag to me.

                                              In terms of PC, we have been promised updates and progress since 2016, so come 2024 I think it’s fair to be able ask for more clarity on why there still isn’t clarity on dates.

                                              So that is who I am, I am clearly a pain to most people but what I can’t tolerate is a blinkered view from some fans who don’t want to challenge the board, regardless.

                                                Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                Posted by Ramridge Raider on 6/3/2024, 16:17:48, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                But the board and RE don't work for you. Do you really think they will come out and disclose every detail of the transfer window just because you 'demand honesty'. If you've been following football for fifty years, surely you will know that it doesn't work that way. And if I need to explain why then you truly are niaive in the extreme.

                                                Same as the ground. You seem to think GS has been dishonest because some of the Prem money has been spent on the ground. Surely you must have known there was a funding gap and promotion would plug that. Even fans from other clubs were aware. Seems really odd that this has suddenly become an issue for you.

                                                Even when very educated and knowledgeable posters give you a very balanced explanation you choose not to listen and just return posting the same questions. Not sure what you want, a personal audience with GS?

                                                With everything that the Board have done for this club, I personally have utmost trust in their decision making and actions and know they will always have the best interests of the club at heart. You seem to be diametrically opposed to this viewpoint and have no trust whatsoever.

                                                I've said to you before, lighten up and enjoy the season. We've not had it so good for many years, so if you truly are a fan you might start focusing on the positives (of which there are many).






                                                Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                Posted by Really? on 6/3/2024, 15:57:16, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                'Honest' ??? Ffs

                                                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                  Posted by Madpig on 6/3/2024, 15:53:45, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                  How many names does honesty come with?

                                                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                    Posted by Cuba on 6/3/2024, 15:55:53, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                    Because I get criticism for just being “Cuba”.

                                                      Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                      Posted by Madpig on 6/3/2024, 18:14:33, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                      I'm relatively new here. Why does Cuba attract hostility?
                                                      Having asked that, how does changing one's posting name and then posting exactly the same stuff, even in the same style hide you?
                                                      All you're doing is winding up your persecutors to an even greater level of malice.
                                                      If you really think you're correct, stick to your guns under one name; there's no shame in that, and however grim your opinion may be, you're showing that they are your truly held beliefs.
                                                      If you're proved right you can have a public gloat. If not, just bite on the leather strap and take your punishment

                                                        Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                        Posted by Ches Fordroad on 6/3/2024, 16:09:03, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                        Oh come on, surely you can do better than that

                                                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                  Posted by Swansea Hatter on 6/3/2024, 14:27:38, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                  Given the relentless abuse you suffer on here from pretty much everyone (apart from your various alter-egos), it really puzzles me why you bother sharing your warped opinions and ideas.

                                                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                  Posted by Ramridge Raider on 6/3/2024, 13:24:26, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                  Saw your post about Cuba not even being a Luton fan.

                                                  Dismissed it initially but the more I think about it, you may be right.

                                                  Endless negativity and snide insinuations. This isn't about different opinions, there seems to be a real agenda with his posts.

                                                  I just don't think a real Luton fan would be this constantly negative considering the place we are in as a football club.

                                                    Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 6/3/2024, 15:22:59, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                    Or someone who nailed their colours to the Jayten/Gurney mast and is still bitter.

                                                      Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                      Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 6/3/2024, 13:35:05, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                      Important not to forget that football fans are donuts

                                                        Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                        Posted by crumpsall on 6/3/2024, 13:29:08, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                        He is reminiscent of a really weird and creepy character who stalked/harassed on this board, and others, and the club/2020 - particularly SB - back in Conference days.

                                                        'Cuba' is never able to back up his claims, as we saw yesterday

                                                          Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                          Posted by RADSB on 6/3/2024, 13:32:17, in reply to "Re: A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                          +1. Wasted my time before I sussed it. There was nothing "Luton" about his posts nor a few other names on that thread btw.

                                              Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                              Posted by Madpig on 6/3/2024, 12:20:59, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                              Burnley spent £100m in the summer

                                                Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                Posted by Graham Jones on 6/3/2024, 12:20:44, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                Wechavecto average a point a game and target games and izzy is still out...

                                                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                  Posted by Ronnies Finger on 6/3/2024, 12:19:29, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                  Can you give me the winning numbers for this weeks lottery by any chance?

                                                  Re: A ‘good’ season to go down?

                                                  Posted by Trevor on 6/3/2024, 12:19:02, in reply to "A ‘good’ season to go down? "

                                                  OK soothsayer

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