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I'd want to steer clear of W*tford. Leave them trailing in our wake.
I'd hope for Cov (also had tough times, great fans) and/or Royal Antwerp (absolutely top, top fans when they visited a few seasons back). Home or away, not fussed.
It just shows how difficult the conference is. A lot of the teams that managed it in our time down there and often recently have had relatively significant budgets well beyond the norm. Three up, three down definitely required in my view, it would have been a travesty if Notts County hadn't made it this year.
My harsh opinion is that even notwithstanding Crawley and Fleetwood's cash it remains embarrassing it took us so long to get out of that league with the resources and players we had available. You look at teams that have done it - Stockport, Sutton, Salford, Wimbledon, Barrow etc and it really doesn't seem that it should be so difficult.
I know where you're coming from, I used to find it incredibly frustrating that teams like AFC Wimbledon bypassed us.
However, in context in the 5 years prior to us going down and the 5 years after, the teams which fell out of the EFL took, on average 6 seasons to make it back, if they managed it at all. Some fell further down, like Stockport and some bounced back immediately, like Carlisle and Bristol Rovers. Some went bust completely.
In hindsight, I like to think our failures in the conference helped us. Helped us reset as a club and get the right processes and structures in place for the long term rather than trying to kneejerk back into the league on an unstainable platform.
Knowing what we do now I wouldn't swap our footballing journey with anyone's.
That is a very harsh assessment. The club was still learning to walk again (after Jayten, the FL and FA had kicked the shit out of the club to the point of death) for the first 2 or 3 years we were down there
Stockport are a reasonably-sized club and they went down to tier 6! So it can't be that easy
Wrexham are no minnow and it took them 15 years and Hollywood to get out. Notts - again, they're no tiddlers - took 3 or 4 years
Having said that, taking 5 years to get out of there was a bit longer than anticipated. I didn't expect to bounce back straight away but thought we'd be back within 3 seasons
Me too, but as EE says we were up against bent money for a couple of seasons. We also then struggled a bit with identity I think both with managers and our own expectations as fans. That's where Sir John Still did such a sterling job: he brought us all back together and galvanised the club. He also had a deep understanding of what it takes to succeed at that level and an almost encyclopaedic knowledge of lower league players.
None of those teams were rebuilding from scratch with a vast burden of debt.
Apart from Stockport, who took 11 years. Barrow took 49 years to come back!
Oxford are the nearest comparison to us in that they won a major trophy in the 1980's (though they have nothing even vaguely resembling our history, heritage and status) It took them 5 years to come back: they warned us of the quicksand effect and we poo-pooed them. They were right.
Oxford are the nearest comparison to us in that they won a major trophy in the 1980's (though they have nothing even vaguely resembling our history, heritage and status)
I was very bored the other day so I had a browse of a handful of other clubs' message boards/forums to gauge thinking on our promotion to the PL. I went on Oxford's and they seriously tried to claim that they are a similarly-sized club to us
All people look at is KR and the capacity and think that's it. No nod to history, no acknowledgement of the significant potential LTFC has, patchy knowledge of our story, etc. As Joe Kinnear said...
Funnily enough, it's QPR fans that seem most (grudgingly) impressed. And they hate us
Oxford weren't even the main club in Oxford until the early 60's. Oxford City were (we played them in the cup in 67, an away game moved to KR due to snow and conditions). United were Headington United and still are in my somewhat childish mind!
When you get teams like that and only one guaranteed promotion spot it severely impacts that league. It's so obvious that things would be better all round with three up three down but the clubs would never vote for it before.
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