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    Expectation Management

    Posted by Lutonian on 1/2/2023, 8:59:57

    Agree that some of the comments on here about our transfer business were completely ridiculous , however I don’t think the club/RE managed the window well from a press perspective last night.

    Losing Cornick to Bristol City on a cut price deal, after Naismith, was always going to be a big deal for our fan base - regardless of whether Cornick had been playing well or regularly for the side.

    Replying to questions about Cornick in last night’s press conference with how we were still doing business and we’d come out of the window stronger set up whoever came in next for a fall.

    Unfortunately it was a really young lad from Peterborough U21s and the return of the Admiral. I feel really sorry for Taylor.

    It might have been better to have talked up the players we had already brought in, Mavellous, Drameh and Walton (all of whom I think are potentially upgrades ) and said we were already stronger but might have a little more business to do, rather than giving the impression another proven player was about to come in before the window shut.

    It’s a shame as I think, aside from the Graeme Jones era, we tend to be excellent on this front. Having a game last night won’t have helped with coordination and messaging though.

    Of course… there could still be a free agent coming in….

    You see, it’s the expectation that kills you…

      Re: Expectation Management

      Posted by pingu on 1/2/2023, 9:25:29, in reply to "Expectation Management "

      how do you know cornick went on a cut price deal?

      you know he would have gone for 0 in the summer?

        Re: Expectation Management

        Posted by HH on 1/2/2023, 9:04:50, in reply to "Expectation Management "

        Cornick's contract was up in the summer, wasn't it?

        Surely best to get a fee now then let him walk for nothing in the summer?

        I'm sure he made it clear he wouldn't be re-signing.

          Re: Expectation Management

          Posted by Grumpy on 1/2/2023, 10:16:42, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

          Don’t agree.
          I don’t think we as a club are even remotely equipped on or off the field for the Premier League. A bit of open honesty from 2020 would be refreshing and I agree with Joey where is the promised transparency when it comes to our finances?
          Assuming that is the aim of the board then is Cornick or Taylor more likely to get us into the Premier League. If the answer is Cornick then the loss of 150k or whatever the fee was would pale into insignificance to the riches gained. Truth is they’ve taken the money and what happens onfield is secondary at best.

            Re: Expectation Management

            Posted by RGDave on 1/2/2023, 11:37:22, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

            Stuff and nonsense.

              Re: Expectation Management

              Posted by Music Critic on 1/2/2023, 10:32:21, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

              Strange comment re Prem League. If we go up, we're ready. Not being remotely ready is a bizarre thing to say

              The cash will help accelerate the build of PC, aiding the club's growth and development off-field. And on-field, well, we'll just make a lot of signings I assume? Like Forest had to

                Re: Expectation Management

                Posted by HH on 1/2/2023, 10:25:26, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                Depends on the fee I guess.

                I suspect 2020 run the club on the worst case scenario, so being a Championship club next season and with the budget that will bring.
                If we're talking £350k+ or so, then that's good value for a player who has only scored once all season and isn't a starter.

                It's all differing onions, obviously, but I don't see Cornick as being the person who would take us into the Premier League.

                He was a steady player, did a job etc and we may miss him at times in the run in but it's not going to be the end of the world and are season won't live or die on Cornick being in the squad - or not.

                  Re: Expectation Management

                  Posted by Hmm on 1/2/2023, 10:19:29, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                  Still in a huff about the pitch and the ladies team? Grow up ffs, some truly clueless comments there

                  Re: Expectation Management

                  Posted by Mahatma Gander on 1/2/2023, 9:24:31, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                  I think it was a mixed window, some real quality coming in, albeit on loan. Drameh looks outstanding based on last night and Marvelous sounds like he could be a big plus.

                  In fairness though it is hard to understand the messaging about the strike force. Fred, if he stays fit showed that he can likely do a lot of what Cornick does, but I'd challenge anyone to suggest the striking options in the squad look as good as before this window.

                  Will it be worth whatever money we got for Cornick / saved on Jerome's contract? Time will tell I guess.




                    Re: Expectation Management

                    Posted by RADSB on 1/2/2023, 9:42:12, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                    I think last night demonstrated that we haven't got that player who can do something different to help unlock stubborn defences, especially at home. We didn't create much and certainly didn't test the keeper until very late on. Crosses were dealt with by their defence and it took a deflected one for Ade to score. So I see people's concern but to have a go at Taylor is extraordinary - Boro fans opinion over this from the OF -

                    "Chief Recruitment Officer Mick Harford added: “We have tracked Joe for a long period of time, and have got many reports on him. We’ve seen him play in many various types of game, at training grounds and at the main stadium, and he always seems to be on the shoulder of the last defender, looking for that ball over the top to run in behind.

                    “He’s got good pace and we believe he’s a real threat who will always create chances for himself. He needs a little bit of work and time, but we believe we can develop him into a top striker here.”

                      Re: Expectation Management

                      Posted by Striker on 1/2/2023, 10:13:43, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                      We got behind Cardiff and delivered crosses on numerous occasions, how can anyone say we didn't create chances?
                      The attackers not getting on the end of them is a different subject.

                        Re: Expectation Management

                        Posted by RADSB on 1/2/2023, 13:55:54, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                        Tell me one save from their keeper

                        Re: Expectation Management

                        Posted by Mahatma Gander on 1/2/2023, 9:46:51, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                        Oh I agree and I wasn't having a go at him at all. If Harford effectively says he is one for the future then I'm happy with that and some of what has been written about him seems ridiculously unfair.

                        I was commenting on the messaging and what it means for our season ahead though, like I said, in terms of pure strikers the overall squad strength seems to have reduced in that specific area while strengthening in others.

                          Re: Expectation Management

                          Posted by RADSB on 1/2/2023, 10:03:40, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                          Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you, I just parked my thoughts there to complete the post. I'm a bit woolly headed atm with the lurgy.

                          We need goals from all areas and maybe that is what Edwards is looking for. With Nakamba sitting, we might see more freedom for the rest of the midfield and defenders who want to go forward. Clark is playing superbly so him further forward would be an asset. We have seen Burke in forward areas a few times and him and Bell scored away at Udders. More shooting from outside the box should be encouraged....ok back to bed for me.

                            Re: Expectation Management

                            Posted by Mahatma Gander on 1/2/2023, 10:10:34, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                            No worries, and I agree though again the messaging last night does indicate they were planning something else but it didn't come off. Then again, no rumours at all came out so maybe not.

                            I think we might see the team play in a different way, current way at home is definitely struggling.

                            Get better soon!

                        Re: Expectation Management

                        Posted by HH on 1/2/2023, 9:37:24, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                        Fair summary.

                        I also think it's a bit strange from Harry's perspective.

                        Bree I get completely - moving to a higher division.

                        But Cornick? What's the rush? He can sit out another 6 months here, potentially compete in the playoffs again and if he still wants to leave in the summer he will be a free agent and could command an even higher wage.

                          Re: Expectation Management

                          Posted by RADSB on 1/2/2023, 9:45:40, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                          Yes I thought Cornick would stay until the Summer as you say. Instead of choosing one club out of one that came in for him, he could have sat back and waited for the offers to come in. At 27 years old this is probably his last big contract.

                            Re: Expectation Management

                            Posted by Mahatma Gander on 1/2/2023, 9:43:32, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                            Yes, I was a bit disappointed he went but for a young man with a family (I think?) it must be tough making those decisions. Go for double the salary now and secure a a 2-3 year contract or wait it out. It could go well but equally he might get a bad injury / play badly and find that the offer isn't there any more.

                            One thing's for sure, Bristol City have our number.

                          Re: Expectation Management

                          Posted by Ches Fordroad on 1/2/2023, 9:22:06, in reply to "Re: Expectation Management "

                          According to the experts, we shouldn't be in the position where players' contracts are allowed to run down.

                          Not entirely sure what the experts think the answer is, mind. Force the players to sign at gunpoint? Offer 10 year contacts?

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