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    Players to be released

    Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/6/2023, 21:47:20

    Rarely agree with Cuba but he did make a good point this week that we probably need to make at least 9 new signings.

    He did get shot down a bit particularly when he said about the players that need replacing. I'm gonna put my head above the parapet and give my totally uneducated view of the players that I think we shoukd release.

    And before I get a ton of abuse about the feelings of the players; They are in Vegas having the time of their lives. Doubt very much they'll get to upset about RR offering his incredibly amateurish views on a football forum.

    Horvath - Not convinced he is worth the salary or wages. Decent keeper but not set the world on fire.

    Freeman - done nothing really.

    CMG - Sell him. Decent league 2 maybe league 1 level.

    Muskwe - A very personal feeling. I think there is a player there. Loan out.

    Berry - The toughest one. What a servant he has been for the club. Removing sentiment though, if he can't get in the first eleven at Championship, he has no hope in the Premier League.

    Drameh - he'll go back to Leeds ir they will flog him for £10m plus. Out of our league.

    Nkamba - If we could get him at £5M and on wages of £15-£20k per week, he would be our luxury buy.

      Re: Players to be released

      Posted by hat on 3/6/2023, 8:35:43, in reply to "Players to be released "

      Muskwe is crap mate, get rid ASAP.
      How does the logic you apply to Berry not be the same for Muskwe?

        Re: Players to be released

        Posted by The Questioner on 2/6/2023, 23:30:18, in reply to "Players to be released "

        Pretty much agree with all that except BerryÖnever be a starter in the prem but unless we sign lots of players would make the bench every day imo ..

          Re: Players to be released

          Posted by Nick NLPBH on 2/6/2023, 22:38:40, in reply to "Players to be released "


          Horvath - Not convinced he is worth the salary or wages. Decent keeper but not set the world on fire.

          Somewhat unbothered. Bit been solid enough. Has bouight into the Luton Way. If we can get him for 1-1.5 million its worth a shot. Not in Forests plans. Even a free with a sell on is possible.

          Freeman - done nothing really.
          Crowd pleaser and under contract. Suspect he will be loaned out

          CMG - Sell him. Decent league 2 maybe league 1 level.
          Stepping up levels. Just not as quick as we are. See how he does pre season

          Muskwe - A very personal feeling. I think there is a player there. Loan out.
          -one year left. But cant see it. He will do a "Kurt Nogan" and look out of his depth then go and score 20 in l2 and work up

          Berry - The toughest one. What a servant he has been for the club. Removing sentiment though, if he can't get in the first eleven at Championship, he has no hope in the Premier League.
          - disagree. I wouldnt have been shocked had he left. But he has that touch and instinct. NOt a starter but a damn good sub. Fully deserves a chance

          Drameh - he'll go back to Leeds ir they will flog him for £10m plus. Out of our league.
          - year left on his contract. Again a small fee plus sell on may be the way. Worth signing if the deal is rihgt

          Nkamba - If we could get him at £5M and on wages of £15-£20k per week, he would be our luxury buy.
          - Villa would be happy with a million you would have thought. Not in their plans. Wage burden. He fits here

          We need
          GK - covered above
          RB- covered above
          CB - to replace Sonny
          CM - Marevlous would fit the bill
          ST- we have 4

          So at least 5 players, possibly 7 . All pushing for starts. 9 is too much unless you look at bench players

            Re: Players to be released

            Posted by The Outsider on 2/6/2023, 22:46:04, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

            With players like Berry, don't forget that we will have nine subs next season so someone like him would still be handy to have on the bench.

              Re: Players to be released

              Posted by Nick NLPBH on 2/6/2023, 22:55:09, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

              9 subs, 11 starters and a squad of 25? That doesnt leave much room for injuries etc

              Re: Players to be released

              Posted by That idiot Cuba on 2/6/2023, 22:45:38, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

              4 strikers?

              We have two strikers.

              We then have a lad of 21 with a lot of potential.

              And Woodrow who scored a couple of goals and didnít look that effective. Woodrow isnít a PL player imho. Iím

                Re: Players to be released

                Posted by Godders on 2/6/2023, 22:49:46, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                Woodrow is quality. As I've said before he reminds me of Teddy Sheringham inasmuch as he reads the game really well even if he isn't a prolific scorer.

                  Re: Players to be released

                  Posted by Theophilus Carter on 3/6/2023, 10:57:01, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                  Spot on!

                    Re: Players to be released

                    Posted by That idiot Cuba on 2/6/2023, 22:51:10, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                    We will have to beg to differ on that.

                      Re: Players to be released

                      Posted by Godders on 2/6/2023, 23:04:26, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                      Yep, happy to be different.

                        Re: Players to be released

                        Posted by Kleeer on 2/6/2023, 23:31:55, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                        Another way of looking at it is by asking how many of our best XI would get into teams we will be fighting against for midtable?

                        Letís take West Ham as a random example.

                        Locks, Marv, Burke and Morris would likely be starters but no means guaranteed even for them.

                        Alfie, Eli and Gabe would be on the bench.

                        Clark, Pelly and Campbell may not get a sniff.

                        But tbh I canít see how some of the others would challenge for a squad place for other teams and that has to influence what we do now.

                        Palace have had a couple of reasonable seasons but they relied heavily on loans to help them do that specifically with Gallagher.

                        Take the loyalty out of it and you can see we need to do more than just 3-4 signings.

                        Spend has to be capped so not to risk the stadium obviously but 2020 last summer gave Jones the funds to strengthen and we made two brilliant signings in Morris and Alfie but we didnít start to gel until the signings in January, we have seen in Marvellous what an experienced PL player can bring.

                Re: Players to be released

                Posted by wordy on 2/6/2023, 22:13:57, in reply to "Players to be released "

                I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are on almost of this.

                I will just say though for the hard of understanding, of which you belong, the division we're in doesn't make any difference to how hard it is to get into our team. And we've already offered Luke Berry a new deal.

                  Re: Players to be released

                  Posted by Jon on 2/6/2023, 22:30:44, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                  Of course which division we're in affects how hard it will be to get in the team. We're getting promoted, which means we'll be signing better players, so players such as Luke Berry are more likely to drop down the pecking order even further.

                  It's also possible to make a point without being rude!

                    Re: Players to be released

                    Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/6/2023, 22:23:37, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                    As I said, my opinion is very amateurish and uneducated. It's football though and we all like our say.

                    You however didn't really say anything.

                      Re: Players to be released

                      Posted by Godders on 2/6/2023, 22:32:14, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                      I'm assuming that Freeman is still under contract as he wasn't mentioned in the released list. I think I agree with you about him inasmuch as he's not exactly set the world alight. He also seems injury prone. However, he's been an important member of the squad who have just won promotion so hardly useless.

                      I think you're way off the mark about Berry though. Irrespective about his ability he's earned the chance to play at the top level even if he's only a bit part player.

                        Re: Players to be released

                        Posted by Don Logan on 2/6/2023, 22:30:31, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                        I actually think that Berry will be better in the prem, than in the championship.

                        I also think, if we can get him fit, Burke will be in contention for England, either with us, or if he moves on for silly money.

                        Only role I can see for Muskwe, is as a housemate for a mamba.

                          Re: Players to be released

                          Posted by The Outsider on 2/6/2023, 22:33:40, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                          housemate for a mamba.

                          A black one?

                          I know .... racist!

                            Re: Players to be released

                            Posted by Don Logan on 2/6/2023, 22:35:31, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                            Predictive text.

                            It wonít change Marvellous. I should have typed that.

                              Re: Players to be released

                              Posted by The Outsider on 2/6/2023, 22:38:40, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                              It wonít change Marvellous

                              Did it change it from Marvelous or did you spell it wrong in the first place

                    Re: Players to be released

                    Posted by Alky on 2/6/2023, 22:12:13, in reply to "Players to be released "

                    Muskwe!! WTF do you drink?

                      Re: Players to be released

                      Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/6/2023, 22:16:18, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                      I know 😄.

                      Basing it more on what I was told when we signed him. The coaching staff were more excited about him than any other player signed in that window.

                      Seen glimpses if that talent hence why another year to see if he can realise that talent.

                      Re: Players to be released

                      Posted by That idiot Cuba on 2/6/2023, 21:58:43, in reply to "Players to be released "

                      Thank you.

                      I would also add Fred into the mix.

                      He isnít an obvious Championship starter, so unclear how he can be in the PL.

                      Drameh is also a curious one, decent but certainly not worth £10m and we can do equally as well with one of a dozen or more full backs in the European leagues who wouldnít think twice about a PL opportunity.

                      Can see Bree come back on a free to provide some extra cover.

                      Saints donít rate him and we could do a lot worse than getting him back.

                        Re: Players to be released

                        Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/6/2023, 22:12:37, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                        Forgot about Fed but I agree.

                          Re: Players to be released

                          Posted by That idiot Cuba on 2/6/2023, 22:19:15, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                          I think we will be accused of being harsh or my case probably something even worseÖ..

                          However this is an opportunity to make at least £400m over two seasons, probably even more.

                          Once emotions have calmed we need to be rational and think about a 25 that can all play PL football.

                          Letís be honest about this, we donít want to be in a struggle from day one.

                          We want to compete and as I keep saying do what Brentford and Brighton and have done.

                            Re: Players to be released

                            Posted by wordy on 2/6/2023, 22:26:05, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                            Ok I've thought you were some sort of troll or routine for ages but this has just confirmed it.

                            To be clear - just in the infinitesimal chance that you're not on the wind up

                            Power Court was, is and will be the future and security of Luton Town Football Club. It is and will be everything we need to compete going forward. We have exceeded all expectations to reach where we are now - but we've already won. The £160m or whatever is a prize that's already been banked. It pays for PC.

                            Every pound and penny we spend eats into that. What you are suggesting is completely and utterly foolish. You're suggesting gambling - and that is completely what you're suggesting - on a Football Manager scenario.

                            If this is a routine, consider me whooshed. If it's not, grow up.

                              Re: Players to be released

                              Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/6/2023, 22:35:41, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                              Good point.

                              Why put it in such a patronising way though?

                                Re: Players to be released

                                Posted by jimmyp on 3/6/2023, 14:21:19, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                                Because Cuba's been banging this particular drum pretty much constantly and in the face of much more realistic logic over the last few days.

                                Yes, we need to enhance the squad. Are we going to do a Forest and sign a completely new team? No. For a start, most of the better players in Forest's promoted team were loaners who needed replacing. Are we genuinely likely to risk signing enough players to potentially dilute or imbalance our squad mentality? Are we realistically going to be blowing many championship clubs out of the water in terms of transfer fees or wages? Given that we're almost certainly the favourites to be relegated how attractive are we to prospective players when they're likely looking at a wage cut after one season?

                                Yes the stadium is costed and funded and it would be built anyway but the money we'll receive over the next few years is guaranteed and insulates us against another COVID or continuation and/or worsening of the Ukraine situation so we'd be stupid to spunk the lot on a gamble that we might be in a position to get a bit more.

                                To be frank, it absolutely reeks of the opposite of how we'd usually do business.

                                Cheers, Jim

                                Re: Players to be released

                                Posted by That idiot Cuba on 2/6/2023, 22:31:37, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                                Fair challenge but then I read this.

                                Says the money is already secured regardless.

                                The £170m will help but surely staying up would make it even easier?

                                https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/sport/football/luton-town/luton-ceo-promotion-to-the-premier-league-would-progress-but-not-accelerate-towns-move-to-power-court-4155320

                                Re: Players to be released

                                Posted by Ramridge Raider on 2/6/2023, 22:25:45, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                                I differ from you there. I think we build a side for 24/25. Give it a go next season but build for the future.

                                  Re: Players to be released

                                  Posted by That idiot Cuba on 2/6/2023, 22:28:54, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                                  Not sure we can take the risk and expect the team to stay together after getting PL playing time.

                                  For me itís aiming at staying up while doing this sensibly with the best we can get from the clubs we are leaving behind.

                                  E.g., Flemming

                              Re: Players to be released

                              Posted by Jimmy husband's wife on 2/6/2023, 22:04:04, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                              Saints fans, do rate him..
                              Horvath, if he was a jed Steer keep...but hey ho...
                              Berry, I think can be a good impact player..

                              Let's see, who RE brings in

                              Coyh

                                Re: Players to be released

                                Posted by That idiot Cuba on 2/6/2023, 22:06:36, in reply to "Re: Players to be released "

                                But certainly he wasnít first choice and was rarely in their squad even?

                                We could get him back cheaply I think.

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