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Nathan Jones position being reviewed
Posted by The Outsider on 6/2/2023, 8:26:32
talkSPORT @talkSPORT BREAKING: #SaintsFC owners Sport Republic are reviewing the position of manager Nathan Jones.
Several senior players are believed to be unhappy with the former Luton boss.
Thankfully we've appointed what appears to be a very good replacement in RE. NJ left for cash which when faced with huge money he cannot be blamed for securing his and his families financial future but......if you're going to go then surely its to a club not in absolute decline and chaos, he will be relegated(if not sacked by then). I feel for Bree as he has an opportunity to progress but I fear he will be loaned out in the summer and not see the premier league again.
Money will have been a big part of his move, but he is clearly ambitious and the opportunity to manage in the Premier League would have been so0mething that he would have found impossible to turn down.
The problem with that was that the only top flight clubs that would have been interested in him would have been those 'in absolute decline and chaos'
He could hardly be sitting around waiting for a "better" job to come up. It was clearly a big gamble for him after Stoke, but clearly he thought he could success where he'd failed before.
Didn't help that the club's supporters were dumbstruck that they were recruiting a manager from such a piddly, insignificant little club when they are one of the giants of European football.
On the basis that Southampton courted Jones, he really didn't have much choice. His ambition, understandable desire to put Stoke right, and let's be honest dictated that he would have to accept. The alternative would have been for him to be branded as lacking courage.
I don't have any problem with that. The issue is the extent to which the courting was really one directional.
Actually I don't really have that much of a problem if Jones was setting himself up for a move. He always said he wanted to manage Barcelona. Ridiculous obviously, but any more than saying - my dream is to manage Luton for the rest of my days.
And who wouldn't be calling for his head if we were struggling at the foot of the table this season.
Not really been that much interested in the Jones saga( part of me couldn’t care less if we lost at Grimsby, as a win , and then playing Southampton, would be totally overshadowed by the NJ connection)
For what it’s worth if he has gone by today, it’s nailed on he will end up at his beloved Cardiff.
Either way a win tomorrow, and not playing next round till March, means he would be probably gone anyway…, COYH
He can wait 6 months when the position becomes vacant again. He could also take a position in the Wales national team for a bit so he's primed to take the role when it becomes vacant at some point.
Well if he's looking for a bit of part-time work to tide him over he can always go to Watford for a couple of months. Some of their more special fans were calling for Bilic to go on Saturday.
Too many of their fans are Pozzo sock puppets - oh we owe the Pozzos so much, we wouldn't have a new main stand without them, look at our time in the Prem, cup runs, blah blah. RE was supposed to be a long term appointment but he was sacked on his first blip in results and the fans only reaction is to scour the world for a replacement.
Yes, they do seem to have been more than happy to embrace the Pozzo culture. Like so much of football, sacrificed their soul on the altar of Premier League football.
Just reading his press conference after their defeat on Saturday.
Some very strange said by him. I would be intrigued to understand what he think he's compromised on, exactly? And if it's such a compromise, no one forced you to go to a club which just broke their transfer record for you.
Spot on, that's where the problem lays with Stoke and Southampton, Prima donner foreign players who think they are so entitled and better than they think. Impossible clubs to manage.
So, Southampton's system wasn't working and Hassenhutl was sacked. NJ was recruited to impose his way of playing. The players wanted to continue the Hassenhutl system. NJ caved in.
What must the board think to that. 6 Prem games wasted and as far as the board are concerned his contract has been broken in a way.
It was always going to end in tears. Soton are a car crash of a club and what possessed their owners to appoint NJ defies comprehension. I’ve always been a big fan of NJ but his judgement in leaving us for Soton was misguided to say the least, particularly after the Stoke debacle. The level of delusion and hubris on his part has been truly breathtaking. I doubt that he’ll turn things around, it looks as if he won’t get the chance anyway. And the way he has conducted himself has been truly appalling. There’s been no dignity and he lacks class. I was sorry to see him leave but we’ve moved on and in RE have a manager who has hit the ground running and is the perfect fit. We seemed to have stepped up a gear since NJ’s departure, much like we did when he left for Stoke.
Wouldn't say Soton are a car crash. Stable-ish prem club, an occasional cup run here and there. Their existence has been pretty boring for most of the last decade (especially the last 5 after they reached the league cup final) but I wouldn't describe them as a car crash
Their fans seem to think they're some sort of footballing giant though. That's quite funny
They also said they brought in a Poundland manager. Like Stoke, they are so up themselves and think they are a huge club when really they are championship.
Stoke are even worse though. Soton fans are bad but Stoke fans' collective level of delusion is off the scale. Reached a Cup Final in the early 10s, had a few prem years and, because of that, they see themselves as MASSIVE. They were utter shit, pulling shit gates, for much of the 80s and 90s
Must be something to do with red and white stripes because Sunderland fans are similar (although to be fair they do have the fanbase to be able to claim they are a big club. I mean, they keep reminding the world what a HUGE fanbase they have. Fanbase FC. Even then they've won nothing since 1973. But at least their displays of grandeur are more understandable)
Sunderland were able to build a massive stadium with regeneration money and ever since have been able to offer seasons tickets at ludicrously low prices, esp to the young and old. As a result, their support appears good, but it’s no bigger than, say, stokes, Southampton or Plymouths would be if they had the same situation.
That and it’s well known that people from the north east are more passionate about football than everyone else. They say so, so it’s a fact.
Are Preston huge because they were the first team to win the double?
As I say, Sunderland have a bigger claim to be a GIANT compared to Stoke and Soton (S'land are a big club to be fair - it just mildly irritates me that they go on and on about it) but they've won nothing in my lifetime
He made it all about him, didn't he? Turned himself into the victim.
Imagine how we would have reacted if Edwards had only won once since being here and all he talked about was how good he was at Forest Green and how he's compromised by being here etc.
Last time he left us mid season we ended up getting promoted.
7 games though is a ridiculous amount of time to give someone . Fans are self entitled - he was brought in as the other manager got sacked ,and it was supposed to be long term. So he won`t keep them up, but they were heading that way before. So when the next one comes in and doesn't keep them up, do they sack him as well?
Red and white stripes don't suit him. I'd advise he steers clear in future. As a person , I don't like him. Morally bankrupt with an inflated ego. He did a job for us , that I grant him , but I hope he never returns here again
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