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    Old Palace lodge

    Posted by lutonboy on 24/1/2023, 12:46:09

    Apparently the Old Palace lodge have cancelled weddings and functions that were due to take place due to the housing of immigrants?

    Bit wrong!

      Re: Old Palace lodge

      Posted by Rory on 24/1/2023, 14:26:33, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

      I thought it was asylum seekers?

        Re: Old Palace lodge

        Posted by Andy Cappucino on 24/1/2023, 14:06:18, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

        Meanwhile armed forces veterans are sleeping rough

          Re: Old Palace lodge

          Posted by Irony on 24/1/2023, 14:39:13, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

          How many ex armed forces have you offered a room to?

            Re: Old Palace lodge

            Posted by Whhatter on 24/1/2023, 20:31:27, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

            Have a day off. Armed forces members who have seen active combat should be given a home free of charge. The problem is that God save the King is all well and good, until they are injured or suffer mental issues.

            Then, they are forgotten about.

              Re: Old Palace lodge

              Posted by Private Ice Cream on 24/1/2023, 23:35:30, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

              Would you let all those Gurkhas in and give all them homes too? You know - all those blackies from Nepal or wherever it is they come from?

                Re: Old Palace lodge

                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 24/1/2023, 20:59:20, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                It's not either/or, though, is it?
                It should be possible, with a decent, caring government in charge, to look after ex-servicepeople as well as treating refugees as human beings.


                A poem written over a hundred years ago regarding how soldiers are seen
                https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_tommy.htm

                Re: Old Palace lodge

                Posted by boz on 24/1/2023, 15:36:00, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                its good that we as a board have someone like you to play DA every time. You do a tremendous job and if it wasn't your your good self, we would be maligned forevermore with some form of one dimensional thinking. You are a deep thinker bar none.

                Thankyou. You can toddle off now!

                  Re: Old Palace lodge

                  Posted by Old School on 24/1/2023, 14:51:15, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                  Ask the owners of The Old Palace Lodge first.

                  Kerching might have something to do with it.

                  Re: Old Palace lodge

                  Posted by James on 24/1/2023, 14:14:49, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                  mostly due to choice and mental health. no ones making them homeless, although i ask do the MOD do enough for our servicemen.

                    Re: Old Palace lodge

                    Posted by Wow on 24/1/2023, 14:29:58, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                    So you've read up on every case?

                    Re: Old Palace lodge

                    Posted by Yep on 24/1/2023, 14:09:42, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                    On your beloved Tories watch.

                    Re: Old Palace lodge

                    Posted by Eddie on 24/1/2023, 13:47:37, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                    Not much of a deterrent is it, 4 star hotel and 3 meals a day. They must be all phoning their mates up saying you need to get in on this .
                    Embarrassing,security in this country is a joke, we havent got a clue who they are. They can just make up a name and age and we have no idea of any criminal past. You try waltzing illegally into the countries that these blokes came from and see how you get on!

                      Re: Old Palace lodge

                      Posted by How can this be? on 24/1/2023, 13:57:58, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                      The nation voted for leaving the EU so we've got our country and our borders back and for the Tories so we have strong government with no concessions for immigrants or leftie ideas so this can't possibly be happening can it? 🤔🤔

                        Re: Old Palace lodge

                        Posted by Capitalism on 24/1/2023, 14:01:00, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                        They really are >suckers>

                          Re: Old Palace lodge

                          Posted by The Questioner on 24/1/2023, 14:00:19, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                          Whilst I voted remain and still think it was the correct decision how do you think leaving the EU has affected this situation?

                            Re: Old Palace lodge

                            Posted by Slippy Sunak on 24/1/2023, 14:10:24, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                            It has made a big difference.

                            Its got a lot worse despite the bullshit promises.

                            you>re welcome.

                              Re: Old Palace lodge

                              Posted by How can this be? on 24/1/2023, 14:07:50, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                              Well it certainly hasn't produced the promised results in any shape or form has it? Yet certain people try to blame anyone but themselves.

                                Re: Old Palace lodge

                                Posted by The Questioner on 24/1/2023, 14:21:40, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                Certainly hasn’t improved but neither of you (assuming you aren’t the same person ) have given a reason as to why you think not being in the EU has changed things?

                                  Re: Old Palace lodge

                                  Posted by Slippy Sunak on 24/1/2023, 14:14:26, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                  Under the Dublin agreement we have lost the right to send migrants back to the EU.

                                  Gumbo signed this treaty.

                                    Re: Old Palace lodge

                                    Posted by Facts. on 24/1/2023, 15:32:38, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                    The Dublin agreement was never fit for purpose and has little to no bearing on the numbers.
                                    Between 2015 to 2018, there was a total outflow of just 1,395 people returned under the regulation : an average of 349 people in total p.a.
                                    In the same period the inflow was 2,365 : an average of 591 people in total p.a.
                                    The balance from a small net outflow to a net inflow shifted from 2015 and has been the case every year thereafter.

                                      Re: Old Palace lodge

                                      Posted by Double facts on 24/1/2023, 15:50:58, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                      We have more migrants now than ever.
                                      We can't send them back.
                                      This was signed under the Dublin agreement.

                                      ' oven ready '

                                      Now the pillocks are trying to amend the Dublin agreement.

                                      Now that's facts.

                                        Re: Old Palace lodge

                                        Posted by W12 Hatter on 24/1/2023, 16:36:37, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                        I've always wondered about BoJo's phrase, 'oven ready' To me, 'oven ready' is something that needs further work before it is fit for purpose.

                                        Would you eat something that is only 'oven ready'?

                                          Re: Old Palace lodge

                                          Posted by Double facts on 24/1/2023, 16:45:36, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                          I would not eat anything that was claimed to be 'oven ready ' by that fat crook.

                                          He signed the 'oven ready' deal off which suggested it was now cooked.

                                          It's fair to say that the UK is 'fully cooked' now.

                                          Re: Old Palace lodge

                                          Posted by Did you actually on 24/1/2023, 15:59:06, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                          take note of the tiny numbers sent back each year with a net influx still left under the regulation every year since 2015 ?

                                            Re: Old Palace lodge

                                            Posted by Double facts on 24/1/2023, 16:06:29, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                            Have you got the 2022-2023 figures on influx ?

                                            It makes a huge difference in how many get sent back

                                            Let's do 2015 immigration compare with 2022 if you like.

                                            Wonder why the muppets are trying to scrap the agreement?

                                            'Oven ready' 'we can take back control'
                                            Did you fall for it?

                                              Re: Old Palace lodge

                                              Posted by What on earth on 24/1/2023, 16:16:49, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                              are you on about.
                                              The original point made inferred the effectiveness of the Dublin agreement and without it, the UK were knackered. The facts have been posted as to the tiny numbers returned under the agreement (in fact a net influx) i.e it was never fit for purpose. If you don't understand that, I can't help you.
                                              Any thoughts on the ineffectiveness of Eurodac and the EU collaboration as to in which Country claims should be processed ?

                                                Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                Posted by jimmyp on 24/1/2023, 17:07:17, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                'inferred' is not a synonym of 'implied'

                                                Were the "tiny numbers" because the other applications were granted?

                                                Cheers, Jim

                                                  Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                  Posted by Double facts on 24/1/2023, 16:22:06, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                  What are you going on about the EU for?

                                                  If you don't understand we are not part of it you should give up, this is about the UK ( we got our kuntry back ) ( we control our borders )

                                                  Why are we trying to rip up the Dublin agreement? ( 3rd time I've asked you )

                                                  I know you fell for it but it really is the time to ' grow a pair ' and say' YES I'm a sucker.'

                                                    Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                    Posted by I'll try one last time on 24/1/2023, 16:37:52, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                    although you seem incapable of any basic understanding.
                                                    Slippy Sunak stated we have lost the right (which we previously had under the Dublin agreement) to send anyone back to the EU i.e he inferred that having lost that right was a big issue.
                                                    I stated in response that it's pretty irrelevant due to (1) the tiny numbers that were being sent back and (2) we still had a net influx under that arrangement. In short, being part of the Dublin agreement achieved little.
                                                    So how about the ineffectiveness of the Eurodac/EU collaboration in terms of the correct Country to process an application ?

                                                      Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                      Posted by jimmyp on 24/1/2023, 17:08:02, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                      2 is because of 1.

                                                      Is 1 because all the other applications were granted?

                                                      Cheers, Jim

                                                        Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                        Posted by Double facts on 24/1/2023, 16:41:58, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                        And I will try again.

                                                        It's so insignificant that they are desperate to rip it up.

                                                        Gumbo signed the ' oven ready ' deal which they are now crying about.

                                                    Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                    Posted by Double facts on 24/1/2023, 16:11:02, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                    Quick check shows an extra 11k

                                                    Bravo brexit.

                                                    Bravo Gumbo.

                                                    Bravo the clowns that voted for It.

                                              Re: Old Palace lodge

                                              Posted by The Questioner on 24/1/2023, 14:25:04, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                              Is that right ? I thought we could still send them back ? I assume we are just talking about illegal immigrants.
                                              It’s a horrible situation all round that’s for sure .

                                                Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                Posted by Slippy Sunak on 24/1/2023, 14:31:02, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                Yep and no we can not send them back.

                                                This whole immigration issue will never be solved and will get worse as climate issues are estimated to leave 3 billion homeless in the future.

                                                No answer exist for this issue but Governments will pander this issue to gain votes from a certain sector of society.



                                      Re: Old Palace lodge

                                      Posted by Sid on 24/1/2023, 13:36:19, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                                      I heard some asylum seekers came over specially to get married there, but now they can't.

                                      Put me in a bit of a quandry about that

                                        Re: Old Palace lodge

                                        Posted by hatters1988 on 24/1/2023, 13:33:38, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                                        This was done yesterday, do keep up old bean.

                                          Re: Old Palace lodge

                                          Posted by Old School on 24/1/2023, 13:21:09, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                                          If the hotel was in Luton we wouldn’t have this discussion.

                                          Welcome to our world.

                                            Re: Old Palace lodge

                                            Posted by Grumpy on 24/1/2023, 13:03:47, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                                            It’s an outrageous money grab showing no concern for those getting married etc. I hope they’ll be a significant compensation paid on top of the refund.

                                              Re: Old Palace lodge

                                              Posted by Capitalism on 24/1/2023, 13:47:08, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                              Thats how it works.

                                              Re: Old Palace lodge

                                              Posted by Joker on 24/1/2023, 12:50:07, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                                              Have you made a ‘Refugees Welcome’ banner for them? Would be a nice touch

                                                Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                Posted by Cheated on 24/1/2023, 12:49:30, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                                                The left won’t have any problems with that.

                                                  Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                  Posted by Chested on 24/1/2023, 13:44:43, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                  Yeah, it’s all the fault of the left that the current government, which you’ve defended to the hilt, couldn’t find their backside with two hands and a funnel and do anything to stop it.

                                                  It’s never your fault, you great big patriot you

                                                    Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                    Posted by HG on 24/1/2023, 13:26:28, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                    Yep, every immigrant is one more vote for Labour.

                                                      Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                      Posted by Bleated on 24/1/2023, 13:25:38, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                      Neither should the right. Profit is king and bugger society.

                                                        Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                        Posted by Andy Cappucino on 24/1/2023, 13:56:28, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                        Priceless

                                                          Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                          Posted by Capitalism on 24/1/2023, 13:59:08, in reply to "Re: Old Palace lodge"

                                                          Priceless indeed.

                                                          How i wish we could kick you out.

                                                      Re: Old Palace lodge

                                                      Posted by Source? on 24/1/2023, 12:48:57, in reply to "Old Palace lodge"

                                                      'Apparently'?

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