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    Food for thought?

    Posted by Speculator on 9/1/2024, 19:30:44

    https://www.oakroadhatter.com/post/budget-mid-range-or-premium-unveiling-three-striking-options-that-could-fire-luton-town-to-safety

      Re: Food for thought?

      Posted by TCasualT on 10/1/2024, 14:20:11, in reply to "Food for thought?"

      What a terrible article, was all over them pre season even sending the link to others but that is utter tripe!

      Not even in the top 5 of League 2 Strikers - Nonsense, people seem to have forgotten we are sitting at the top table now

      Overpaid unproven Free Agent - His inflated ego and self-worth after playing in Fantasy leagues means he won't even entertain anything near what we can pay him, nor should we guys scored 19 goals in 114 games for some medicorce teams in Europe... AVOID

      Last and only option that makes any sense - Albeit if it was written in August. They paid over 12m for him less than 6 months ago and has been woeful, if we wanted him that much think we would have moved in Summer window!

        Re: Food for thought?

        Posted by Herts Hatter on 9/1/2024, 21:15:41, in reply to "Food for thought?"

        Its a nice website that - good to see Luton getting more of an online presence. As to the article I don't see either of the 3 as an option. The second lad is on £60k a week and is not proven. Akpom is I think a good player - but a big gamble for someone who has not played in the PL for a club with our limited resources. I think if you had say a £6m player aged about 23- 25 who was playing in decent league abroad and scoring goals that might be a good candidate if he was say £15k a week for example. Maybe German league would be a good place to look as the closest thing to PL I think

          Re: Food for thought?

          Posted by Speculator on 10/1/2024, 10:51:56, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

          🎉🎉🎉🍾🍾🍾
          At last, someone has thought about what they're about to say.
          Nice one👍
          As I see it, there's no way we will infringe our wage structure ,FFP are stalking the corridors of clubs now.
          Do we need a striker? Well yes, of course, if it's an upgrade, but that goes with any position on the pitch.
          Will we sign a striker? Now that's the $64,000 question. We have three good strikers, with Elijah becoming increasingly confident and effective.
          Morris,to me,is just one good game away from regaining his confidence.
          Brown looks sharp, but again, he's never had a ' blinder'
          The big enigma is Woodrow. Now I know the Woodrow haters out there will froth at the mouth on this,but unless something physically drastic has happened to him, there's an extremely talented player in there,but will that talent shine.
          Having said all that, if we sign a striker for the second half of the season he's going to have to be at Premiership speed, both of thought and action, otherwise it's a signing for the future

            Re: Food for thought?

            Posted by Vladimir Luton on 10/1/2024, 12:11:02, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

            Premiership?

            How fast is a game of rugby these days? Or are you talking about Scotland?

              Re: Food for thought?

              Posted by Hmmm on 10/1/2024, 11:51:51, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

              At last, someone who agreed with the clickbait article.

              There, I changed if for you Lewis.

            Re: Food for thought?

            Posted by LMS on 9/1/2024, 20:16:15, in reply to "Food for thought?"

            So on the day we let one proven League 2 striker leave on loan you think another from League 2 is the answer????

            He is actually a good player but is it fair to expect him to be Premier League ready?

              Re: Food for thought?

              Posted by Spectator on 9/1/2024, 20:24:26, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

              I don't actually ' believe ' anything. The subject was ' food for thought'
              I didn't write it, I'm just trying to encourage some civilised conversation on the piece.
              My sincerest apologies if posting it has offended you

                Re: Food for thought?

                Posted by LMS on 9/1/2024, 20:29:37, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                I see the logic on the suggestion and I appreciate where the article came from.

                However I think we need a proven forward and that is going to cost significant money and I am not sure the club has the appetite to do that.

                Maybe there is some collective glumness about where we are now headed.

                Sorry.

                  Re: Food for thought?

                  Posted by Spectator on 9/1/2024, 20:42:10, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                  I'm certainly not glum, but yes , I agree, at this moment in time , if a striker is what we need, then he has to be a proven one

                    Re: Food for thought?

                    Posted by Eh? on 9/1/2024, 20:43:26, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                    Proven where? In the PL? You funding it then?

                      Re: Food for thought?

                      Posted by Spectator on 9/1/2024, 20:56:39, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                      What are you on about? I've apologised once, but it ain't happening again.
                      This is speculation. I assume you've looked up the meaning of the word?
                      None of us have any idea if cash, or how much,if any, is available. Fortunately, speculation costs f*ck all, so I'm not spending money the club ain't got.
                      However, let's assume eh? You know what assume means I assume? So let's assume maybe there is cash available. Therefore, let's amuse ourselves guessing where it might get spent

                        Re: Food for thought?

                        Posted by Hahaha!!! on 9/1/2024, 20:59:22, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                        🤣🤣🤣🤣 you utter fanny🤣🤣🤣🤣

                        Re: Food for thought?

                        Posted by GCR on 9/1/2024, 20:45:13, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                        Why can’t the club fund it????

                        Why are we suddenly without cash for purchases?

                          Re: Food for thought?

                          Posted by crumpsall on 9/1/2024, 22:24:08, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                          Er, who says we are apart from some people making unfounded speculations on here amd elsewhere?

                          And why has Spectator's perfectly reasonable post descended into garbage again?

                          I'm with him on his post below - feeling upbeat about our learning curve, performances and acquisitions and positive about the future. As are most of my football mates and chums.

                          COYRRMFH

                            Re: Food for thought?

                            Posted by Speculator on 10/1/2024, 10:35:43, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                            Crumpsall, I never expected anything other than a descent into a playground squabble.
                            Quite stupidly, I hoped,for once, to get some adult input, but virtually the first response was juvenile.
                            C'est lá vie 😑

                              Re: Food for thought?

                              Posted by Madpig on 10/1/2024, 13:37:04, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                              Nice to see the noughties keyboard warriors still thrive

                                Re: Food for thought?

                                Posted by MCR on 10/1/2024, 11:00:22, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                Aren’t there obvious challenges here?

                                1. All players suggested are unproven at this level.
                                2. All players will require some form of additional expenditure. Where is that coming from?
                                3. To take new players we need to make spaces in the 25.
                                4. One has name too similar to a livid forum regular.

                                So while it’s a reasonable set of suggestions the reality is that replacing Taylor with another player from League 2 would seem risky.

                                Martinez wants serious money and Chuba is a risk based on his time in the Dutch league, can he step up to the PL if he can’t in Holland.

                                My other concern is that we are playing Alfie out of position on Friday, crazy in such an important game.

                                  Re: Food for thought?

                                  Posted by Speculator on 10/1/2024, 11:02:34, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                  Good post, see my post of today near the top

                                Correction

                                Posted by crumpsall on 9/1/2024, 22:39:40, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                I meant Speculator

                                Re: Food for thought?

                                Posted by Eh? on 9/1/2024, 20:53:08, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                How much is a proven PL striker then?

                            Re: Food for thought?

                            Posted by Ches Fordroad on 9/1/2024, 20:32:26, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                            I don't see much "collective glumness about where we are now headed". Just from you and LNER. Who definitely aren't the same person, I'm sure.

                              Re: Food for thought?

                              Posted by Speculator on 9/1/2024, 20:44:44, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                              I'm actually feeling upbeat about our season. We're learning at a fast rate and we're close to escape hatch.

                        Re: Food for thought?

                        Posted by NHHatter on 9/1/2024, 19:56:51, in reply to "Food for thought?"

                        There's some interesting conjecture there, but I can't see Akpom signing, and as for up and coming strikers, if we need one, then it must be one who can manage Premiership football straight away

                          Re: Food for thought?

                          Posted by LNER on 9/1/2024, 20:12:36, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                          Critical couple of weeks.

                          Are the club serious about trying to stay up or not?

                          Or is the money left still all for the new ground?



                            Re: Food for thought?

                            Posted by Since 57 on 9/1/2024, 20:33:15, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                            Spending is not necessarily the answer. Look how much Burnley have spent and they are below us. Spending ten million on a striker doesn’t guarantee he will get you the necessary goals.

                              Re: Food for thought?

                              Posted by Ches Fordroad on 9/1/2024, 20:38:19, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                              I'd bet than LMS/LNER was posting this sort of shite this time last year, telling us all how the club needed to splash the cash to show us they were serious about promotion

                                Re: Food for thought?

                                Posted by GCR on 9/1/2024, 20:44:24, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                But we did do things in January that took us up.

                                Does that need money, probably as it would be quite an ask to do that via loans this time.

                                Marv is injured long term. Locks probably the same.

                                So we need min two immediate first team replacements.

                                Plus cover at full back and a forward to help Eli.

                                If we can do for nothing then great but to bury your head and think we didn’t do anything this time last year is wrong.

                                  Re: Food for thought?

                                  Posted by Oh FFS on 9/1/2024, 20:54:46, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                  Shut up Cuba, with your tedious shit routine.

                                    Re: Food for thought?

                                    Posted by GCR on 9/1/2024, 21:01:38, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                    Why can’t I ask a question about how we are covering two massive players for us with our drawing your petty abuse?

                                    Have I sworn or been offensive??

                                    We have a massive game on Friday and a huge hole in midfield.

                                    Our right back is in Africa.

                                    Morris is way off the pace.

                                    But you say don’t worry????


                                      Re: Food for thought?

                                      Posted by Ches Fordroad on 9/1/2024, 21:15:21, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                      That "huge hole in midfield" didn't seem to be a massive problem against Newcastle or Sheffield United.

                                      At least you've admitted to being a multi. Shame your imagination doesn't extend beyond thinking up the next posting name.

                                        Re: Food for thought?

                                        Posted by MCR on 9/1/2024, 21:20:47, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                        We can’t expect to get away with that hole for the rest of the season and you know that as well as I do.

                                          Re: Food for thought?

                                          Posted by Ches Fordroad on 9/1/2024, 21:24:38, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                          I don't even know who you are.

                                          Nor do you, judging by the number of times you've renamed on this thread alone.

                                        Re: Food for thought?

                                        Posted by Oh FFS on 9/1/2024, 21:04:50, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                        You're either a really, really shit routine or absolutely fukin MENTAL.

                                          Re: Food for thought?

                                          Posted by GCR on 9/1/2024, 21:11:01, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                          The later I guess.

                                          Still if it makes you feel better to take the piss.

                                          And how about having an opinion rather than trying to be superior?

                                          I’ve had my life, I just want the club to keep doing well so the next generations can enjoy what I did as a kid.

                                          The lack of progress on the ground and lack of planning in the squad is doing my head in.

                                          Is playing Alfie out of position and Giles at left wing back really realistic in a huge game on Friday???


                                            Re: Food for thought?

                                            Posted by Oh FFS on 9/1/2024, 21:13:54, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                            I suggest you make an appointment with your GP in the morning if you're getting so LIVID about our football club. Especially as it is currently in it's best position in it's history.

                                              Re: Food for thought?

                                              Posted by GCR on 9/1/2024, 21:16:03, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                              That’s a brave statement.

                                              I’d say 1958 and 1986.

                                              And when we signed Paul Walsh, for the brief period after that.

                                                Re: Food for thought?

                                                Posted by Ches Fordroad on 9/1/2024, 21:26:02, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                So you thought we were in a better place when we had John "Milton Keynes" Smith and David Evans at the club?

                                                  Re: Food for thought?

                                                  Posted by Oh FFS on 9/1/2024, 21:22:23, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                  I was taking off the field matters into account.
                                                  Why haven't you answered the question above?
                                                  How much is a proven PL striker?

                                                    Re: Food for thought?

                                                    Posted by MCR on 9/1/2024, 21:29:38, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                    Plenty of value in the Championship but we should have done that in August.

                                                    Brown wasn’t a goalscorer, hard worker but not a Walsh.

                                                    Time for my tablet.

                                                    Good night.

                                                      Re: Food for thought?

                                                      Posted by Oh FFS on 9/1/2024, 21:38:48, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                      You turn the tables at every opportunity. You can't answer the question, you were talking about a proven PL striker now you've changed to the championship.
                                                      I very come to the conclusion I was wrong before. You are actually a shit routine AND fuking mental.

                                                        Re: Food for thought?

                                                        Posted by MCR on 9/1/2024, 21:50:12, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                        Can I name a proven PL striker who we are able or willing to afford?

                                                        I would return Kabore and controversially Albert too and try for Reiss Nelson.

                                                        Leaving another slot for a defender.

                                                        And try for Mata…..




                                                          Re: Food for thought?

                                                          Posted by Doctor Ince on 10/1/2024, 9:13:26, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                          Why Mata? He doesn't fit how we play and I'm not sure who he replaces.

                                                            Re: Food for thought?

                                                            Posted by MCR on 10/1/2024, 9:19:44, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                            If the first 70 minutes v Chelsea and Sunday was an example of “how we play” then I don’t think it matters where he plays we just need more quality to call on.

                                                            If Barkley gets injured or suspended we are left to rely on who?

                                                            Albert has had one and half decent games, and is still an injury concern based on his history.

                                                            Pelly as much as we all love him isn’t anywhere near the player Marvellous is.

                                                            Our supposed first choice right wing back is away in Africa.

                                                            Adding quality in January is surely prudent?

                                                            I just don’t think we can take risks on unproven players now.

                                                              Re: Food for thought?

                                                              Posted by Doctor Ince on 10/1/2024, 14:28:04, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                              I agree we need cover and possibly an upgrade on Kabore.

                                                              Nakambas injury is a worry which is why I wouldn't send Lokonga back, especially as he seems to work well with Barkley.

                                                              You can't get away with just chucking players on the pitch. Mata cant do most of the things Barkley does for us, and never has been able to. If we play him then we do it out wide, but he will offer no pressing or defensive cover

                                                            Re: Food for thought?

                                                            Posted by jimmyp on 10/1/2024, 7:34:43, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                            My, that's got to be some tablet.

                                                            Cheers, Jim

                                                      Re: Food for thought?

                                                      Posted by Madpig on 9/1/2024, 21:20:12, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                                      Different times. Great times, but different times.
                                                      This is a big place We're in now, and we're doing well.

                                            Re: Food for thought?

                                            Posted by Ches Fordroad on 9/1/2024, 20:54:08, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                            Yeah but you were blubbing 12 months ago that we needed 5-6 new players in and only got 2 and that it would cost us

                                        Re: Food for thought?

                                        Posted by NH Hatter on 9/1/2024, 20:28:53, in reply to "Re: Food for thought?"

                                        I'm sure everyone is serious about staying up, I guess it's in all of us to speculate as to how.
                                        Personally, the first two on that list would not be our salvation in the Premiership and I doubt we'd pay the wages Akpom would need

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