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    Everton

    Posted by Colin on 23/1/2023, 18:05:02

    Blame board, players, blah, blah. A good manager gets the best out of what he has... Coaching them, improving them.. Beilsa did it at Leeds with championship players.. Made them better. Lampard isn't a coach or manager, like Gerrard stick to TV and Co commentating...

      Re: Everton

      Posted by Andy Cappucino on 23/1/2023, 19:02:06, in reply to "Everton"

      Unfair on Gerrard, given the job he did at Rangers

        Re: Everton

        Posted by Philthehatter on 23/1/2023, 20:26:14, in reply to "Re: Everton"

        Me and you could manage Rangers and at least be runners up.

        Re: Everton

        Posted by Town n out on 23/1/2023, 18:21:42, in reply to "Everton"

        Big jobs far too early in managerial careers, both of em.

          Re: Everton

          Posted by James on 23/1/2023, 18:09:30, in reply to "Everton"

          I disagree

            Re: Everton

            Posted by T wat on 23/1/2023, 18:15:05, in reply to "Re: Everton"

            I dont,Lampard isnt very good at being a manager,his record speaks volumes!sacked always!

              Re: Everton

              Posted by Jose on 23/1/2023, 18:41:11, in reply to "Re: Everton"

              Name me a manager with a few years experience that hasn't been sacked?

                Re: Everton

                Posted by The Outsider on 23/1/2023, 18:51:10, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                Simon Weaver of Harrogate - over 700 games. Helps when the chairman is your Dad, I suppose.

                  Re: Everton

                  Posted by Since 57 on 23/1/2023, 18:42:11, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                  Guardiola?

                  Re: Everton

                  Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 18:18:08, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                  His record at Derby was good.

                    Re: Everton

                    Posted by HH on 23/1/2023, 18:56:15, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                    Was it?

                    Took a club which have finished 6th the year before to finishing 6th again.

                    I dunno, Everton are a mess and lacking structure but Lampard hasn't really set the world alight at any place he's been to.

                      Re: Everton

                      Posted by Godders on 23/1/2023, 18:26:21, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                      Yes it was and where he built his reputation. He clearly can manage but maybe jumping from Derby with no expectations to Chelsea and then Everton with a very different set of players and egos is a very different proposition. It reminds me very much of Nathan Jones situation - clearly demonstrates good management skills at one club which aren't necessarily transferable directly to another club.

                        Re: Everton

                        Posted by bbb on 23/1/2023, 21:53:33, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                        You talk some right old guff Godders.

                          Re: Everton

                          Posted by Nick NLPBH on 23/1/2023, 20:53:28, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                          Problem is "big name" players get an easier shot at big jobs, even if they arent any good or haven`t built up the experience.Premier league is a huge jump.Bryan Robson was the best example - great player - got job after job based on that. Shit at all of them. Southgate on the other hand didnt set the world alight in the jobs he had pre England, but now Englands most successful manager since Alf Ramsay

                            Re: Everton

                            Posted by Godders on 23/1/2023, 21:52:35, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                            Pretty much bang on.

                            Re: Everton

                            Posted by m on 23/1/2023, 18:58:00, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                            But. these sort of jobs don,t come up often. If he,d turned them he,d have been accused of not having the bottle to take it on.

                              Re: Everton

                              Posted by Godders on 23/1/2023, 21:54:30, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                              True. He can't really win I that instance.

                              Re: Everton

                              Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 18:27:53, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                              Yep.

                              Agree.

                              Re: Everton

                              Posted by JAFC on 23/1/2023, 18:21:55, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                              Not really, 42% win ratio

                                Re: Everton

                                Posted by Godders on 23/1/2023, 18:29:33, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                But with a transfer embargo, loads of kids and anticipated relegation he actually gave them a fighting chance.

                                  Re: Everton

                                  Posted by HH on 23/1/2023, 18:57:55, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                  I think their meltdown happened after he left.

                                  When he was there he signed 12 players, including Ashley Cole.

                                    Re: Everton

                                    Posted by Kurious Oranj on 23/1/2023, 18:32:32, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                    I like Frank and Gerrard. I also despise Everton football club and will laugh like a laughing thing on international laugh day when they are relegated

                                    Re: Everton

                                    Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 18:27:13, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                    Not really?

                                    i think most clubs would be happy with that.

                                    A lot of these threads are just personal and anti Everton crap.

                                      Re: Everton

                                      Posted by Godders on 23/1/2023, 18:33:41, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                      Yes. But I absolutely hate Everton and would give me immense personal satisfaction to see them relegated but FL is hardly the biggest issue. Hopefully this sacking will paper over the cracks and they will remain in trouble.

                                        Re: Everton

                                        Posted by HatterHead88 on 23/1/2023, 20:56:14, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                        I haven't forgotten or forgiven Everton for the 13th April 1985 (perhaps I need to learn to move on!).

                                          Re: Everton

                                          Posted by Just saying on 23/1/2023, 19:09:00, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                          A man of the cloth saying that he absolutely hates someone / something , really?

                                            Re: Everton

                                            Posted by Godders on 23/1/2023, 21:56:20, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                            I hate the Ku Klux Klan.

                                            Is that ok for you?

                                              Re: Everton

                                              Posted by Just saying on 24/1/2023, 6:46:29, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                              Bit of a difference, one is an evil organisation the other is a football team. The word hate is banded about too freely nowadays and is unbecoming of a man of the cloth, hang your head in shame.

                                                Re: Everton

                                                Posted by jimmyp on 24/1/2023, 9:20:10, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                                'bandied'

                                                Cheers, Jim

                                            Re: Everton

                                            Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 18:42:11, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                            So do I.

                                            I'm not sure why though, probably as they seem to always escape and that game against Wimbledon looked very suspect.

                                        Re: Everton

                                        Posted by James on 23/1/2023, 18:20:57, in reply to "Re: Everton"

                                        Lots of managers get sacked even our beloved Pleat, i like frank

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