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    Two Year Sentence

    Posted by Don't Stop Believing on 28/11/2023, 18:23:21

    And six year ban from football.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67557324

      Re: Two Year Sentence

      Posted by Bob Morton on 29/11/2023, 11:24:40, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

      Iím told by a qpr fan mate that he doesnít have to serve any of his sentence either as heís been on tag for nearly 2 years and that is deemed as served.

      How true this is I donít know

        Re: Two Year Sentence

        Posted by Big D on 28/11/2023, 21:07:40, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

        Absolute disgrace, the judge should hang his head in shame.
        The legal system in this country is broken, beyond repair.
        What an absolute sh@t show.

          Re: Two Year Sentence

          Posted by Rory on 28/11/2023, 22:01:43, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

          Pleaded guilty to a lesser charge hence the sentence.

            Re: Two Year Sentence

            Posted by EastEnder on 29/11/2023, 7:39:59, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

            I think the maximum sentence judge can give for unlawful wounding is 5 years presumably got less.fof pleading guilty..

          Re: Two Year Sentence

          Posted by Jimbo1 on 28/11/2023, 19:38:46, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

          Neighbour who knows the family obviously give a quite different account. Brian went into takeaway giving it large and aggressive, so he hit him once. And very unlucky for both parties..it happens all the time, though just shows you one pinch could ruin many lives.

            Re: Two Year Sentence

            Posted by Really? on 28/11/2023, 20:37:03, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

            He was hit with a bottle.
            Why have you completely made that up?

              Re: Two Year Sentence

              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 19:57:04, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

              It wasn't a punch. He chucked a bottle at him. And shouldn't have been anywhere near any Luton fan.

                Re: Two Year Sentence

                Posted by NorthLondonHatter on 28/11/2023, 20:53:57, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                It was a punch not a bottle.

                  Re: Two Year Sentence

                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 20:58:39, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                  Says who?

                    Re: Two Year Sentence

                    Posted by NorthLondonHatter on 28/11/2023, 21:16:20, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                    Says 1

                      Re: Two Year Sentence

                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 21:17:05, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                      That's not a reliable source.

                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                        Posted by NorthLondonHatter on 28/11/2023, 21:22:22, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                        So how do you know it was a bottle then?

                          Re: Two Year Sentence

                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 21:23:24, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                          Reports at the time.

                            Re: Two Year Sentence

                            Posted by NorthLondonHatter on 28/11/2023, 21:27:16, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                            Those "reports" were just the usual internet gossip.

                              Re: Two Year Sentence

                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 21:28:57, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                              So where did this "punch" originate?

                                Re: Two Year Sentence

                                Posted by EastEnder on 28/11/2023, 22:24:44, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                Ir was a punch. He may have had a battle in the hand he threw the pinch with. But it wasn't a jittle thet was thrown and hit Brian as people made up at the time.

                                All the eyewitnesses say it was a ou ch and not a thrown bottle.

                                  Re: Two Year Sentence

                                  Posted by French Policeman on 29/11/2023, 11:22:53, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                  Allo Allo.

                                    Re: Two Year Sentence

                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 22:28:02, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                    Ok, I believe you.

                                    I thought the reports were factual. Holding my hands up.

                                      Re: Two Year Sentence

                                      Posted by clarky on 29/11/2023, 1:47:50, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                      You've had a few bad days,getting everything wrong....what don't you understand

                                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/11/2023, 9:34:37, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                        At least I'm not a perpetual troll with nothing positive to say about any subject.
                                        And I don't bring personal attacks into threads about tragedies.

                                          Re: Two Year Sentence

                                          Posted by crumpsall on 29/11/2023, 10:33:55, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                          That's clarky for you. A nasty piece of work.

                                            Re: Two Year Sentence

                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/11/2023, 15:50:33, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                            Agreed

                                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                                        Posted by EastEnder on 28/11/2023, 22:33:43, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                        I think there was a broken bottle found by Brian.

                                        So quite possibly Ellicott threw a punch whilst holding the bottle. The bottle will have led some people to assume it was thrown.

                                        But eyewitnesses only saw a punch, not a bottle being thrown



                                      Re: Two Year Sentence

                                      Posted by NorthLondonHatter on 28/11/2023, 21:33:53, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                      It always was a punch. its just once the rumours and speculation start, there is no stopping it.

                                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                                        Posted by Genuine Question on 28/11/2023, 21:44:02, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                        How do you know that?

                                          Re: Two Year Sentence

                                          Posted by Bedford hatter on 28/11/2023, 21:42:41, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                          Does it matter how Brian ended up fighting for his own life ?

                                            Re: Two Year Sentence

                                            Posted by Interested on 28/11/2023, 22:16:40, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                            The court will have heard the details.

                          Re: Two Year Sentence

                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 20:02:01, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                          And furthermore, who is this "mate"?

                            Re: Two Year Sentence

                            Posted by Bruno on 28/11/2023, 20:03:26, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                            He used to drink in Borehamwood.

                            Not anymore it seems.

                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                        Posted by RM5 on 28/11/2023, 19:07:21, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                        I was glassed in the ear and neck, scumbag got 12 months and served 6, work that one out.

                          Re: Two Year Sentence

                          Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 28/11/2023, 19:05:04, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                          And the bastard won't serve all of that

                            Re: Two Year Sentence

                            Posted by Correct on 28/11/2023, 20:50:44, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                            But with a bit of luck, big Leroy will make him his bžtch

                              Re: Two Year Sentence

                              Posted by Interested on 28/11/2023, 22:18:30, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                              Oh dear!

                            Re: Two Year Sentence

                            Posted by Fife Hatter on 28/11/2023, 19:02:50, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                            As a Manager in a Scottish prison anyone under 4 years will do half, unsure if it's different down south? Tag maybe a possibility but at the end of the 2 years is shocking for such an act of violence....Criminal Justice system is floored

                              Re: Two Year Sentence

                              Posted by joey diconio on 28/11/2023, 18:54:05, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                              Unbelievable

                                Re: Two Year Sentence

                                Posted by Hatsworth on 28/11/2023, 19:37:54, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                Sadly, completely believable.

                                It seems to me that different rules apply if you happen to be going to a football match. Petty things yield the strangest of draconian punishments, but assault of a football fan seems to me a lesser crime than assault of anyone else. Itís almost as if the assumption is that, if you go to a football match, you are in some way automatically complicit in criminal behaviour so in part the blame is shared. .

                                Put it this way, if someone at ascot races, or badminton horse trials, or the London olympics, or the theatre etc got assaulted like Mr Rourke did, I simply do believe the perpetrator would be spending leas than a year in prison. But because the victim was a football fanÖ

                              Re: Two Year Sentence

                              Posted by deeuu on 28/11/2023, 18:46:09, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                              Would have expected 4 or 5 years but who knows how these judges work things out.

                                Re: Two Year Sentence

                                Posted by AI Bot on 28/11/2023, 18:40:24, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                                I don't know Brian the victim, does anyone know if he has made a full recovery? I am friends with a magistrate who tells me most people serve 2 thirds of their sentence these days, so Ellicott could be out in 16 months which seems to be very very lenient to me.

                                  Re: Two Year Sentence

                                  Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 28/11/2023, 18:46:17, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                  Or is it now 50% of sentence has to be served?

                                    Re: Two Year Sentence

                                    Posted by AI Bot on 28/11/2023, 18:54:44, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                    That's what I thought it is but they said it is usually 2 thirds.

                                      Re: Two Year Sentence

                                      Posted by Nope on 28/11/2023, 18:57:10, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                      Out in 9 months on a tag.

                                      50% of 24 = 12 then 3 month tag to leave 9 Iím afraid.

                                      Shocked if Iím honest.

                                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                                        Posted by AI Bot on 28/11/2023, 20:45:52, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                        Does it change for longer sentences? The chat I had was regarding someone who had got 13 years, but expected out after 2 thirds of that.

                                          Re: Two Year Sentence

                                          Posted by Nope on 28/11/2023, 20:55:34, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                          Yes over 4 years 2/3 and no tag but even they get out earlier with good behaviour etc.

                                  Re: Two Year Sentence

                                  Posted by MG on 28/11/2023, 18:35:42, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                                  Bloody hell.

                                  And people call for lifetime bans for "tragedy chanting".

                                  That is one incredibly light sentence for what he did and the damage and suffering that he caused.

                                    Re: Two Year Sentence

                                    Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 28/11/2023, 21:01:46, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                    I would hope QPR will add a life ban on top of the court order...

                                      Re: Two Year Sentence

                                      Posted by EastEnder on 28/11/2023, 19:41:39, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                      We all know he will probably only serve half that as well.

                                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                                        Posted by Random hatter on 28/11/2023, 19:33:30, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                        Don't worry he'll get whats coming one way or another.

                                        Re: Two Year Sentence

                                        Posted by Toddingtonsteve on 28/11/2023, 18:33:30, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                                        Not enough

                                          Re: Two Year Sentence

                                          Posted by Wilt on 28/11/2023, 18:32:13, in reply to "Two Year Sentence "

                                          A commensurate sentence? I don`t think so.

                                            Re: Two Year Sentence

                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 28/11/2023, 18:37:05, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                            Not at all

                                              Re: Two Year Sentence

                                              Posted by Bedford hatter on 28/11/2023, 18:42:54, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                              Letís hope his time is as horrible as possible

                                                Re: Two Year Sentence

                                                Posted by punch and judy on 28/11/2023, 19:21:44, in reply to "Re: Two Year Sentence "

                                                hopefully be in a cell with bronson

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