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Old palace Lodge

Posted by Jim's old shoes on 23/1/2023, 10:12:15

3 coaches of immigrants just pulled into car park with 6 immigration transits with them unbelievable

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Posted by W12 Hatter on 23/1/2023, 14:58:22, in reply to "Old palace Lodge "

Delete 'immigrants'. Add 'ex-pats'. Then read back to yourself.

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Posted by Essex hatter on 23/1/2023, 10:32:23, in reply to "Old palace Lodge "

the Icon hotel in Luton town centre Also has migrants staying in that Aswell the old Palace Lodge in Dunstable is lovely place

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Posted by E1 on 23/1/2023, 10:29:31, in reply to "Old palace Lodge "

What’s unbelievable?

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Posted by Andy Cappucino on 23/1/2023, 10:30:45, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Not unbelievable at all

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Posted by E1 on 23/1/2023, 11:55:03, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Does it hurt knowing that they’re here?

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 12:01:00, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Would you consider taking one in to your house?

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Posted by E1 on 23/1/2023, 12:26:04, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

If I had the room, quite possibly if there was a grant for them to cover overheads. Yourself?

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Posted by Jack the Hat on 23/1/2023, 13:22:37, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I had a Ukrainian refugee stay at my house with her 1-year-old baby for the last 9 months. A truly uplifting experience for all.

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Posted by The Questioner on 23/1/2023, 14:48:13, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Well done you mate.👍

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Posted by E1 on 23/1/2023, 14:16:01, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Brilliant!

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Posted by Cheated on 23/1/2023, 12:47:24, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Course you would, Bit like Yevette Cooper, and I’m going to take some Syrians in.

And of course she never did, Champaign Socialist

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Posted by E1 on 23/1/2023, 12:55:56, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Two new names. Asking the same question, making the same point, let’s try & trip up a lefty loon. I didn’t see that one coming doh!

Have a good day gents - I’d recommend some metabhavna. It works.

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 13:00:21, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Not trying to 'trip you up' my yoga enjoying friend. I knew your answer before you said it.
Everyone I've ever spoken to who is pro immigration and doesn't have an issue with repurposing hotels and the other talking points invariably says something like 'if I had the room' or 'i rent' when asked if they would take one in.

Funny that.
Usually they live in a decent area (white flight usually if you like that phrase) as well.

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 23/1/2023, 13:13:01, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Much the same as those who wring their hands about the way "our" homeless and ill-treated veterans are treated usually aren't too keen on taking a few in themselves

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Posted by E1 on 23/1/2023, 13:21:20, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Would you?

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Posted by E1 on 23/1/2023, 13:09:40, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

You personalised something. This is a discussion about a hotel - you messaged me, not the other way around. And I don’t have the room, unless I shared my bedroom with a stranger.

I live in a poor, very multicultural London Borough btw. As for the pissy comment regarding bhuddism. At least look it up. It encourages people to be decent to each other. That’s the very least society can do in times like these.

Good day to you.

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 12:32:57, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

There's that if I had the room again

Funny how everyone says that

No I wouldn't

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Posted by Rose Tinted on 23/1/2023, 10:20:23, in reply to "Old palace Lodge "

NaG will be pleased.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 10:21:43, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Shall I? Why's that then, Newname?

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Posted by Rose Tinted on 23/1/2023, 10:23:36, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

From previous posts you have always supported asylum seekers.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 11:03:06, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Supported their right to claim asylum and not be demonised, as does anyone with a grain of humanity.

So why does that mean I'll be pleased in these particular circumstances?

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Posted by Rose Tinted on 23/1/2023, 12:46:18, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

You will be pleased they are being so well looked after whilst, we have a record number of families using food banks, homeless on our streets, NHS falling apart, people not being able to turn their heating on. When do they get their turn to keep warm and get 3 meals a day in the Old Palace Lodge?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 13:49:07, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Ask this government why they are depriving poor people while giving their rich mates tax breaks and sinecures.

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Posted by Rose Tinted on 23/1/2023, 14:42:23, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

So you don't disagree then, you appear happy to have asylum seekers getting treated better than those here already in need.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 15:13:21, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Strange interpretation.

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Posted by Man on 23/1/2023, 10:37:33, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

They'll soon be in the Ritz, think I'll get 8n a boat down the Kent coast

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Posted by Jim's old shoes on 23/1/2023, 10:37:29, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Maybe nag should take a few in herself why does she want immigrants 😭

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Posted by Mid Beds Tourist office on 23/1/2023, 12:57:54, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

She tried but when they got off the coach and saw Houghton Regis they asked to be taken back

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 13:52:53, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

https://www.houghtonregis.org.uk/useruploads/images/Pavilions/665_village%20green%203.JPG
Perhaps you should visit sometime

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 11:06:41, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

It's part of the UN charter of human rights to help people seeking asylum.

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Posted by Daff on 23/1/2023, 11:24:38, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I agree with you NaG but I do not understand why they cant seek asylum in France or whatever their first 'safe' country they enter into is, surely asylum should be a safe haven nothing more.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 11:27:24, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Since Brexit, they no longer have to stay in the first EU country they arrive at.
And many will already have family here, as well as being able to speak English rather than other languages.

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Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 23/1/2023, 12:58:25, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Goverment website advise that you cannot claim asylum if passed thru a safe country....as for the family here issue...go to your safe other country and apply to join family here...obey the rules in other words...or be shipped out...

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Posted by The Cruiser on 23/1/2023, 20:05:08, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

That is completely untrue.

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Posted by It’s been explained to on 23/1/2023, 13:03:30, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

You on here multiple times.

If you are a bit silly and don’t understand the postings then that’s tough.

You voted for Brexit for sure.

You fit all the right criteria.

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Posted by Daff on 23/1/2023, 11:40:04, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

So if they escape to the EU the EU has no responsibility to process their asylum application? Seems a bit odd.

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Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 12:11:19, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

You voted for it.

Dry those eyes.

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 11:26:30, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

A lot more of them already do than come here.

Are you saying we should be exempt from helping asylum seekers while other countries are doing their bit?

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Posted by Daff on 23/1/2023, 11:31:01, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

No, not at all, but surely if you are in fear of your life or your families lives the essential thing is to guarantee their safety wherever that may be at the very first opportunity available.

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Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 23/1/2023, 12:52:52, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Albania is a safe place..no war going on...so why we allowing them to seek asylum

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 13:44:15, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Are the Albanian tolerant of dissent and position?

War isn't the only reason people don't feel safe in their country.
And if this lot have their way, our country will be cracking down on non-believers in their myth.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 13:45:02, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

"opposition"

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 11:48:03, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Which would mean the border countries taking the full brunt, and might mean people who have friends or family in the UK might end up in a different country.

That certainly doesn't sound very fair to either the countries or the asylum seekers to me.

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Posted by You what mate? on 23/1/2023, 12:03:23, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Fair is making sure they're safe. That is the one main priority. If that is in a different country so be it.

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 13:14:27, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Think you missed the point . . .

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Posted by You what mate? on 23/1/2023, 13:51:06, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

The ONLY point is that they're safe. It's not down to us to go all Cilla Black and reunite families.

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 15:59:34, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Hmmm, it's far better for social cohesion and they are far more likely to integrate successfully if they can do it as family groups. Ergo, they are much more likely to be positively productive.

But your approach basically means all of these people would end up in a very small number of countries. That's neither fair nor sustainable.

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Posted by Why Us? on 23/1/2023, 14:14:05, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

they're all fake anyway

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Posted by Stop crying. on 23/1/2023, 14:30:56, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

You voted for it baby.

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Posted by Grinning granny on 23/1/2023, 11:01:29, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

NaG would love them in Houghton Regis, it's a shit hole anyway so a couple of hundred more making it even more of a shit hole is neither here nor there.

Yes, let them all in, let's be the dustbin for the Worlds waifs and strays, welcome them with open arms, after all it's the Brits who will pick up the tab for housing and feeding them, all whilst we still, disgracefully, have our own people sleeping rough in doorways and underpasses in sub zero temperatures.

Let's build tens of thousands of new houses to accommodate them over previously prime agricultural land, land that will be lost forever for the growing of crops, build them in ever increasing numbers on school playing fields so that our children have nowhere to play thereby increasing the ever growing obesity amongst the young and vulnerable.

Let them in to abuse our culture, to assist in increasing crime levels when they realise there are no money trees in the UK.

We continue to be the soft touch for these people. Maybe one day governments will come to their senses and put a stop too it all but I fear the dye is cast.

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 23/1/2023, 11:10:46, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Predictable stuff, Gerry

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Posted by Cheated on 23/1/2023, 12:50:17, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Truth hurts eh, what’s your answer brains?

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 23/1/2023, 13:14:50, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I don't have the answers, Chesty, rather like your beloved government.

Still, at least Brexit will sort it.

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Posted by Griffo on 23/1/2023, 11:08:37, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Send them all to Spixworth, they'd soon want to leave when they realised what miserable old twats live there

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Posted by Twat Spotter on 23/1/2023, 15:38:06, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Fell out with them now have you? Geez!

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Posted by Dulwich on 23/1/2023, 13:01:59, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

strange post

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 23/1/2023, 11:11:26, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Or Harpenden

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Posted by Rich Tory on 23/1/2023, 11:39:39, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Our hotels are out of their price range.

Chesford Road or surrounding area is more fitting.

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Posted by Ches Fordroad on 23/1/2023, 13:16:18, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Typical Harpenden attitude.

Some of them might be pale enough to fit in, you know.

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 11:07:47, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Compared to our population size we take in relatively few asylum seekers, eg less than half the rate that Germany do and a lot less than France, Italy, Spain, The Netherlands and at less than a quarter of the rate of Austria . . . and so on.

(2021 figures)

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Posted by The Questioner on 23/1/2023, 14:53:44, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I think if you look over 10 years we do more than our fair share.Merkel only upped her game towards the end of her tenure.

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Posted by RADSB on 23/1/2023, 11:10:00, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

It's the local impact that is the issue as per LBC's threat to sue
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-63753130

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 11:16:28, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Well the post I was replying to was about the overall UK situation.

But certainly on the face of that article Luton is being put in an awful position by central government and the council have every right to be very concerned.

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Posted by RADSB on 23/1/2023, 11:25:53, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Sorry, yes. I wanted to plonk it somewhere so you got it.

Take the responsibility back to the EU. The main influx has been through Greece and Italy and both have been asking the EU for help for years. Germany decided not to take the lead or suggest a solution (other than Merkel saying come to Germany). They could have opened a system so each country could take their share, have rules for process, repatriation, education, integration etc. Instead they bribe Erdogan, Poland construct a wall between them and Belarus but those who make in are left to wander Europe.

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 11:28:40, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

PS I probably deserve it more than most to be fair

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 11:28:20, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

But we're no longer in the EU.

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Posted by RADSB on 23/1/2023, 11:33:35, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

We were in the EU when it kicked off as you wll recall the long lines walking to Germany at the time of the Brexit referendum. Even though we are out of the EU I'd like to think we would have taken part in such an EU wide scheme.....

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Posted by Mahatma Gander on 23/1/2023, 11:28:04, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

That's a very fair point actually.

And it's a stupid oversight because I think it's fair to say that when it comes to refugees . . . we ain't seen nothing yet.

This is going to get massively worse in the coming decades.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 11:05:18, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

And what particular salubrious location do you inhabit?
This country accepts fewer refugees than many others.
The building thousands of houses is going on anyway.

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 11:47:44, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Honest question, would you take an asylum seeker/immigrant into your house?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 11:51:41, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Sod off ....I don't have the facilities and thers nothing in Houghton for them..

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 11:58:33, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Sod off saddo.

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 11:59:15, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Would you take one in though?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius on 23/1/2023, 12:00:36, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

If I had room, yes probably. But as I haven't, the question doesn't arise.

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Posted by DIY SOS on 23/1/2023, 13:19:15, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Give us a call NaG. We can make it happen.

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Posted by Boris on 23/1/2023, 13:25:28, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I get mine paid for.

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 12:02:10, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Ah right, of course

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Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 12:08:56, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

You ask a question, get an answer and then have nothing.

Stupid boy.

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 12:13:04, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I got the answer expected.

I know sarcasm doesn't transfer well over text but I thought it was obvious in my reply

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Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 12:16:04, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Maybe sarcasm isn’t your thing.

Why don’t you ask the Tory HQ why they keep using places like Luton as dumping grounds knowing the struggles this area already has?

They might appreciate your sarcasm.

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Posted by Doctor Ince on 23/1/2023, 12:18:28, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I think you've answered your own question there.

Not going to dump immigrants in well off areas, or places they've invested a bit of money in are they?

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Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 12:20:05, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I have.

That’s my sarcasm.

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Posted by Question on 23/1/2023, 11:50:23, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Would you?

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Posted by Hmm on 23/1/2023, 11:57:57, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

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Posted by Posted by on 23/1/2023, 11:04:00, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Maybe you should stop voting for a party that uses Luton as a dumping ground Granny.

Now do some knitting and P off.

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Posted by Grinning granny on 23/1/2023, 12:48:31, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

You've no idea which party I vote for, and as you've raised the matter of knitting, I don't knit and never have.

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Posted by Griffo on 23/1/2023, 12:50:40, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

Let's face it Spix, you've never done anything to help anyone and your only use for needles is to stab people who have trusted you in the back

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Posted by Crikey on 23/1/2023, 11:03:21, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

What a life you must have!

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Posted by Trevore on 23/1/2023, 11:39:55, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I don't get a hotel i live at the pond all i have is a bottle of rum and a bag of wotsits

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Posted by grumpy on 23/1/2023, 16:04:22, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

I hope no one ever visits the place again, I certainly won`t. Nothing to do with the new occupants but the greedy bastard owners, whoever they are, have taken a huge guaranteed lump of cash to minimum 2025 and just wiped out all weddings and functions pre booked in their favour. Shameful behaviour

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Posted by Essex hatter on 23/1/2023, 16:39:43, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

There is quite few hotels in Luton and Also in Dunstable Bedford with the migrants staying in now

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Posted by Rose Tinted on 23/1/2023, 17:44:46, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

According to Luton Council 24% of the regions asylum seekers are being housed in hotels in Luton, see RADBS post earlier for link. The Council believe this is an unfair proportion, can't help but agree with them.

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Posted by Well on 23/1/2023, 18:17:35, in reply to "Re: Old palace Lodge "

That's the Tories for you.

Stick them in poor labour towns.

Let's give them no money as well while funding Tory areas.

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