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    Impact subs

    Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 10:35:09

    Why does RE always wait untill we fall behind with substitutions and only try and make a real impact on the game after 70 minutes.
    The longer the season is going on the more I feel all these new signings are no better than last season's squad.
    Wolves is a must win game for me and we should be worrying about our game and not theres..

      Re: Impact subs

      Posted by Herts Hatter on 18/9/2023, 12:15:01, in reply to "Impact subs"

      We have signed a lot of rough diamond types. Personally I would have kept Campbell and Horvath. Chong/Barclay are not working yet

        Re: Impact subs

        Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 12:20:40, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

        Nothing worse than seeing Campbell in a millwall shirt

          Re: Impact subs

          Posted by Dave on 18/9/2023, 13:05:36, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

          Not that he did much in a Millwall shirt

        Re: Impact subs

        Posted by Bootin on 18/9/2023, 11:57:02, in reply to "Impact subs"

        You almost answered your own question. If we are not behind then the team is doing ok. When we drop a goal then we need to push forward more. Simples.

          Re: Impact subs

          Posted by RGDave on 18/9/2023, 11:47:47, in reply to "Impact subs"

          On a hot, close and humid day, our team had to work even harder in pressing a skilful Fulham team. Rob will learn from this. If he has to put three players on after an hour then so be it. I suspect we'll be needing a lot of fresh legs this season due to the amount of running and closing down and the quality of opposition we are playing. Remain calm. That's how we got here.

            Re: Impact subs

            Posted by SE1 Hatter on 18/9/2023, 14:18:10, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

            I actually thought he got it spot on, limited Fulham to very, very little and carved out some excellent opportunities on the break. The subs did well when they came on too. Deserved a point at the bare minimum.

            Re: Impact subs

            Posted by Zaphod on 18/9/2023, 11:41:12, in reply to "Impact subs"

            I'm pretty sure I've ready that 'these new signings are no better than last season's squad' about a dozen times on here early in a season.

            And yet, miraculously, we have been promoted four times.

            In a few weeks the posts will be 'what a signing, 2020 have done it again'

              Re: Impact subs

              Posted by Ches Fordroad on 18/9/2023, 12:00:37, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

              Seem to remember it being said about Allan Campbell a couple of years back, almost certainly by the same people.

              Now he's seemingly the player that single-handedly got us promoted last season.

              Re: Impact subs

              Posted by Fella in Carlisle on 18/9/2023, 10:43:29, in reply to "Impact subs"

              meaningless term- its just SUBS- every club uses them

                Re: Impact subs

                Posted by crumpsall on 18/9/2023, 10:42:54, in reply to "Impact subs"

                After four games you're coming to those conclusions?

                Thank #### you weren't around when we struggled at first in the championship.

                  Re: Impact subs

                  Posted by Tel on 18/9/2023, 11:11:18, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                  Thank god he wasnt around between 2009-2015.

                    Re: Impact subs

                    Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 10:45:29, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                    To be fair crumps I am starting to think it is going a bit like the Graeme jones era...
                    I like Rob Edward's but we all know it was nathan jones who built the squad.

                      Re: Impact subs

                      Posted by Ches Fordroad on 18/9/2023, 10:54:34, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                      What possession(s) exactly is it of Rob Edward's that you like?

                        Re: Impact subs

                        Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 11:02:45, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                        Honest guy but I would have started krul against fulham.
                        That number one jersey needs to be competitive.
                        Some fans bang on about horvath not being good enough but is kaminski any better?

                          Re: Impact subs

                          Posted by Grumpy on 18/9/2023, 11:27:32, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                          We donít have the players to go on the attack and blow away the opposition. We didnít do it last season and certainly wonít this season. We have to stay in the game as long as possible and then try and Nick it late. Hard work and organisation is the only way for us.
                          Do you really expect RE to come out and do a Scott Parker ?

                            Re: Impact subs

                            Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 11:35:58, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                            The best form of defence is attack.
                            Sorry but if we are going to go down I would rather had a go!
                            For me breaking up last season's squad was a big mistake. They may have not been the greatest individual players but they all worked superb as a team.

                              Re: Impact subs

                              Posted by Ches Fordroad on 18/9/2023, 13:12:51, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                              "The best form of defence is attack.
                              Sorry but if we are going to go down I would rather had a go!"

                              This you?

                              "We need to be tighter and stick to the basics."

                              https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/msg/1691859702.html

                                Re: Impact subs

                                Posted by The Outsider on 18/9/2023, 12:10:42, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                Sorry but if we are going to go down I would rather had a go!

                                We had at least four decent chances before they scored. With a bit of luck, we could have been two goals (or more) in front before they scored (a goal which wouldn't have happened if the referee had done his job).


                                For me breaking up last season's squad was a big mistake.

                                Of the eleven that started against Coventry, two were on loan and two are long term injuries. Of the other seven, four started on Saturday and three came on as subs. That is hardly breaking up last season's squad.

                                  Re: Impact subs

                                  Posted by HH on 18/9/2023, 12:24:59, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                  Exactly

                                  I know I've mentioned if before but the xG stats for the season are very different for us. According to that, we should be 17th in the League (ahead of Fulham, Sheff Utd and Burnley).

                                  I know people dismiss them as meaningless but it shows the performances aren't as bad as some are making out. Teams don't tend to outperform or underperform their xG for long....

                                    Re: Impact subs

                                    Posted by Zaphod on 18/9/2023, 14:39:48, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                    In November 2019 we were sitting about 8th in League One, but playing well. An xG analysis I saw then showed that we were much better than our League position. We all know how that season turned out.

                                    Re: Impact subs

                                    Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 12:24:44, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                    Sorry but the likes of pelly and Campbell need to be starting.
                                    Drameh could have signed along with horvath.
                                    The likes of Barkley are everything we never was.
                                    Not my cup of tea.
                                    As for the chances unlucky but at this level need to be more ruthless.

                                      Re: Impact subs

                                      Posted by The Outsider on 18/9/2023, 13:26:36, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                      Who says that we could have signed Drameh. He was in their manager's plans so, even if we had wanted to sign him, he wasn't available so we went elsewhere.

                                      Maybe Horvath's wage demands didn't fit in with our wage structure even if we did want to sign him.

                                      You say that we need to be more ruthless. The fact that we made four chances disproves your assertion that we just sat back until they scored and didn't give it a go.

                                        Re: Impact subs

                                        Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 13:44:46, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                        So he sits on the bench?
                                        What a waste
                                        Everyone else is benefiting nicely out of the club being in the premiership. I'm sure a deal could have been struck.
                                        Maybe these teams aren't all they are made up to be..look at afc Wimbledon running chelsea close and fulham getting smashed 5.1 at man city.
                                        Too much respect.

                                          Re: Impact subs

                                          Posted by Eddie on 18/9/2023, 14:06:27, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                          Exactly, giving them way too much respect. Fulham were misplacing passes once we started putting pressure on them. They have to give it a go and not stand off all the time.

                                            Re: Impact subs

                                            Posted by The Outsider on 18/9/2023, 13:59:21, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                            He isn't sitting on the bench - he isn't even in Forest's squad which perhaps tells you something.

                                          Re: Impact subs

                                          Posted by HH on 18/9/2023, 13:20:23, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                          Should have never broken up the Conference 13/14 winning team.

                                            Re: Impact subs

                                            Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 13:39:10, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                            At least one player made it...well maybe!

                                            Re: Impact subs

                                            Posted by Ches Fordroad on 18/9/2023, 13:16:08, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                            So basically everyone that isn't currently playing should be playing. I'm just surprised you don't want to see Jake Howells and Adam Watkins get a game.

                                            Remind me, just how influential Campbell was second half of last season? Yet in the minds of the likes of you he's become the player who single-handedly won us promotion.

                                              Re: Impact subs

                                              Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 13:40:02, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                              Scored against the scum thats enough

                                                Re: Impact subs

                                                Posted by Ches Fordroad on 18/9/2023, 13:46:27, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                So did Frankie Bunn and Steve Elliott, should we be giving both a game on Saturday?

                                                  Re: Impact subs

                                                  Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 14:12:51, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                  Bunn later went on to score six goals in one game so yes

                                                    Re: Impact subs

                                                    Posted by The Outsider on 18/9/2023, 14:17:35, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                    So, we should be playing 60 year old players because they once scored six. Joe Payne scored ten but it doesn't mean that he should still be playing. Perhaps we could sign Ted McDougall and play him up front as well.

                                                      Re: Impact subs

                                                      Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 14:29:43, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                      Tongue in cheek mate

                                              Re: Impact subs

                                              Posted by crumpsall on 18/9/2023, 13:13:10, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                              Hand your ticket over (if you have one) to someone who wants to watch then? Win:win all round.

                                                Re: Impact subs

                                                Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 13:40:55, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                I do want to watch and I'm entitled to my opinions.

                                                  Re: Impact subs

                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 18/9/2023, 13:50:54, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                  So are the people responding to you, including me.

                                                  Post shit, get some shit back

                                        Re: Impact subs

                                        Posted by bbb on 18/9/2023, 11:08:36, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                        Yes.

                                        Next question.

                                      Re: Impact subs

                                      Posted by bbb on 18/9/2023, 10:53:17, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                      Topping up from the weekend or were you down Spoons for opening?

                                        Re: Impact subs

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 18/9/2023, 10:49:26, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                        Oh dear

                                          Re: Impact subs

                                          Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 10:50:50, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                          It's a results business unfortunately

                                            Re: Impact subs

                                            Posted by HH on 18/9/2023, 11:00:44, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                            What would you do, sack him and bring in Sam Allardyce?

                                              Re: Impact subs

                                              Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 11:04:26, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                              No give him time but the messiah was always going to return one day.

                                                Re: Impact subs

                                                Posted by Rob on 18/9/2023, 11:36:49, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                Enjoy Huddersfield, Nathan.

                                                  Re: Impact subs

                                                  Posted by HH on 18/9/2023, 11:22:07, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                  The messiah managed one win in 8 league games at Southampton.

                                                    Re: Impact subs

                                                    Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 18/9/2023, 11:37:03, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                    However the messiah was the only one to knock man city out of any cup.
                                                    Southampton's loss.

                                                      Re: Impact subs

                                                      Posted by HH on 18/9/2023, 11:41:54, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                      Oh well.

                                                      You can always go and support Nathan?

                                                    Re: Impact subs

                                                    Posted by Since 57 on 18/9/2023, 11:20:56, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                    Oh dear!

                                                  Re: Impact subs

                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 18/9/2023, 10:53:23, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                  You're getting diminishing ones with your inane posts.

                                                  Seeya.

                                                    Re: Impact subs

                                                    Posted by OohAhhYa on 18/9/2023, 12:23:49, in reply to "Re: Impact subs"

                                                    What's the difference between an impact sub and a sub?

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