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Posted by #thickelectorate on 12/12/2023, 19:25:42

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/11/next-uk-election-set-to-be-most-unequal-in-60-years-study-finds

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Posted by It’s that idiot on 13/12/2023, 7:23:17, in reply to "Interesting..."

The Loner

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 21:09:19, in reply to "Interesting..."

Don’t worry mate …Labour will win by a country mile….

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 15:26:36, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Great!! All immigrants problem solved!!

Pay up British tax payer!!

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Posted by Remoaner on 13/12/2023, 17:01:00, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

700,000 under the Tories the last recorded year Adolf. ‘Taking Back Control’

UNDER THE TORIES

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Posted by Ha ha on 13/12/2023, 17:39:35, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Wanker!

Dry your eyes, scumbag

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 21:29:12, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Out of interest, what is their plan to stop the boats?

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Posted by Ahoy there on 13/12/2023, 6:18:30, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

As opposed to sending just 100 assylum seekers to Rwanda? Once that plane has gone, that's it. Where's the deterrent there.
It was commented on TV that if 59 dying in an attempt to cross didn't deter them, how would a free trip to Rwanda achieve it?
Stop the boats setting out. That's the way to do it

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Posted by Admiral on 13/12/2023, 7:21:59, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Exactly!
Get the navy in the channel.
Push the bastards back.
This country has been let down by the tories and Labour.

The k-plan has worked, unfortunately.

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 21:59:45, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Any idea on stopping 700k coming in rather than 30k on boats?

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:21:46, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Do you mean those legally coming in?
Also don’t you want to stop people dying trying to get into the UK whilst criminals profit?

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 22:26:05, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yes I do.

30k a year and this mob can’t/ WONT process them to create a smokescreen for the shite state we are in.

In the meantime they let everyone in and won’t tell us from where.

The BOATS the BOATS the BOATS.

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:30:03, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Interesting so you are outraged that this mob want to stop the boats (illegal) when many are dying in the attempt and criminals are profiteering.
Why do you think that’s ok ?

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 22:33:03, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

One died on a barge today and I’m not seeing any outrage about it.

It’s like they don’t care.

Let’s do safe routes and process them legally in France?

I mean you rather that than some dying by drowning.

Or would you?

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:35:41, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

So just to be clear you don’t want people trying to get here illegally , risking their lives and paying criminals money ?

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 22:44:04, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You’ve got it.

And also to be clear you would rather have safe routes rather than folk drowning?

I think we’ve cracked it.

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:48:31, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Of course .
So to answer your previous question they are already allowed to apply in France via a process .
The poor fucker who died today committed suicide so please don’t use that for political gain…

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Posted by Chested on 13/12/2023, 15:28:32, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Isn’t that what you are doing?

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Posted by Yes really. on 12/12/2023, 22:52:20, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

wtf.

So you won’t all migration to stay in France despite us causing much of this crisis by bombing the shit out of countries?

I remember reading the daily mail gang comments on drowning migrants thank you. Try not to make political gain out of it.

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:53:59, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

None of that makes sense….
Have a nice night.

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 22:54:58, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You too.

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 21:35:55, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Who are you asking that question to?

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 21:42:17, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Well I replied to you so take a guess!

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 21:51:29, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Ahh ok . If you mean the Labour Party I have no idea .
Do you know ?

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:15:27, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

No! That's why I asked. It appears that Labour voters are against Rwanda but don't seem to offer Alternatives.

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 22:19:25, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

1% chance of ever going to Rwanda.

Do you think that’s our em off?

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 21:59:15, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

https://t.co/kARJE6su8x

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:20:33, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

It's just a few sentences. It means nothing.

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 22:24:06, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You asked a question, it took seconds to find a very recent answer, but it appears you didn't want one really, Really?, did you?

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:27:55, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

A few sentences on twitter isn't really a detailed plan.

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Posted by The Queen of whataboutery on 13/12/2023, 0:37:56, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yeah but what about Kamikwase.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 22:30:09, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Do you really think it's a good idea for a government to declare it will ignore international law?

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 15:34:04, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Other countries break the law all the time, What are they going to do to us? Minus 10 points!!!

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 15:39:49, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Now you're being ridiculous.
We're not "other countries", we are one of the original signatories to the UNHCR, and it is disgraceful for any honourable government to think of breaching it.

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 15:42:18, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yes in the 1940s

Sir Winton Churchill didn’t know millions of immigrants would want to get in our country now.
How would he know about them leaving safe france in a dingy?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 16:06:20, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

It was established in 1950, when Clement Attlee was Prime Minister. You know, when we had a Labour government that established the NHS and ran public services for the benefit of the populace.
Do you know anything factual about the history of this country?

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 16:15:44, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Thank you for the history lesson

So that was set up 70 years ago, Time to scrap it

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 16:19:22, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Why is that, dimbo?
Magna Carta was signed over 700 years ago, but it is still the basis of this country's laws.

Just stop being an idiot, acting like a child."Waaah, I don't like having to obey rules!!!!!"

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:36:24, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

We're discussing the alternative, or lack of, from the opposition party. Please don't turn the conversation into a petty yeah but Tories thing.

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Posted by The Queen of whataboutery on 13/12/2023, 0:26:43, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yeah but what about Thick Lizzy and GBeebies.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 22:38:49, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

No, you're trying to justify the government acting illegally.

Rwanda has one of the worst human rights records in the world.

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 15:31:14, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

So why do Arsenal want to send their fans there? Do tell

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 15:36:22, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

What are you blethering about?
Are they proposing to send their fans to a refugee camp for an indefinite stay, with no return to the UK?

Because if not, there is no comparison.

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Posted by Chested on 13/12/2023, 15:38:16, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

So what’s your plan then NAG

How many millions do you want to come in? 700,000 last count
Happy?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 15:41:20, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Act within international law.

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 15:43:48, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

No

How many houses should we build for all the immigrants you want to come over

Last count 700,000. How many houses is that brains?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 16:08:56, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

So again, you don't seem to think this country should abide by international law.
Do you think its citizens should keep the law, or are you willing for criminals to rob your house?

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 16:18:31, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Because that is the same thing!!

We left the EU for sovereignty, Time to leave the outdated ECHR.

Or do you want Strasbourg pulling our strings?

Yes I know you voted for france and Germany to run our country.

Traitor to the People

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 16:21:54, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Oh dear, you really believe that, don't you, thicko.

We had as much input into European laws as any other country in the EU.

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 16:30:34, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You really do hate our country don’t you?

I am amazed you don’t want to live in an EU country?

Let’s be honest france Germany and Italy are all going far right because of immigration.

They probably wouldn’t want your pro immigration open borders everyone welcome stance Eh??

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 16:46:32, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Good grief!
Just because I dislike the incompetent, venal shower currently in charge of the government of this country in which I was born and have lived in ever since mean I hate it.
How on earth do you come to that conclusion?
Did you hate it and want to leave when we had a decent government that put people before profit?

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Posted by Cheated on 13/12/2023, 21:32:33, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You want Strasbourg to trump our goverment like they did with Rwanda

I want my government 100% in charge wether it labour or conservative, not much to ask is it?

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Posted by Remoaner on 13/12/2023, 21:42:05, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Like it was pre-2016 then Adolf.

And I keep asking you - how do you feel about Irish Citizens having more rights, both internationally and in the UK - than those of us born on the mainland? Go on…

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Posted by Well on 13/12/2023, 16:39:01, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

She hates you Gerbil.

We all do.

Now FOFF to Russia as they will like you and your ilk.

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:45:19, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

If that is your take from my posts on this thread, it is probably best to stop the interaction now. You're clearly not the brightest spark as I have not once tried to justify Rwanda. I have been asking for alternatives. Alternatives from your beloved Labour party. Apart from a few loose words on a twitter post, non of you have been able to show me anything. It is a shame you tried to twist my comments. I was genuinely interested.

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Posted by The Queen of whataboutery on 13/12/2023, 0:27:54, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yeah but what about the Eton Mess and Rees-Smugg.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 22:50:19, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Oh dear.
If you’ve seen what Starmer has been saying, he’s more likely to carry on with Rwanda.
Which is shameful from a lawyer.
Now, answer the question about whether you think it’s right for a government to break international law.

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Posted by No on 13/12/2023, 7:28:55, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

What’s shameful is flooding our country with crap from all over the world.

The polish people get a vote on immigration.
Our corrupt politicians don’t give us that choice.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 10:47:52, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You don't believe in abiding by international laws then?

This country has always welcomed refugees.

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Posted by No on 13/12/2023, 11:11:39, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

No, sod that!

Refugees ha ha.
Conning bastards, more like.
Why should we have to put up with that lot?
They’d be better off with their Muslim brothers.

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Posted by Yes on 13/12/2023, 11:41:25, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Ooh a racist.

I’d never of guessed.

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Posted by Dick spotter on 13/12/2023, 12:24:27, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Wet wipe

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Posted by Yes on 13/12/2023, 12:45:18, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Racist and proud.

Thick and proud.

God help us.

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Posted by Boo Hoo Loner on 13/12/2023, 17:41:23, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You have nothing to to be proud of, you stalker, creep.

Thickie

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 22:29:56, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Neither is the endless and variable verbiage about Rwanda

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:35:02, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Oh, you're doing the 'yeah but Tories' thing.

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 22:40:00, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

No, I am responding in kind to you

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:41:05, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Crumps are you now admin ?
😂😂😂

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 22:42:31, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I have friends in high places!

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:45:19, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

What Godders ….😂😂
aww thought you posted under the same name …shame on you.😂😂

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 22:52:32, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I do normally* but I thought as I was posting Peter Kyle's thoughts - just then repeated in online reports on the vote - rather than my own, it was fair to use his name not mine.

I don't think much of it as a 'plan' personally.

*not always, before Dr Ince explodes with excitement, but I always make it quite obvious- as I thought I had here.

Ps, I asked someone if they were you at Brentford! Bloke often with Abbo, big chap, beard and pork pie hat. He looked confused!

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:57:38, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I am only joking … just caught you and was amused.

I didn’t see Abbo at Brentford although was meant to …he is really my mates mate so I only see him if he does . I think that may have been the “Pirate” who doesn’t post often.

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:59:58, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

You going on Sat ?

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 23:06:09, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yep. Perhaps see you there as it's a smaller crowd!

Haven't thought about pubs yet, the ground is a bit out of the way

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 23:10:12, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

It’s not that far from the station but better pubs are the other way.
I will be on my best behaviour as with FIL ….be good to meet you.
Really disappointed with some of the shit on this board atm…particularly the crap BBB is getting from some clowns…posts are totally destroyed.

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Posted by Peter Kyle on 12/12/2023, 23:16:02, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yes, it's utter ratshit at times isn't it.

I'm hoping my real ale expert pals will come up with somewhere decent!

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 22:21:36, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

So you weren’t interested after all.

Bye.

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:18:06, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Haven’t we already tried all that ?

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Posted by MG on 12/12/2023, 22:44:37, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

No we've tried things like reducing; the border force, staff to process claims and the police for example but oddly none of that seems to have worked for some bizarre reason.

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Posted by The Questioner on 12/12/2023, 22:51:58, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I am sure you know that once they are in British waters we can’t turn them back so border forces etc are irrelevant.
We could give France a shit load of money to try and stop them…oh we have already done that .
Any other ideas ?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 21:54:31, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Serious question.
Do you think the people smugglers will tell those whom they are putting into the boats that they're likely to end up in Rwanda?

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Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 12/12/2023, 22:18:11, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Likely?

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:16:23, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

They'll already know. They have the internet in France.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 22:20:04, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I know there is internet available in France. Is ere internet in the backs of lorries and cargo holds in boats on the way?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 22:20:38, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

"is there"

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:21:50, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Do you not think they'll already know of the Rwanda plans? People talk.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 22:24:12, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I think you're desperately trying to put a gloss on this ridiculous idea.

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Posted by Really? on 12/12/2023, 22:31:50, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Pardon? Do you not think those waiting to illegally enter our country hear the news then?!

They'll all be fully aware of the Rwanda plans. Unfortunately too many being PC are blocking it yet not offering a viable alternative.

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Posted by Yes really on 12/12/2023, 22:34:56, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

it’s like reading Alan Partridges diary.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/12/2023, 22:33:59, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I'll ask again.
Are you happy with our government planning to break international law?

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Posted by clarky on 12/12/2023, 23:46:51, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

I Am

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 10:49:56, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

So you'd rather the UK was a rogue state?

Do you pick and choose which of this country's laws you abide by?

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Posted by clarky on 13/12/2023, 11:12:02, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Yes

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/12/2023, 14:34:47, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

Which ones do you not abide by?
And for what ridiculous reason?

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Posted by Looney spotter on 12/12/2023, 19:33:06, in reply to "Interesting..."

Kinda playing fast and loose with the word "interesting " ain't ya.

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Posted by 🤣 on 13/12/2023, 0:30:35, in reply to "Re: Interesting..."

🤣

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Posted by Abstaining Hatter on 12/12/2023, 19:30:20, in reply to "Interesting..."

Not for me.

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