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I'm not a member so I don't know all the details. I'd like to think there was a professional relationship where anything can be raised at any time, in the right manner obviously. What we want to avoid is not raising stuff because the relationship is too chummy. I think I saw a quote from Tiddles who, in spite of the great relief that 2020 took over, said to GS on day one "We'll be watching you". Apologies if I have misquoted.
It's not about getting a ticket. It's about all my ST holding mates only getting a ticket in the gods when some people who go now and then got lower/middle tier. Only 7k season ticket holders. About 18k lower and middle tier tickets available.
That's TicketMaster, not the club isn't it? A right bastard of a situation: myself and mutual friends of ours who sorted my tickets (I was away from the morning after the Sunderland home leg, with no internet access) were literally on the back row of the top tier watching Orange Ants v Sky Blue Ants.
They did that block booking but it was a nightmare for them apparently - from what I gathered, rhey had to phone every one of them individually for details and payment.
I don't know any more than I've said. My tickets were booked by PP's sister C, arranged late at night as we were trying to get past road closures to a port and onto an overnight ferry. She had a mare with Ticketmaster.
Ticketmaster, not the Ticket Office. Therein lies the problem but the EFL and other football authorities are tied into them, and Wembley.
My original post was - It's not about getting a ticket. It's about all my ST holding mates only getting a ticket in the gods when some people who go now and then got lower/middle tier. Only 7k season ticket holders. About 18k lower and middle tier tickets available.
which is not a criticism of the club. I'll discuss reserving seats when I see you. But there's no doubt that the whole system needs to be changed. Representations have to be made through the proper channels. To do that, a sample of the experiences of fans needs to be gathered. However, suggestions for improvements can only be made when we know what the mechanics of the present system are.
We were in the very back row and felt detached from the celebrations after the on pitch fireworks. If you look at the photos of the players/2020 celebratiing and the upper tier is empty. The lower/middle tiers are still packed.
Did you actually read my original response: we were in exactly the same situation and felt absolutely the same. It was crap. C was given no options by Ticketmaster when booking.
I thought we knew the mechanics? All sales go through Ticketmaster. The only decision the club seem to have made is the 6 per ST holder one, which is definitely up for discussion as it's too many (we copied Huddersfield with that, knowingly or not), and the timing of the sales plan.
Every ticket C booked was through a Diamond Season Ticket in the first phase and we ended up with awful seats.
The correct channel for info gathering must surely be LTST?
Yes, I know that. It's been said about a million times. Not sure what it's got to do with how Ticketmaster released seats, which meant that many season ticket holders got crap ones.
But the obligation to buy upper tier was entirely down to Ticketmaster and their 'sales plan'.
When our own ticket office did the sales plan for the JPT Tiddles and myself and a couple of others were able to buy well over 100 together for associated bods, nearly all ST holders, and the Scandies. In the lower tier.
If you want to make a complaint the Trust is the appropriate channel. They haven’t issued a statement which suggests that no one has raised the issue with them.
When you say it was played out on here a couple of people were understandably upset but being the group this is I think all of them were sorted with tickets?
As an aside I found 6 tickets per st holder a bit odd but presumably it was to help regulars sit together. Unfortunately TicketMaster ####ed all that up, but that's nothing to do with the club.
"As an aside I found 6 tickets per st holder a bit odd but presumably it was to help regulars sit together. Unfortunately TicketMaster ####ed all that up, but that's nothing to do with the club."
TicketMaster were one of a number of dead cats being pointed at at the time. Coventry didn't have any issue selling their tickets to their season ticket holders on the first sales day. Their allocation was 2 per s/t.
There were no Ticketmaster issues when tickets went back on sale to the more than 5 games crowd when the allocation had been changed to 3 per purchase.
Whoever decided 6 was a good idea was responsible for the whole shambles. But it is unfathomable why Ticketmaster agreed to that number if their systems wouldn't be able to handle it.
The system plainly couldn't cope with the 6 allocation, Ticketmaster apparently didn't make the decision on the 6 allocation.
I trawled through their main supporters forum a couple of days after and there wasn't one comment or whinge about Ticketmaster etc.
Can the genie be put back in the bottle? I just wondered if any of the supporter representative groups had made any comment on the reckless 6 decision that caused so much carnage and distress.
Carnage seems an entirely over the top description judging by maybe half a dozen people getting upset on here - and none at all on the other boards I've seen - most if not all of whom were sorted by fellow posters. I must say however that I was pleased to be out of the country and not involved in the scramble. But talking to many people since, and reading back through pages on here, there's no evidence of carnage that I can see.
Will you be raising this with the Trust or club or are you expecting others to do that for you?
The threads were full of people complaining about tickets they might have bought, weren't entitled to buy or misallocated. Anybody raising genuine concerns about the clubs Sales Plan mk1 was jumped on by the I'm alright Jack brigade.
The Ticket Office had to work night and day for more than a week to sort out the mess, an almost completely self inflicted mess.
Carnage sums it up pretty neatly.
Do you want me to explain 'Can the genie be put back in the bottle'?
With all due respect, should this have been e mailed to all LLSC members? not all members go on Twitter or post on here, since iv'e been a member iv'e not received one bit of correspondence.
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