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You go on about empty seats..Now on NOV 6th 1991 Watford v Oxford in the second tier of the football league your "crowd/gathering was 4,485 for that fixture, Luton have never had a crowd that small for a second tier fixture played at a normal kick off time ie (7.45 pm for a midweek fixture. also you never sold out your ticket allocation for the Man city Cup final massacre.. thats for an Fa cup final!!!.. we sold 42k for our paint pot final with scunny so dont come on here going on about our empty seats etc OH by the way MIND THE GAP!!
And only once in their five non-league years did Luton Town ever have a home attendance of less than 5,000 (4,897 under the lights against Hyde on Tuesday 12th March 2013).
So, that's more in the 5th tier than Watfor in the 2nd tier. Just run along child.
To be honest if the atmosphere on Tuesday for the last 10 minutes And after the final whistle, was like that the whole game it would of been fantastic, however I must agree the atmosphere is toilet for most off the game, remember going in the oak road in early 80s and late 80s was absolutely fantastic, even in 2006 it was brilliant, but we do seem to have lost that fearsome noise we used to create, anyway here’s to another 3 points on Saturday, to move even further away from the scum
The atmosphere at most home games has been excellent for a few years now and was especially good last season. For some reason it's tailed off since the turn of the calendar year and there have been other isolated games where it's not been the best. Wigan, Grimsby and Cardiff perhaps not being the most inspiring series of games hasn't helped coupled with poor home form
You're always going to get the odd game here and there which is poor atmosphere-wise
In the 80s, which you refer to, I'm afraid your recollection does not match mine. I can recall a fair few games where the atmosphere was flat even back then. And going to away games those days where the home crowd was flat too. But we often think that it was better in the old days - not just regards football
Oh come on, there may have been odd flat games but at other times it just took the team taking to the pitch to start a celebration that would be just as loud as one for a goal being scored is now.
Yes, there were odd flat games back in the day. Exactly what I said.
There were some cracking atmospheres too. But it wasn't always like that. Anywhere. Watching repeats of The Big Match from 1979 the other day and there wasn't much noise. Although the main game was at Highbury
Just think the nature of nostalgia, the passage of time and being younger (I was a kid/teenager back then) positively colours the memory
Yes I agree with a lot of what you said but I feel pretty sure it's not just nostalgia. On average the atmosphere was significantly better back then. It stands to reason, so many people packed into stands like the Oak Road back then where a collective sigh could be quite loud
Just hope safe standing might be included in PC to help things too
I still think it's pretty good, most of the time, in KR (better than a lot of other grounds anyway) but putting back standing areas in stadia won't half help. Not just for us but every club
TBH, when you get a club like Cardiff time wasting from the 1st minute, hell bent on a 0-0 draw and a clueless ref its not suprising you can't whip up an atmosphere.
This time wasting crap really does spoil the game, especially as you say when it's from the start. I know we do it too, everyone does, but I can't recall us doing it from the start of a game which is a growing trend. Running the clock down in the last 5 mins is a lot different (but not when taken to extremes)
I would like to see the approach taken at the World Cup become the standard, even if it does mean playing an 'extra' (which it isn't in reality) 10-15 mins.
As an aside, the worst I can remember at KR remains the yellow bellies under that twat Boothroyd, a proper 'anti-football' merchant. Success at that cost? No thanks - seriously.
Really timekeeping should perhaps be with the fourth official, the refs have enough to do. Even when they do add a decent amount of time on it's pretty rare that more than half that added time is "in play" and often they add nothing further on.
It has almost been ingrained now. Sometimes even when teams are on top they bizarrely slow the game down rather than trying to build on that tempo. And it doesn't help that it has become normalised now as "game management" when it's cheating pure and simple.
Refs could do so much to combat it but they often seem quite intent on ignoring it at times. The game could be so much better if we could tackle this particular issue.
Absolutely, not sure what was on the bottom of that keepers left boot, he looked at it everytime he took a goal kick/free kick. Maybe he walked down beach path before the game.
Agree, time wasting is the one thing that really does my head in, the 2nd half just didn't get going due to the spoiling tactics and a ref that took an age to get things moving at every dead ball situation and then they add on just 4 mins. Agree about the world cup, add on loads of time, there was much less time wasting.
There was quite a bit of singing but it didn't spread that much so not that loud. There wasn't much to get excited about football wise. It was the ref who stirred us all now and then but that only goes so far. I think the fans confidence has been dented - Udders at home when they stole a point set the scene and our poor defending recently has put many on edge.
That's because they were all crying in the build-up, shit-scared we were going to beat them so didn't turn up. Pathetic
They didn't sell out for the cup final humiliation back in 2019 either. Or some play-off semi-finals games
For them to be lecturing us on gates (when we're running at over 90% full most weeks anyway). I mean, wow
Cardiff didn't sell out on Tuesday too, of course, which didn't help numbers on Tuesday. Not criticising Cardiff by the way. Shit journey on a Tuesday night in Jan... and they're shit. And we're not the most attractive away day
We are talking about one clown posting. I suspect most Watford fans don't give Luton a thought other than when the teams play. Just as most Luton fans won't give them a thought until they play.
To do otherwise, would point to an inferiority complex
I suspect most Watford fans don't give Luton a thought other than when the teams play. Just as most Luton fans won't give them a thought until they play.
What? I use the word they a couple of times so not sure which 'they' you are referring to
But I was using 'they' when I was pointing out their attitude running up to when we played them?
If their forum is a fair measure of their wider support, then they were shit-scared and crying about the possibility of losing to us and saying that they weren't going to attend. And they didn't sell anywhere near capacity when they played us. They won't even sell 1,000 when they play here
Not sure why pointing that out is displaying an 'inferiority complex' but there you go
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