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Two Wins
Posted by MkHat on 26/2/2024, 13:23:56
That's all breaking rules is worth!
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Vidar on 26/2/2024, 13:28:09, in reply to "Two Wins"
If a club becoming insolvent is worth only 9 points then 10 points never really made any logical sense.
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Herts Hatter on 26/2/2024, 13:29:46, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
Surely insolvency may be different from deliberately engineered cheating
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Madpig on 26/2/2024, 14:31:09, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
Didn't Pompey get -12 for going I to administration when in the Prem?
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 26/2/2024, 13:43:50, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
Yes I think so. If you go bust for whatever reason, that's largely your own problem but you've inconvenienced everyone else and so should get some form of penalty.
But Everton's position is that they have a better team than they should because of players paid for on credit that they likely can't actually afford.
If Everton didn't have Pickford and Onana in the team for example how many fewer points would they have won?
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Vidar on 26/2/2024, 13:37:16, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
The Premier League have no existing clear set of rules in place when it comes to deductions for this kind of breach.
6 or 10 points, it's still completely arbitrary.
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Newton on 26/2/2024, 13:38:28, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
That's the problem right there. Why on earth they didn't agree a fixed set of penalties at the time of bringing in the rules is beyond me.
And, now we're at it, a fixed timescale by which punishments must be announced, can be appealed, etc. etc.
P1ss up and brewery comes to mind
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 26/2/2024, 13:45:44, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
Problem with a fixed penalty might be that it creates a false incentive to cheat, if you feel you can cheat and get a bigger advantage than the X number of points it will cost you
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Newton on 26/2/2024, 16:43:07, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
Reasonable point - though to be fair, if you think you can handle the punishment, you can do the crime (within reason!!). So if teams want to risk a £10m loss and a 6 point penalty, on the basis the player(s) they buy will hopefully cover that loss, perhaps they should be allowed to.
Re: Two Wins
Posted by Godders on 26/2/2024, 13:41:53, in reply to "Re: Two Wins"
Obviously it helps them make up the rules as they go along depending on which teams they want to let off/hit hard at any given time. So, in fact it was clever of them not to stipulate the details.
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