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    World Cup 2026

    Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 9:34:33

    Why are we ok with America co-hosting the World Cup? Is it actually a safe country? There have been 95 mass shootings in 2023 so far and we're only 86 days into the year.

    Just wondering why there was all the moral outrage over Qatar but the USA seems less safe.
    Is it because America wasn't built on slave labour like Qatar?

      Re: World Cup 2026

      Posted by Newton on 29/3/2023, 14:09:10, in reply to "World Cup 2026"

      America not being built on slave labour is a Hot. Take.

        Re: World Cup 2026

        Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 14:13:27, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

        I was saying the opposite

        Re: World Cup 2026

        Posted by Nick NLPBH on 29/3/2023, 11:00:02, in reply to "World Cup 2026"

        Thought it was up to about 113 mass already

        (although the pro gun lot who seem somewhat rabid will tell you that you cant blame the gun, and that they are underpowered sporting rifles not assault rifles) .

        Its an issue that wont go away as many Americans will prefer to see their kids shot then consider gun control (way too late for that anyway). they also bizarrely think guns stop crime - and then deflect and say "well what about UK knife crime" (US murder rate per capita is 4 x higher than here)

        World cup is actually across America, Mexico and Canada. Canada by far the safest of the 3. On a safety aspect - not sure Brazil in 2014, or South America in 2010 or Russia in 2018 could have been considered overly safe

        Less moral outrage as
        1)The 3 countries do have the infrastructure -and in the case of Mexico especially a footballing tradition

        2)It wasn't quite as blatantly bought as qatar

        3)It doesn't have to be moved to winter

        4)there has been no suggestion of migrant workers being imported and discarded (well anymore than there are there already - but the stadia wont need to be built and then dismantled

        5)Their human rights record isnt quite as questionable (notwithstanding they like the right to be shot)

          Re: World Cup 2026

          Posted by The Outsider on 29/3/2023, 14:35:23, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

          Seems a bit unfair that South America hosted it in 2010 and then Brazil in 2014

            Re: World Cup 2026

            Posted by Nick NLPBH on 29/3/2023, 17:27:59, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

            Ha

          Re: World Cup 2026

          Posted by bbb on 29/3/2023, 9:54:40, in reply to "World Cup 2026"

          Regards the Nashville shooting a lot of the media seem more keen to talk about the evil, fuÁked up murderers preferred pronouns than the vile crime committed.
          Hence why the main problem over there will never be resolved.

            Re: World Cup 2026

            Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 9:58:59, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

            Yep - such a backwards country in so many ways

            Re: World Cup 2026

            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/3/2023, 9:51:40, in reply to "World Cup 2026"

            The shootings in the US are not usually aimed at tourists.
            They have the stadia and infrastructure in place.
            I hope you're being ironic with your comment about slave labour.


            Ditto "Morning"'s post below.

              Re: World Cup 2026

              Posted by Andy Cappucino on 29/3/2023, 10:53:02, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

              It's irrelevant who shots are aimed at, a stray bullet can hit anyone

                Re: World Cup 2026

                Posted by Vladimir Luton on 29/3/2023, 10:25:42, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                The Las Vegas shooting was very much aimed at tourists. 1,000 rounds fired into a music crowd. That was 6 years ago.

                  Re: World Cup 2026

                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/3/2023, 10:33:14, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                  But were they tourists from other states within the US?

                    Re: World Cup 2026

                    Posted by bbb on 29/3/2023, 10:57:29, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                    Does that matter?

                      Re: World Cup 2026

                      Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 11:06:24, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                      Apparently yeah, NaG is ok with it as long as it's only Americans being shot.

                      As long as she holds a UK flag up at a mass gathering shooters spraying random and indiscriminate shots into the crowd will aim for someone else

                        Re: World Cup 2026

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/3/2023, 11:28:06, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                        FFS
                        You do like to use your fevered imagination.

                        It must be that parasite treatment you've been ingesting.

                        (The last sentence is not serious, just illustrating the daftness of leaping to conclusions, at which you are Outlaws champion.)

                          Re: World Cup 2026

                          Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 12:15:30, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                          It's good to be champion of something tbf

                          Re: World Cup 2026

                          Posted by bbb on 29/3/2023, 11:15:51, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                          🤣

                            Re: World Cup 2026

                            Posted by Ah bless on 29/3/2023, 11:47:21, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                            Dumb and dumber giving out so much love.

                            He won't bum you. ( he is a taker Bertie )

                              Re: World Cup 2026

                              Posted by bbb on 29/3/2023, 11:59:14, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                              It's good that you're not bothered about me Tiny Tears.

                        Re: World Cup 2026

                        Posted by Vladimir Luton on 29/3/2023, 10:56:57, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                        Google says it was a country music festival so I reckon the attendees would have been mainly from within the US but not Vegas itself.

                          Re: World Cup 2026

                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/3/2023, 11:28:25, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                          Ok.

                      Re: World Cup 2026

                      Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 10:05:53, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                      Not usually? Oh that's a relief then.

                      There haven't been 90+ mass shootings in Qatar so it's objectively a safer country (unless you're in the LGB letters, but then some parts of America aren't that tolerant).

                      So Qatar is safer, both countries have successfully utilised slave labour and only parts of the US are less intolerant.

                      I'll get my protest banner ready

                      Re: World Cup 2026

                      Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 9:51:32, in reply to "World Cup 2026"

                      I think the reason for people expressing concerns over Qatar are very well-documented and quiet obvious. And it wasn't about safety of the participants or spectators.

                      I can't follow the logic that the mass shootings in the US are similar or directly relevant to the World Cup like the issues in Qatar were.

                        Re: World Cup 2026

                        Posted by HH on 29/3/2023, 10:27:58, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                        Playing devil's advocate - is football a bit hypocritical in that plenty of football teams (even England) seem willing to go to the UAE and Dubai for training camps even with their pretty appalling record for LGBTQ rights?

                          Re: World Cup 2026

                          Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 10:30:43, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                          I'd say it's a definite yes . . . similar I guess about the ownership of some clubs.

                            Re: World Cup 2026

                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 10:29:38, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                            ££££££££££££

                            Re: World Cup 2026

                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 10:02:25, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                            I would be much more concerned about being injured going to a WC in the US than Qatar.

                            Tbf no country is without its moral downsides so where do we we draw the line

                              Re: World Cup 2026

                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/3/2023, 10:36:46, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                              The only worry I'd have about being injured in the US is the cost of healthcare if it happened.

                                Re: World Cup 2026

                                Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 10:33:49, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                Fair enough, but you seem to be mixing up safety concerns and the reasons for the moral objections to Qatar as hosts.

                                I think the answer is along the lines of well we have to draw the line somewhere. And what happened in Qatar would not have happened in the US, for all their other faults.

                                Personally I'd actually be more concerned with what's happening here because the line is being pushed downwards at a disturbingly fast rate.

                                  Re: World Cup 2026

                                  Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 11:04:45, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                  The line is going downwards everywhere - although I agree it's particularly shite here.

                                  I do also agree with the rest, but of course America's human rights violations were historic.

                                    Re: World Cup 2026

                                    Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 12:41:58, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                    Yes, fair enough. To be honest I think we're spending a bit too much time and energy on historical issues right now.

                                    Not trying to trivialise them but we need to fix the future first.

                                  Re: World Cup 2026

                                  Posted by Bruno on 29/3/2023, 10:14:22, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                  Letís be honest. You wonít be going so not really worth the discussion.

                                    Re: World Cup 2026

                                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 10:24:22, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                    Probably not, no, Bruno old chum.

                                Re: World Cup 2026

                                Posted by Hawkesworth on 29/3/2023, 9:44:01, in reply to "World Cup 2026"

                                Yep, that will be why.

                                  Re: World Cup 2026

                                  Posted by Morning on 29/3/2023, 9:43:47, in reply to "World Cup 2026"

                                  Desperate for attention again? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

                                    Re: World Cup 2026

                                    Posted by Really? on 29/3/2023, 9:45:49, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                    Desperate to be snidey little coward again?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

                                      Re: World Cup 2026

                                      Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 9:58:33, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                      That's his way.

                                      Usually the first to moan about others being snide though

                                        Re: World Cup 2026

                                        Posted by jimmyp on 29/3/2023, 14:14:01, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                        My absolute favourite thing is when some tough guy hides behind anonymity to call someone snide.

                                        Cue aren't we all anonymous as if that hasn't been explained a million times.

                                        Cheers, Jim

                                        Re: World Cup 2026

                                        Posted by Irony Spotter on 29/3/2023, 9:56:26, in reply to "Re: World Cup 2026"

                                        😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏

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