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    Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

    Posted by Theophilus Carter on 3/2/2024, 8:33:21

    Report from the Free Speech Union:
    Football fan banned over gender-critical posts after ‘Stasi’ Premier League investigation

    It’s great to see news of our latest case in the Telegraph – and it’s arguably our biggest yet!

    In the four years since the FSU was formed, we’ve come across some pretty appalling examples of private companies punishing their employers and their customers simply for exercising their right to lawful free speech. But this is the most egregious instance we’ve come across.

    At the heart of this case is die-hard football fan Linzi Smith and the outrageous way she’s been treated by the club she supports – Newcastle United Football Club (NUFC) – for expressing views that don’t align with fashionable orthodoxy.

    That part of the story is, in itself, bad enough. But what the FSU has also uncovered while providing Linzi with support and assistance is a shadowy intelligence unit embedded in the Premier League, whose job appears to be snooping on football fans, checking their social media accounts, and then determining if they’ve engaged in wrongthink.

    In Linzi’s case, NUFC reached out to the Premier League to help investigate her and the League then tasked its spy unit with compiling a dossier on her, which it then handed over to the club. At that point, NUFC took the decision to ban her from attending games for the rest of this season and for the next two.

    We fear that what happened to Linzi could – probably already has – happened to other football fans of Premier League clubs.

    Unlikely as it may sound, our national game has suddenly become the battleground in the latest fight to defend free speech.

    Linzi is a 34-year-old female NUFC fan. (Click the image at the top of this story to watch FSU General Secretary Toby Young’s interview with Linzi). She’s passionate about her local team, and will regularly buy tickets for home games at St. James’s Park. But she’s now no longer able to do that.

    Her ‘crime’ in the eyes of her hometown team – the club to whom she’s given tens of thousands of pounds over her lifetime? Expressing ‘gender critical’ views on social media.

    Linzi’s ordeal began on 1st November last year when she was suspended as a member of NUFC’s supporters’ club because of supposedly “hateful” things she’d said on X (formerly Twitter).

    NUFC contacted Linzi via email to let her know that she was being investigated by the police for a possible hate crime and that she was being suspended from the club as a result. This caused Linzi considerable alarm and distress as she had not been contacted by the police at that point. It took some days before the police were able to confirm that any investigation was underway.

    We can understand a football club wanting to exclude a fan who’d engaged in online abuse of players or officials, particularly racist abuse.

    But that’s not what happened here.

    At no stage was Linzi charged by the police with committing an offence, and Northumbria Police, having interviewed her after her supposedly ‘transphobic’ remarks were reported to them, decided that no action needed to be taken.

    Not that that’s particularly surprising. One of the ‘hateful’ posts which resulted in the investigation read: “Just your daily reminder that transwomen are men.” The others were of a similar nature, expressing her belief in the biological reality of sex. These are views that are shared by the vast majority of the British population, and – ironically – the Saudi owners of NUFC.

    With the FSU’s help, Linzi appealed the ban, pointing out that the club appears to have ignored its obligations as a service provider not to discriminate against her based on her gender critical beliefs, which constitute protected philosophical beliefs under the Equality Act 2010. Alas, it was to no avail, as the appeal panel – consisting of the club’s Head of Safeguarding, Head of Supporter Services, and Commercial Venue Director – upheld its original decision and concluded that the sanction was “appropriate”.

    One of the most shocking aspects of Linzi’s case is that when the club responded to her appeal it sent her a cache of documents that included a report that had been compiled by the Premier League’s very own intelligence unit.

    It appears that, as part of the evidence against Linzi, NUFC considered a raft of personal information compiled by this unit.

    What emerges from this concerning report is evidence of considerable surveillance, intended to prove that Linzi, the NUFC supporter, was the owner of the X account from which the ‘offensive’ X posts were sent.

    Chillingly, the report refers to Linzi as the “target”.

    Attempts were made to find out where she lived. Google images were used to assess photos on her X timeline, and identify her precise location. Photos were downloaded in which she can be seen walking her dog in a park near to where she lives. The fact that she has “ties” to nearby Whitley Bay was also noted.

    We think the fact that the Premier League compiled and passed on this detailed personal information about Linzi to NUFC is a flagrant breach of GDPR – and with our help she’s now submitted a complaint to the information regulator, the ICO.

    While we continue to help Linzi to secure justice in this case, it’s clear that another, equally pressing issue has arisen: just how many other fans are being monitored by the ‘Stadium Stasi’? And how many have been similarly penalised – not for racist abuse, but for expressing perfectly reasonable, mainstream political views that fall foul of fashionable dogma?

    We suspect we know the answer to that question, but we’d like to know for sure.

    That’s why we’re asking for your support.

    If you’re a fan of a Premier League team, and you’ve ever expressed perfectly lawful but ‘non-woke’ views on social media in the past, on this subject or any other, please go to our website and use our new, automatic form to submit a subject access request, both to your Premier League club and to the Premier League itself.

      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

      Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 10:14:32, in reply to "Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

      OK, I read the article. It certainly looks heavy handed on the face of it.Now let's talk ' freedom of speech'
      What is freedom of speech? It it the ability to say what you want, where you want and about any topic you want?
      Are there boundaries you wouldn't cross? Are the criticisms of some of your members, who state you're fronting for a much more right wing agenda a contravention of free speech, because they were told not to say it?
      Most importantly, this is a Luton Town fans forum, not a box in speakers corner.
      If your views are held so deeply then why do you not become a political party and put up for election? You have a massive membership of 22000, much more than the Raving Monster Looney party's 1400, but they manage every election time.
      Racism in particular is a cancer that has infected football, it has to be eradicated from the game, as does any form of bigotry.
      This lady's social media offerings caught someone's attention and was reported.Tbe subsequent 'stasi' headline grabber is very colourful, but I early dramatic; as one would expect of the press.
      However, after the investigation passed from the Secret Service to the police, she was exonerated of any crime.
      Now regarding Newcastle United, they are a business, a venue, and like any other entertainment venue, they have the right to refuse entry. The spotlight is now in them, not those whose duty it was to respond to, and investigate, claims regarding hate statements.
      Lastly, others may ot, but I resent you using this case to come on here to whip up membership, quite unashamedly, and on those grounds, if I were admin, I would've deleted your post immediately

        Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

        Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:18:24, in reply to "Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

        Truly mate, and I'm not being nasty here, that is sad. Please, go get some help.

          Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

          Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 3/2/2024, 10:03:17, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

          Irony meter explodes

            Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

            Posted by Grimwood on 3/2/2024, 9:31:31, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

            What sort of help and why?

            For speaking up for biological females and expressing concerns about the actities of the police?

            Or not holding the same opions as you do?

              Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

              Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:42:57, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

              Maybe this will help dispel the martyr glow

              Imogen West-Knights, writing for Vice, argued that in setting up the FSU, Young wanted "to be able to slag off [minority groups] to his heart's content".[2] Joel Golby, writing an op-ed for The Guardian, argued that subsequent to his foundation of the FSU, Young was likely to become a "Nigel Farage copycat", adding that "we didn't take Ukip seriously at the start because it was just Robert Kilroy-Silk pouring excess energy from not being on TV any more into saying 'legitimate concerns' a lot... And then, oops, we all woke up and Brexit had happened."[3]

              In January 2021, a group of student activists who had joined the Free Speech Youth Advisory Board criticised the way the organisation was run, claiming that they were censured if they disagreed with the group's views, which they claimed were right-of-centre.[9] Having been led to believe that it was a grassroots campaign, they commented that it appeared to be an astroturfed front for the Free Speech Union.[9]

                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                Posted by Grimwood on 3/2/2024, 10:07:24, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                What's any of that got to do with the FA compiling a dosier based on someone having an opinion on biological males a accessing safe spaces for women and girls.

                Based on that most on here I'd wager could expect the same and a knock from the boys in blue

                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/2/2024, 10:00:50, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                Two people's opinions and some students...not exactly compelling stuff there madpig mate

                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                Posted by I think on 3/2/2024, 9:38:16, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                We know the answer to that already, having read his posts on this thread. Happy to put anyone down that doesn't share his viewpoint.

                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                  Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:43:54, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                  Isn't that just what the FSU are doing?

                  Imogen West-Knights, writing for Vice, argued that in setting up the FSU, Young wanted "to be able to slag off [minority groups] to his heart's content".[2] Joel Golby, writing an op-ed for The Guardian, argued that subsequent to his foundation of the FSU, Young was likely to become a "Nigel Farage copycat", adding that "we didn't take Ukip seriously at the start because it was just Robert Kilroy-Silk pouring excess energy from not being on TV any more into saying 'legitimate concerns' a lot... And then, oops, we all woke up and Brexit had happened."[3]

                  In January 2021, a group of student activists who had joined the Free Speech Youth Advisory Board criticised the way the organisation was run, claiming that they were censured if they disagreed with the group's views, which they claimed were right-of-centre.[9] Having been led to believe that it was a grassroots campaign, they commented that it appeared to be an astroturfed front for the Free Speech Union.[9]

              Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

              Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/2/2024, 8:47:43, in reply to "Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

              Sinister.

              Been going this way for a long time though. Need people to fight it. I'm assuming the FSA aren't interested either.

                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                Posted by Okey on 3/2/2024, 10:24:58, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                Weird how right wing loons get so triggered by the trans issue.

                So offended that the daily mail has an article daily it seems winding the morons up.

                That led to the death of that trans girl the other month in part.

                Yet if a Muslim uses free speech to promote Islam they go nuts.

                Funny world.

                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                  Posted by Hj on 3/2/2024, 10:27:43, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                  Weird how left wing loons get so triggered by people with an even slightly different viewpoint to their own.

                  Funny world indeed.

                    Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                    Posted by Okey on 3/2/2024, 10:55:34, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                    What paper do you read that in?

                    What social media site?

                    None?

                    Thought so.

                      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                      Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/2/2024, 10:59:20, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                      Left v right

                        Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                        Posted by Okey on 3/2/2024, 11:05:22, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                        Who is getting outraged on here?

                        Look at the names.

                        Always the same angry and bitter fools who if they took time to realise what really makes them angry would mean they would have to look in the mirror.

                          Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                          Posted by J on 3/2/2024, 11:06:28, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                          Says Mr.Outraged🤣🤣🤣

                            Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/2/2024, 11:27:24, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                            Wonder which of the regular posters 'that doesn't use multiple names' it is.

                            I actually agree that there is probably more to it that 'trans women are men' and she is probably a pretty transphobic piece of work.

                            That being said, the amount of detail put into this investigation, including street view of her walking her dog etc, is concerning

                              Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                              Posted by Okey on 3/2/2024, 11:42:52, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                              Maybe you should ask me.

                              I’m the poster you claimed wante to meet you in the boater.

                              You wanted me to wear leather trousers.

                              Hope that helps in distracting from the usual gibberish you spout.

                                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/2/2024, 13:29:26, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                There was definitely someone on here who offered to meet me by a pool table in a pub. Claimed he would be wearing leather trousers. Seemed a bit too YMCA for me.

                                Anyway, it doesn't really help because I can't remember what name you used then, either.

                                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                  Posted by Okey on 3/2/2024, 13:47:31, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                  No offence but your private life is of no interest to me as stated at the time.

                                  How anyone can get offended by you is a mystery.

                                  I find you entertaining but not in a sexual way.

                                  Enjoy.

                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                Posted by O on 3/2/2024, 8:43:33, in reply to "Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                Absolutely alarming but sadly not surprising.
                Unfortunately too many are over keen to take offence on behalf of someone else.
                This board has a few very guilty of doing just that.

                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                  Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:23:15, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                  So give me an idea of what you consider to be inoffensive.
                  Gender?
                  Mental health?
                  Disabilities?
                  Colour?
                  Religion?
                  Just being different maybe, you know, a bit of a fatty, maybe just plain ugly?

                    Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                    Posted by O on 3/2/2024, 9:26:53, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                    You're now trying to push the topic of conversation off on a tangent to once again prove my point about using social media to try and prove you are morally superior.
                    Why not just address the main issue raised in the OP instead of blindly and rudely dismissing it?

                      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                      Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:32:37, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                      But the main issue has no substance, it's conjecture at present. How can I argue against evidence that hasn't been produced.
                      At the moment it's just one long opinion.
                      Now everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to present that opinion as fact.
                      There's no moral superiority here, just the opposite, I'm trying to prove that no one has the right of superiority over his fellow citizen

                    Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                    Posted by Godders on 3/2/2024, 8:48:38, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                    Perhaps if more people stood up for the rights of the vulnerable and disadvantaged rather than purely self-serving their own interests then there'd no need for others to stand up for them or use that hugely cringe worthy word "woke".

                    Society is about looking after and caring for one another. On that basis, I'm in. If that means I'm woke, or compassionate or empathic, then I'm very happy about that.

                    The very fact we even need to have this discussion is a sad indictment on society as a whole.

                      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                      Posted by RPL on 3/2/2024, 10:39:27, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                      You weren’t very compassionate to that Tory minister the other day Rev. TBH you gave the impression you were quite gleeful that his financial circumstances has taken a tumble, despite freely admitting you knew sod all about them.

                        Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                        Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 3/2/2024, 9:17:57, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                        This has nothing to do with any lack of compassion in our society, it's about free speech. If this lady wishes to express her views on transgender people, as long as she does not break the law, she is is entitled to do that. It is not for the likes of NUFC or the PL to set themselves up as investigators and judges.

                        So where do you stand, does she have the right to freely express her views on transgender people, assuming they are reasonable and legal?

                          Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                          Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:49:37, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                          What did she say, and where did she say it?
                          This guy comes up with that weird post, spouting all forms of conspiracy, but didn't actually say what she had actually said.
                          I can only be as general as he's being.

                            Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                            Posted by Just saying on 3/2/2024, 10:04:37, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                            ‘Just your daily reminder that trans women are men’ hardly a hate crime, unless you’re WOKE of course.

                              Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                              Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 11:04:37, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                              Yep, the cops agree, not a hate crime. Case closed...unless as 'entitled' one decides one is ' entitled' to more 😏
                              The issue is now with NUFC. They've decided they want more.
                              Had this bloke published a couple of days earlier all our fans going up there could've boycotted the game in solidarity with the young lady.
                              Trouble is, he didn't want that. He knows where to come to drum up members, football forums.
                              Someone commented on one of my posts, 'oh the irony'
                              Similar to this group telling members to shut up and say the right thing.

                                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                Posted by Okey on 3/2/2024, 11:00:44, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                Nonces tend to make the loudest denials I read.

                                Most are heterosexual.

                                Weird eh?

                              Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                              Posted by Godders on 3/2/2024, 9:23:18, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                              When people say something has nothing to do with whatever it demonstrates a naïvity about how everything is interconnected and impacts other things. Nothing stands in isolation.

                              https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/msg/1706867650.html

                                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 3/2/2024, 9:48:04, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                I never had any real expectation you would answer my question. Assume therefore you are happy for individuals to have their lives ruined because their legally held views differ from others in a position of power.

                                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                  Posted by Okey on 3/2/2024, 11:14:25, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                  Did you actually bother to read what else she has posted?

                                  Of course not.

                                  “ ooooh im angry “

                                  Guess what it’s been deleted by the skank.

                                    Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                    Posted by Godders on 3/2/2024, 10:20:46, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                    How can I possibly answer that question when all we've been given is opinion, hearsay, and general points. Even if I had all the facts to hand - which actually none of us do - then I'm not even sure it's my place to comment on specific situations which is why in any news points I always make general points about how society should behave rather than make judgements on specific cases. I always err on the side of compassion as that is my nature. And, yes, I wish more people would do so. And yes, again this a general point.

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                                    Posted by Just saying on 3/2/2024, 9:45:32, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                    So is that a yes or no? I don’t suppose you’ll answer that.

                                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                Posted by Just saying on 3/2/2024, 8:59:24, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                Says the man that was tarring all Everton fans with the same brush last week, when it suits eh?

                                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                  Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 8:57:47, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                  +1 Godders.
                                  I cannot believe a sane mind contoured up that total fantasy of a diatribe

                                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                  Posted by O on 3/2/2024, 8:56:16, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                  So you don't think there are a growing number getting offended on behalf of others when there is no need to? The ridiculously OTT reaction from some is very much a sad indictment of society.

                                    Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                    Posted by Godders on 3/2/2024, 8:58:24, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                    But ask the question why is that happening? That was what my post was referring to. Getting to the cause and not just getting disgusted by the actions.

                                      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                      Posted by Godders on 3/2/2024, 9:23:40, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                      O come, all ye faithful
                                      Joyful and triumphant
                                      O come ye, o come ye to Bethlehem
                                      Come and behold Him
                                      Born the King of Angels!
                                      O come, let us adore Him
                                      O come, let us adore Him
                                      O come, let us adore Him
                                      Christ the Lord

                                      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                      Posted by O on 3/2/2024, 9:08:09, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                      Because social media had given so many that would have been ignored in the past, a voice. Some of them have taken it as an opportunity to think and act like they're morally superior.

                                  Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                  Posted by Grimwood on 3/2/2024, 8:51:25, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                  You're okay then with the FA getting involved with people's private lives and judging them on their beliefs?

                                    Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                    Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:02:13, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                    The author of that work of fantasy has come forward with no more evidence than that which exists in his/her deluded mind.
                                    If I were to inhabit his/her ' entitled' mind I'd suggest laying off the weed, it can make you psychotic and/or paranoid.

                                      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                      Posted by O on 3/2/2024, 9:09:08, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                      How do you know its Fantasy?

                                        Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                        Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:13:57, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                        Initially, he has no documentary evidence to back it up.
                                        Would you believe him if he said the earth was flat?
                                        Are you not actually believing because you want to believe?
                                        I can understand that; it's much easier being able to say the first thing that comes into your head without fear of consequences.
                                        Bring me the evidence, verifiable, that this is happening and I'll apologise.

                                          Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                          Posted by O on 3/2/2024, 9:16:36, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                          What makes your point of view any more believable than the OP? Show us some proof it was a made up 'fantasy'. You can't.
                                          You're sort of proving my point about some using social media to act morally superior.

                                            Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                            Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:27:41, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                            Slow down here. The burden of proof is on the author.
                                            How can I possibly produce evidence to refute an accusations that has been presented without evidence?
                                            I can't argue about something that doesn't exist.

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                                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/2/2024, 9:15:10, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                            So what, you're saying Toby Young/that Linzi bird are making it all up?

                                              Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                              Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:35:58, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                              Give me the proof they're not.
                                              If they're innocent, then drivel like that novel just posted is not going to help.
                                              Honestly, the best deterrent for the Though Police is silver foul on an aluminium cola der, worn as a helmet. It foils aliens too.

                                                Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                                Posted by Doctor Ince on 3/2/2024, 9:59:12, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"


                                                How can I. The article clearly states they've seen the files. They're not going to share a pdf of them are they FFS. Do you read every newspaper and say 'that must be bollocks because they haven't given me their sources number so I can verify it directly?'

                                                I can well believe it happened, but equally she must've posted so pretty bad stuff for it to get that far

                                          Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                          Posted by Grimwood on 3/2/2024, 9:06:12, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                          Why was she interviewed under caution by the police? What crime did they imagine she had committed?

                                          Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                          Posted by Godders on 3/2/2024, 8:56:57, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                          Did I say that?

                                        Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                        Posted by X on 3/2/2024, 8:49:55, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"



                                        What a cunt

                                    Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                    Posted by Grimwood on 3/2/2024, 8:41:50, in reply to "Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                    The FA are now the Thought Police.

                                    The actual Police are only interested if someone's feelings have been hurt.

                                      Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all

                                      Posted by Madpig on 3/2/2024, 9:09:17, in reply to "Re: Apologies for the long post but this affects us all"

                                      I hate to be a bringer of bad tidings, but the world has changed.
                                      We no longer have an Empire
                                      We no longer have slaves
                                      We're now considered to be grown up, therefore aware of the feelings of others.
                                      Being white, Christian British no longer gives us the right to take

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