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    The one saving grace

    Posted by Sandgrounder on 27/2/2024, 22:31:52

    We are scoring goals (not sure how many consecutive games weíve scored in now but itís a ridiculous number) and creating chances. Thereís not many teams weíll out score in the Premier League though. There needs to be a bit of a reset, especially with our best defensive midfielders absent.

    Man City are just stupidly good though - you can admire the skill but mismatches like that are not especially fun.

      Re: The one saving grace

      Posted by The Outsider on 28/2/2024, 0:22:52, in reply to "The one saving grace"

      Nine

        Re: The one saving grace

        Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 27/2/2024, 23:03:45, in reply to "The one saving grace"

        So we need to reset so we are not scoring goals?

          Re: The one saving grace

          Posted by Sandgrounder on 27/2/2024, 23:29:47, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

          No, we need to reset so we have a better balance between defence and attack. We have the individual quality to score goals while still defending as a team

          Re: The one saving grace

          Posted by K.l. on 27/2/2024, 22:43:17, in reply to "The one saving grace"

          Our manager has said after the game he will carry on playing the same way.

            Re: The one saving grace

            Posted by Music Critic on 27/2/2024, 22:52:21, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

            We'll probably get relegated then

            He's got to find a balance. We've tried to go toe to toe with one of the best sides on the planet. Naive

              Re: The one saving grace

              Posted by Notorious D on 27/2/2024, 23:05:44, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

              +1. I donít understand where this Ďgun hoí approach has come from. He left the players hung out to dry tonight, especially menghi. Our players confidence will be very low going into Saturday.

                Re: The one saving grace

                Posted by Music Critic on 27/2/2024, 23:31:04, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                Yep

                Dare I say it, it's almost Graeme Jones-esque. The attitude of "we will play this way even if the players aren't good enough to execute it..." is crazy and just like what happened in 2019-20

                The players will not thank him for hanging them out to dry. I don't think we played that badly as individuals. It was our bonkers tactical set up that did for us

                  Re: The one saving grace

                  Posted by Notorious D on 27/2/2024, 23:43:50, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                  Agree with your whole statement.

                  I said the same thing after Liverpool, that this Ďbrand of footballí is very GJ esque. Itís baffling, because RE seems to be contradicting his original principles.

                  I recall him saying last season, and start of this season, that a good manager plays to the strengths of his team and isnít stubbornly insisting upon his own philosophy (without the necessary tools).

                  With a bit of fine tuning defensively, we have the makings of a decent side; but unfortunately I think Rob is now blinkered into one way of playing, and we will continue to be easy to pick apart.

                Re: The one saving grace

                Posted by Hippo on 27/2/2024, 23:04:06, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                Totally agree with this, itís way too gung-ho for my liking. Giving up so many chances every game.

                I do fear Edwards is going to be stubborn with it and not change. Watkins, Bailey and Douglas Luiz will be rubbing their hands together ahead of Saturday.

                  Re: The one saving grace

                  Posted by Notorious D on 27/2/2024, 23:07:06, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                  +1. Itís like he is auditioning himself for Ďbigger and betterí jobs.

                    Re: The one saving grace

                    Posted by Hippo on 27/2/2024, 23:34:27, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                    A few people have said this to me about him really trying to impress bigger clubs, and Iím beginning to agree. It kind of feels like heís showcasing the football he can and wants to play, more than adapting it to what best suits Luton with the players available. We look so open without a fit proper CDM.

                      Re: The one saving grace

                      Posted by Music Critic on 27/2/2024, 23:41:39, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                      I don't know about him eyeing up another move but without a recognised CDM we will have to go back to being a bit basic. 2 banks of 5 without the ball and when we win possession break with the pace we have

                      Like how we played against Liverpool at home. Almost the perfect performance against a team with better attacking quality. But we seem to have ditched that just cos we had a couple of mediocre away performances after that

                        Re: The one saving grace

                        Posted by Notorious D on 27/2/2024, 23:52:21, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                        I think tactical flexibility is what will bring us success in this division; a horses for courses approach depending on the opposition and our players available.

                        Again, Edwards said many times that he is a firm believer of flexibility, but now seems to have adopted the one dimensional, GJ ethos. I hope youíre right, that heís become too fixated with the Brentford away game; but the cynic in me thinks he is desperate to stay in the league, whether thatís with us or another club is irrelevant.

                          Re: The one saving grace

                          Posted by Hippo on 27/2/2024, 23:51:08, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                          Totally agree. Itís not like we are creating chances galore with these new tactics, certainly nowhere near as many as we are offering up anyway. I donít remember Onana, Foderingham and Kelleher having to make a decent save in the last 3 league games.

                            Re: The one saving grace

                            Posted by Sandgrounder on 27/2/2024, 23:45:49, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                            Although v Liverpool Nunez was still in his Ďcould score in a brothelí phase. Kaminski made some great saves. We could have conceded plenty.

                            On Saturday I would go back to basics a bit though:

                            Kaminski

                            Kabore
                            Whatever 3 CBs are fit
                            Doughty

                            Barkley
                            Clark

                            Chong
                            Morris
                            Townsend

                            Iíd give Ogbene a rest, didnít seem quite on it tonight. This assumes that Adebayo and Sambi are unfit

                              Re: The one saving grace

                              Posted by Music Critic on 27/2/2024, 23:50:55, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                              That midfield, while individually good, does not look like a midfield that will do enough defensively

                              I'd get as many defensively minded players in the side and look to break at pace. But I dunno if we have the personnel

                              On Liverpool at home I never felt, at any time, that we were getting carved open. They had 2 or 3 good chances but you'd expect that

                              City could have had double figures tonight cos we were setup stupidly

                                Re: The one saving grace

                                Posted by Sandgrounder on 27/2/2024, 23:55:00, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                                Well thatís the issue isnít it, thereís hardly any options. Pelly or Clark is really the only choice in midfield. Would Pelly make that much difference from a defensive point of view? Clark would likely keep the ball better. 2 out of Chong, Townsend and Ogbene - not sure it would make much difference to our defensive security who is selected there either.

                                  Re: The one saving grace

                                  Posted by Music Critic on 27/2/2024, 23:59:59, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                                  Hence my argument to, without a good CDM, just sit with 2 banks of 5 and counter attack against better sides. Like Sheff Utd did to us

                                  But Notorious D is right - adapt for the opposition we're up against. Maybe we could go a bit more "balls out" against Palace, Bournemouth, Brentford et al but FFS, be more realistic against Spurs, City and Arsenal

                  Re: The one saving grace

                  Posted by AI Bot on 27/2/2024, 22:38:09, in reply to "The one saving grace"

                  I think it's 14 games now. We do need to rethink our defensive strategy though. I didn't expect anything from Utd, Liverpool or City and 12 of the 19 in 5 have come from them. The other 7 were 4 at Newcastle, forgivable considering the game and the 4 we scored. The one freakish result really was Sheff Utd. I think after Villa we will get a better grip of it defensively again. Not expecting anything from Villa originally but I got a funny feeling tonight we can get a point. I really really hope Lakonga and Adebayo are both back at least after Villa if not in time for Villa.

                    Re: The one saving grace

                    Posted by The Outsider on 28/2/2024, 0:24:37, in reply to "Re: The one saving grace"

                    It's nine. Bolton at home was 0-0.

                    13 league games. Only Spurs have a longer unbroken run at the moment.

                    Re: The one saving grace

                    Posted by Herts Hatter on 27/2/2024, 22:33:20, in reply to "The one saving grace"

                    A few nil nils would do right now

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