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    Club announcement

    Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 11:03:36

    That they've just released on 'tragedy chanting'.

    Genuine question - does that include 'we've never played in Europe because of you'?

      Re: Club announcement

      Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 21/2/2024, 11:37:28, in reply to "Club announcement "

      Yes

        Re: Club announcement

        Posted by Madpig on 21/2/2024, 14:10:07, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

        Really? But it's true, and we're not taking the piss out of those that were killed...only the killers

          Re: Club announcement

          Posted by Essex hatter on 21/2/2024, 15:54:32, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

          I hate Liverpool fans come on Luton Town

          Re: Club announcement

          Posted by Cheated on 21/2/2024, 12:23:11, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

          Can we sing the national anthem or will that offend them?

            Re: Club announcement

            Posted by Swiss on 21/2/2024, 13:48:06, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

            Maybe other teams might sing about your plastic pitch

              Re: Club announcement

              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 21/2/2024, 14:28:56, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

              What a daft comparison.

              Re: Club announcement

              Posted by HH on 21/2/2024, 12:48:14, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

              I also heard they've banned easter

                Re: Club announcement

                Posted by WH on 21/2/2024, 12:32:39, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                Why would you want to sing it? Didn't realise England were playing tonight

                  Re: Club announcement

                  Posted by Sandgrounder on 21/2/2024, 12:27:37, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                  What do you think? I mustíve missed it when we sang the national anthem at the last 24 league games. But yeah, if you want to, go ahead. Clearly itís not a song that is tragedy chanting, racist, homophobic etc. so Iím sure you can make an educated guess about whether itís ok or not.

                    Re: Club announcement

                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:36:31, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                    Depending on your view of war you can certainly make a case that it's tragedy chanting and offensive to any of the many nations we've had a conflict with.

                    It would get sung I imagine for the same reason it gets sung when we play Welsh teams

                Re: Club announcement

                Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 21/2/2024, 11:33:48, in reply to "Club announcement "

                The youngest victim of Heysel was Andrea Casula. He was just 11 years old. His father Giovanni, 44, was also killed and was found lying only yards away from his son.

                Sure, chant about that if it makes you feel good.

                  Re: Club announcement

                  Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:09:34, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                  It's not to make the singer feel good though is it...it's to remind the victims that they're often the perpetrators

                    Re: Club announcement

                    Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 21/2/2024, 12:19:34, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                    Gosh. Profound. Please post details on here of your next church sermon or philosophy seminar.

                    Re: Club announcement

                    Posted by EastEnder on 21/2/2024, 11:47:12, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                    Also if England fans hadn't rioted at Euro 88, the ban would possibly have been lifted in 88/89

                      Re: Club announcement

                      Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:08:34, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                      If, buts and possiblies

                        Re: Club announcement

                        Posted by EastEnder on 21/2/2024, 12:16:34, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                        Well it was said before Euro 88 there was a good chance it would be lifted if England fans behaved.



                          Re: Club announcement

                          Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:19:20, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                          good chance(possibility)if

                            Re: Club announcement

                            Posted by EastEnder on 21/2/2024, 12:26:48, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                            Still childish to blame it all on Liverpool fans not getting to play in Europe.




                    Re: Club announcement

                    Posted by Sandgrounder on 21/2/2024, 11:30:40, in reply to "Club announcement "

                    Maybe just support the team and sing about our club and players instead?? Radical I know

                      Re: Club announcement

                      Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:06:54, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                      Brilliant, a whole 90 mins of 'come on Luton' and 'Super Robbie Edwards'

                      Superb.

                      Is it any wonder people who went week in, week out are giving up with this season?

                        Re: Club announcement

                        Posted by Herve Baquet on 21/2/2024, 12:51:00, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                        Funny that there's atmosphere at every other game and people don't moan about there not being enough songs.

                        The fact that Liverpool fans get pissed off, because of your shit songs, is your fault and not theirs.

                        Can you really not see why LFC fans are sensitive about this? Families of people who went to a football match and never came home have spent years fighting for justice, after being told Hillsborough was their fault.

                        The claim that this song is about Heysel is just bullshit IMO. But even if it's not, it's not surprising the nuance isn't picked up on by most.

                        Add that to the shit songs about poverty (when we're a working class club at the heart of a deprived town), and it makes us all look like pricks.

                        But carry on, if you must.

                          Re: Club announcement

                          Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 13:55:27, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                          Could've played in Europe because of you is about Heysel though.

                          I agree, re the other song.

                          Obviously the elephant in the room is the thing we're not allowed to say about Hillsborough....

                            Re: Club announcement

                            Posted by bbb on 21/2/2024, 14:16:33, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                            Liverpool fans without tickets?

                            Yep.

                              Re: Club announcement

                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 21/2/2024, 14:34:27, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                              Which the enquiry found wasn't true.

                                Re: Club announcement

                                Posted by bbb on 21/2/2024, 14:38:21, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                Seriously? If you believe that, I presume you also believe in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy ffs🤣🤣

                          Re: Club announcement

                          Posted by Sandgrounder on 21/2/2024, 12:09:58, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                          Yes, sorry, youíre right, thatís literally the only 2 songs we have. When we donít play Liverpool and songs about being banned from Europe arenít relevant the place is like a morgue.

                            Re: Club announcement

                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:11:34, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                            It pretty much is though, isn't it.

                            A handful more might get trotted out at away games and the Tommy Lockyer song might get a go but realistically 85% of what we sing is those two songs

                              Re: Club announcement

                              Posted by MG on 21/2/2024, 12:36:40, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                              30 points
                              Ole ole ole
                              F**k the FA
                              Come on you Hatters
                              We love you luton we do
                              Hark now hear the Luton sing
                              When the Town go steaming in
                              Nakamba!
                              We are the Luton and we are the best

                              And so on . . .

                              They all get trotted out every week among others, not really sure how you haven't spotted them.

                                Re: Club announcement

                                Posted by crumpsall . on 21/2/2024, 12:33:20, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                What??

                                30 points who gives a fuck

                                Fuck the FA

                                Frequently and at every game

                                Dittu. Songs about individual players - Adebayo, Barkley, Kaminski particularly but also Bell, Morris. And Pelly when he plays. Ditto Marvellous.

                                Are you actually deaf, or just playing dumb?

                                  Re: Club announcement

                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 21/2/2024, 13:39:25, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                  I think you spelled "plain" wrong there.

                                    Re: Club announcement

                                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:45:47, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                    The players songs after the player has done something yeah. Although some are the same song just the name changed (Lokonga/Kaminski)

                                    30 points after a contentious decision.

                                    Yes the others get an airing, usually after we've scored, but as I say, the majority is those two songs

                                      Re: Club announcement

                                      Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 12:48:57, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                      I reckon 30 points gets as much airtime as anything apart from the Robbie Edwards song.

                                      It gets a lot more from me, very definitely!

                                        Re: Club announcement

                                        Posted by The Questioner on 21/2/2024, 13:55:43, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                        Is it ok to chant swear words when kids are in the ground ?
                                        It doesnít happen in other sports.

                                      Re: Club announcement

                                      Posted by Sandgrounder on 21/2/2024, 12:44:43, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                      He doesnít need to play dumb, it comes naturally

                                  Re: Club announcement

                                  Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 12:09:49, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                  Are they?

                                  Not that I've noticed

                                  Perhaps it's just some braindead coked up tossers.

                                    Re: Club announcement

                                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:14:13, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                    Just because you haven't noticed, doesn't mean it's not happening.

                                    There are plenty (who don't do coke) who have stopped because of shit like VAR, tickets, the general communication from the club, being treated like criminals before they even go, the queues to get in and around the ground...the list goes on.

                                    Yes it's our big season back in the Prem, but it's not all it's cranked up to be for some.

                                      Re: Club announcement

                                      Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 12:20:01, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                      Their choice. Or maybe just your view.

                                      People I know who were initially anti the PL 'experience', for the reasons you mention, have now all come around to it and are loving every minute, despite that.

                                      Including a good mate who is very regular on here and was very vocal about it.

                                      It's just life, sometimes you have to think about the bigger picture than yourself - and what you want to do, with no thought for others

                                        Re: Club announcement

                                        Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:27:50, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                        BBB I'm guessing?

                                        I quite like this season and don't mind some of the issues mentioned, so it's not my view (although I don't like var).

                                        Horses for courses I guess

                                          Re: Club announcement

                                          Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 12:35:36, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                          Yep. Very anti initially but now relishing every momemt. Similarly Soulhat, if you know him (G Block) and others I speak to - all ages and sorts.


                                            Re: Club announcement

                                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:42:02, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                            I don't know soulhat from the moniker but there's a reasonable chance I may know him, same with you I suspect.

                                            Most of the people I'm talking about are younger lads (chiprats ages although not him or his lot specifically) who started going regularly in non league, and I can certainly understand why its not the same, but then some of that is additional responsibility away from football I suppose

                                              Re: Club announcement

                                              Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 12:45:31, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                              I've seen Chiprat and co at games this season, plus loads of newer, younger lads.

                                              Do you not think that difficulties getting tickets might be a factor?

                                                Re: Club announcement

                                                Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 12:50:13, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                                Yeah I didn't mean them specifically, just that age range.

                                                The lads I've been talking to have no trouble getting a ticket if they want it (most have a eason ticket)

                                                  Re: Club announcement

                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 13:00:51, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                                  So if you're speaking to them, they are going to.games then????🤔

                                                    Re: Club announcement

                                                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 13:14:22, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                                    Is that a serious question?

                                                    Some are picking and choosing games, others aren't going at all.

                                                    WhatsApp exists

                                  Re: Club announcement

                                  Posted by Cool story on 21/2/2024, 11:46:05, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                  Do you have a list to hand of acceptable songs we can sing? Thanks.

                                    Re: Club announcement

                                    Posted by Sandgrounder on 21/2/2024, 11:59:15, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                    No I donít, sorry. Maybe just follow a general rule of thumb to not sing anything that makes you sound like a bigoted twat. Hope that helps.

                                      Re: Club announcement

                                      Posted by Cool story on 21/2/2024, 12:09:15, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                      Surely that's down to opinion?

                                      Re: Club announcement

                                      Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 11:49:05, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                      Bloody hell, not that routine again....🙄

                                    Re: Club announcement

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 21/2/2024, 11:26:46, in reply to "Club announcement "

                                    What sort of knob would want to sing that anyhow?

                                    Or are you desperate to be 'edgy'? Very boring

                                      Re: Club announcement

                                      Posted by ELH on 21/2/2024, 11:17:11, in reply to "Club announcement "

                                      Probably. Although it neither mocks nor glorifies a tragedy, it refers to one and arguably trivialises it. Rightly or wrongly that seems to be where the line is drawn.

                                        Re: Club announcement

                                        Posted by EastEnder on 21/2/2024, 11:34:05, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                        Football would have been different if we hadn't been banned anyway.

                                        Sane set of transfers wouldn't have taken place at clubs from Summer 85 onwards, so the League Cup results in 1988 would not have been identical.




                                        Re: Club announcement

                                        Posted by EastEnder on 21/2/2024, 11:12:52, in reply to "Club announcement "

                                        Ask @hattershelp



                                          Re: Club announcement

                                          Posted by Doctor Ince on 21/2/2024, 11:15:01, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                          I don't do twitter

                                            Re: Club announcement

                                            Posted by Kurious Oranj on 21/2/2024, 11:17:58, in reply to "Re: Club announcement "

                                            I would imagine so.

                                            Just back our lads to the max

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