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Players to be released
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/6/2023, 21:47:20
Rarely agree with Cuba but he did make a good point this week that we probably need to make at least 9 new signings.
He did get shot down a bit particularly when he said about the players that need replacing. I'm gonna put my head above the parapet and give my totally uneducated view of the players that I think we shoukd release.
And before I get a ton of abuse about the feelings of the players; They are in Vegas having the time of their lives. Doubt very much they'll get to upset about RR offering his incredibly amateurish views on a football forum.
Horvath - Not convinced he is worth the salary or wages. Decent keeper but not set the world on fire.
Freeman - done nothing really.
CMG - Sell him. Decent league 2 maybe league 1 level.
Muskwe - A very personal feeling. I think there is a player there. Loan out.
Berry - The toughest one. What a servant he has been for the club. Removing sentiment though, if he can't get in the first eleven at Championship, he has no hope in the Premier League.
Drameh - he'll go back to Leeds ir they will flog him for £10m plus. Out of our league.
Nkamba - If we could get him at £5M and on wages of £15-£20k per week, he would be our luxury buy.
Horvath - Not convinced he is worth the salary or wages. Decent keeper but not set the world on fire.
Somewhat unbothered. Bit been solid enough. Has bouight into the Luton Way. If we can get him for 1-1.5 million its worth a shot. Not in Forests plans. Even a free with a sell on is possible.
Freeman - done nothing really. Crowd pleaser and under contract. Suspect he will be loaned out
CMG - Sell him. Decent league 2 maybe league 1 level. Stepping up levels. Just not as quick as we are. See how he does pre season
Muskwe - A very personal feeling. I think there is a player there. Loan out. -one year left. But cant see it. He will do a "Kurt Nogan" and look out of his depth then go and score 20 in l2 and work up
Berry - The toughest one. What a servant he has been for the club. Removing sentiment though, if he can't get in the first eleven at Championship, he has no hope in the Premier League. - disagree. I wouldnt have been shocked had he left. But he has that touch and instinct. NOt a starter but a damn good sub. Fully deserves a chance
Drameh - he'll go back to Leeds ir they will flog him for £10m plus. Out of our league. - year left on his contract. Again a small fee plus sell on may be the way. Worth signing if the deal is rihgt
Nkamba - If we could get him at £5M and on wages of £15-£20k per week, he would be our luxury buy. - Villa would be happy with a million you would have thought. Not in their plans. Wage burden. He fits here
We need GK - covered above RB- covered above CB - to replace Sonny CM - Marevlous would fit the bill ST- we have 4
So at least 5 players, possibly 7 . All pushing for starts. 9 is too much unless you look at bench players
Woodrow is quality. As I've said before he reminds me of Teddy Sheringham inasmuch as he reads the game really well even if he isn't a prolific scorer.
Another way of looking at it is by asking how many of our best XI would get into teams we will be fighting against for midtable?
Let’s take West Ham as a random example.
Locks, Marv, Burke and Morris would likely be starters but no means guaranteed even for them.
Alfie, Eli and Gabe would be on the bench.
Clark, Pelly and Campbell may not get a sniff.
But tbh I can’t see how some of the others would challenge for a squad place for other teams and that has to influence what we do now.
Palace have had a couple of reasonable seasons but they relied heavily on loans to help them do that specifically with Gallagher.
Take the loyalty out of it and you can see we need to do more than just 3-4 signings.
Spend has to be capped so not to risk the stadium obviously but 2020 last summer gave Jones the funds to strengthen and we made two brilliant signings in Morris and Alfie but we didn’t start to gel until the signings in January, we have seen in Marvellous what an experienced PL player can bring.
I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are on almost of this.
I will just say though for the hard of understanding, of which you belong, the division we're in doesn't make any difference to how hard it is to get into our team. And we've already offered Luke Berry a new deal.
Of course which division we're in affects how hard it will be to get in the team. We're getting promoted, which means we'll be signing better players, so players such as Luke Berry are more likely to drop down the pecking order even further.
It's also possible to make a point without being rude!
I'm assuming that Freeman is still under contract as he wasn't mentioned in the released list. I think I agree with you about him inasmuch as he's not exactly set the world alight. He also seems injury prone. However, he's been an important member of the squad who have just won promotion so hardly useless.
I think you're way off the mark about Berry though. Irrespective about his ability he's earned the chance to play at the top level even if he's only a bit part player.
He isn’t an obvious Championship starter, so unclear how he can be in the PL.
Drameh is also a curious one, decent but certainly not worth £10m and we can do equally as well with one of a dozen or more full backs in the European leagues who wouldn’t think twice about a PL opportunity.
Can see Bree come back on a free to provide some extra cover.
Saints don’t rate him and we could do a lot worse than getting him back.
Ok I've thought you were some sort of troll or routine for ages but this has just confirmed it.
To be clear - just in the infinitesimal chance that you're not on the wind up
Power Court was, is and will be the future and security of Luton Town Football Club. It is and will be everything we need to compete going forward. We have exceeded all expectations to reach where we are now - but we've already won. The £160m or whatever is a prize that's already been banked. It pays for PC.
Every pound and penny we spend eats into that. What you are suggesting is completely and utterly foolish. You're suggesting gambling - and that is completely what you're suggesting - on a Football Manager scenario.
If this is a routine, consider me whooshed. If it's not, grow up.
Because Cuba's been banging this particular drum pretty much constantly and in the face of much more realistic logic over the last few days.
Yes, we need to enhance the squad. Are we going to do a Forest and sign a completely new team? No. For a start, most of the better players in Forest's promoted team were loaners who needed replacing. Are we genuinely likely to risk signing enough players to potentially dilute or imbalance our squad mentality? Are we realistically going to be blowing many championship clubs out of the water in terms of transfer fees or wages? Given that we're almost certainly the favourites to be relegated how attractive are we to prospective players when they're likely looking at a wage cut after one season?
Yes the stadium is costed and funded and it would be built anyway but the money we'll receive over the next few years is guaranteed and insulates us against another COVID or continuation and/or worsening of the Ukraine situation so we'd be stupid to spunk the lot on a gamble that we might be in a position to get a bit more.
To be frank, it absolutely reeks of the opposite of how we'd usually do business.
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