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    Dr's appointments

    Posted by Fan on 29/3/2023, 9:00:36

    Rung for appointment regarding a stomach issue that I have had for 4 weeks, receptionist tells me I have to see a clinician rather than a doctor. I say the clinician won't be as qualified as a GP and would rather see a GP.
    That's not the procedure apparently, anyone else come across this procedure or is it something just my surgery is implementing?

    What qualifies and how do you see a GP these days?

      Re: Dr's appointments

      Posted by Peter Griffin on 29/3/2023, 13:45:02, in reply to "Dr's appointments "

      An old work colleague of mine had the same, the clinician diagnosed IBS, 4 weeks later after symptoms got worse was diagnosed with cancer. His funeral is next week. Very sad.

        Re: Dr's appointments

        Posted by Are you sure on 29/3/2023, 12:52:08, in reply to "Dr's appointments "

        "beating up on people" not sure what you are reading mate.

          Re: Dr's appointments

          Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 12:55:54, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

          There's plenty of it on Social Media in general, this particular thread isn't too bad to be fair apart from the obvious outliers, but there are no surprises there I suppose.

            Re: Dr's appointments

            Posted by Are you sure on 29/3/2023, 12:52:56, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

            Sorry should have been a reply to MG.

            Re: Dr's appointments

            Posted by Bilko on 29/3/2023, 10:34:38, in reply to "Dr's appointments "

            Common practice at my doctors practice (sorry)
            My Mother in Law was prescribed antibiotics 3 times without seeing her doctor. We got involved,couple of hospital visits later problem resolved.
            I'm going through something similar but luckily saw a doctor who was concerned and am now having tests at the hospital.
            Although clinical staff have their position if you are concerned see a GP and they might refer you.

              Re: Dr's appointments

              Posted by Bilko on 29/3/2023, 10:42:07, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

              Ps although needing a blood test urgently for a hospital appointment docs surgery earliest appointment was two weeks after the appointment.

              Re: Dr's appointments

              Posted by markus sathanas on 29/3/2023, 10:24:46, in reply to "Dr's appointments "

              My surgery employs 2 phyiotherapists, so if I have a musculoskeletal problem its quite easy to get an appointment with them. Anything a nurse can do gets directed down that route, I think they have 3 or 4. Getting to see an actual GP is virtually impossible unless you've already had X-Rays, blood tests, other diagnostics. I've had to almost declare war on my surgery over the last 2 months before They eventually surrendered and gave me a GP appointment. It was almost like winning the lottery

                Re: Dr's appointments

                Posted by Buzzard on 29/3/2023, 10:17:37, in reply to "Dr's appointments "

                They are pretty good in my experience. If its something they need to chat to the GP about then they will. But at least you are in the door.

                  Re: Dr's appointments

                  Posted by bbb on 29/3/2023, 9:34:18, in reply to "Dr's appointments "

                  Covid has given the doctors a very easy life. The receptionists,again since covid, seem to be on some kind of power trip. You're there to push buttons, tick boxes and answer the phone love. If you were a medical expert, you'd be on a lot more money. C¨nts.

                    Re: Dr's appointments

                    Posted by Andy Cappucino on 29/3/2023, 10:17:51, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                    Spot on

                      Re: Dr's appointments

                      Posted by Doctor Ince on 29/3/2023, 9:42:27, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                      Doctors receptionists have had a chip on their shoulder for years.

                      I get they ask for information for to give the the GP some context but they should also just take no for an answer

                      Re: Dr's appointments

                      Posted by Laststraw on 29/3/2023, 9:15:23, in reply to "Dr's appointments "

                      I haven't come across that reply from my surgery.
                      I must be lucky but haven't had any trouble seeing or talking to a doctor quickly on the day.
                      I ring at 8am a doctor rings back later that morning and more likely than not says come and see me later that day. Not sure if "older" people like myself get priority or whether my surgery is well run but I've no problems in that respect.

                        Re: Dr's appointments

                        Posted by Fan on 29/3/2023, 9:22:20, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                        I am 67 so it's not an age thing, in the past I have experienced the same service as you. The last 2 times I have tried to see a Dr I have been told its a clinician I have to see at another surgery, the Medici surgery in town.
                        I don't understand what ailment I now have to have to see a GP.

                          Laststraw

                          Posted by Fan on 29/3/2023, 9:40:53, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                          What surgery are you at?

                            Re: Laststraw

                            Posted by Laststraw on 29/3/2023, 9:43:21, in reply to "Laststraw"

                            Unless you live in Norfolk you wouldn't know where my surgery is.

                              Re: Laststraw

                              Posted by Fan on 29/3/2023, 9:47:15, in reply to "Re: Laststraw"

                              That's norfolking good then.

                                Re: Laststraw

                                Posted by Laststraw on 29/3/2023, 9:50:33, in reply to "Re: Laststraw"

                                😁

                            Re: Dr's appointments

                            Posted by since 63 on 29/3/2023, 9:34:18, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                            Mrs 63 phoned the doctor on Monday and was directed to the pharmacy and was prescribed a course of antibiotics for a chest infection by the pharmacist. if she doesn't respond to the antibiotics by Monday we will visit our surgery and stay there until we receive an urgent appointment.

                              Re: Dr's appointments

                              Posted by Fan on 29/3/2023, 9:46:10, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                              I did read some time ago pharmacists were going to be able to do this under new Government rules, but the danger of misdiagnosis must be increased.

                              Why can't GPs just do their job like they did before covid.

                                Re: Dr's appointments

                                Posted by markus sathanas on 29/3/2023, 11:11:36, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                Just a guess but the symptoms all point down a one-way street called 'Tory government'

                                  Re: Dr's appointments

                                  Posted by Vladimir Luton on 29/3/2023, 10:28:26, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                  Isn't there a massive shortage of GPs in this country? And with an aging population the demand has grown for primary care.

                                    Re: Dr's appointments

                                    Posted by Fan on 29/3/2023, 10:47:29, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                    Where have they all gone in the last two years then?

                                    Re: Dr's appointments

                                    Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 10:47:00, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                    Yes, apparently on average each GP is looking after something like 15% more patients and as you say, with an aging population and 2 million with Long COVID and so on . . .

                                    Yes some people still expect that they should be able to continue to just do the same job to the same level of service.

                                    Things simply don't work like that.

                                      Re: Dr's appointments

                                      Posted by Out of interest on 29/3/2023, 11:20:44, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                      Any facts to back up the 2 million claim?

                                        Re: Dr's appointments

                                        Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 12:45:34, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                        Only reports in the British Medical Journal and reports by the ONS etc. Google it, they are easily found.

                                        And of course we have millions awaiting operations and having to manage those conditions in the interim. I suspect that isn't helping, should have mentioned that.

                                        It just beats me that with so many obvious reasons why things aren't working people are just lazily beating up on the people left who are trying to still deliver some kind of service.

                                          Re: Dr's appointments

                                          Posted by Out of interest on 29/3/2023, 12:55:44, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                          I did as you suggested. There is no definitive answer. Depending on which source you believe it varies from 400k to 1.4m.

                                            Re: Dr's appointments

                                            Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 12:58:33, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                            https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1391

                                            Maybe they have more precise estimates now that are lower but the point generally stands that there are a lot of new pressures on GP surgeries. I don't think it's reasonable to expect the same levels of service as we had before.

                                              Re: Dr's appointments

                                              Posted by Out of interest on 29/3/2023, 13:05:31, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                              Mainly self diagnosed so a laughable figure.

                                                Re: Dr's appointments

                                                Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 14:11:46, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                                I think the estimate is based on a bit more than that.

                                                But even at your suggested low end of 400k it's another pressure on the system.

                                                  Re: Dr's appointments

                                                  Posted by Bootin on 29/3/2023, 15:03:11, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                                  No problem, just join a golf club and you are bound to see a doctor/

                                                    Re: Dr's appointments

                                                    Posted by MG on 29/3/2023, 15:52:07, in reply to "Re: Dr's appointments "

                                                    Sadly there's probably an element of truth in that!

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