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    Jake Peck

    Posted by Theophilus Carter on 25/9/2022, 13:24:47

    Very nasty injury at Chesham United yesterday. One of our ex academy players.
    Fb report by the chairman:
    Yesterday as Chairman of Chesham United goes down as the worst possible day during my 8 years at the club. To see our young superb player laying prostrate on the pitch for over 3 hours waiting for a Ambulance was gut wrenching and awful. It was 4 hours after the incident that he was eventually taken to hospital with copious amounts of morphine and entonox in his system so that he could be moved into the front seat of the first responders vehicle. Jake Peck get well soon young man and we all look forward to the day that you put on our shirt again along with Rod. Thatís two serious injuries in 3 weeks that means season over for such talented brilliant players 💔

      Re: Jake Peck

      Posted by pingu on 25/9/2022, 14:20:40, in reply to "Jake Peck"

      3 hours ffs. what have we become.

        Re: Jake Peck

        Posted by Laurie on 25/9/2022, 14:42:02, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

        My wife waited 3 hours in an ambulance outside A n E , the NHS cannot cope sadly, and this is not uncommon, I would expect hes already had what will be a major operation. 4 hours is terrible

        Proud to work in the operating enviroment they do amazing work.

          Re: Jake Peck

          Posted by Camavinga on 25/9/2022, 15:42:23, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

          Not surprised doctors at addenbrooks told my dad you have few months max. My French aunt told him to come to France for second opinion. He lives 17 years more!

          My mother got a quote for 2500 quid for teeth job.m in Cambridge. Went to Montpellier and had same job done for Ä0! (She does have a holiday home there)

            Re: Jake Peck

            Posted by Laurie on 25/9/2022, 17:23:31, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

            I had female chum in Montpellier ,i drove there on a job once what a lovely epic trip.

          Re: Jake Peck

          Posted by bbb on 25/9/2022, 14:31:56, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

          Unfortunately that's more common than you'd think.
          My youngest was playing at a tournament at Macc FC a few weeks ago. A lad on the other team got his ankle snapped. It echoed round the ground. He was screaming in agony, 13 years old. Ambulance said 2 and half hours ETA.
          We ended up taking some seats out of the team bus sobthere was room for his stretcher and taking him hospital(10 mins up the road)in that.
          The poor sod.

            Re: Jake Peck

            Posted by crumpsall on 25/9/2022, 14:42:27, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

            7 hour wait for an ambulance for me last year was the earliest. Luckily friends were able to take me in. The accident was half a mile from A&E!

              Re: Jake Peck

              Posted by pingu on 25/9/2022, 14:40:06, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

              criminal innit.

              Re: Jake Peck

              Posted by James on 25/9/2022, 14:28:43, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

              My son told me about this earlier I never realised how bad it was.Gutted for the lad.

              Re: Jake Peck

              Posted by crumpsall on 25/9/2022, 13:34:49, in reply to "Jake Peck"

              Oh, that's awful. I noticed their game had been abandoned but had no idea why. Thanks for the info. Here's to his full recovery.

                Re: Jake Peck

                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 25/9/2022, 14:29:17, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                + 1

                  Re: Jake Peck

                  Posted by Laststraw on 25/9/2022, 14:46:16, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                  +2

                    Re: Jake Peck

                    Posted by John O'Rourke Was My Hero on 25/9/2022, 15:54:43, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                    And this is happening in 2022. And all our new chancellor can do is make the rich richer .Yes,those that can afford private health care.The rest of us can crawl in a corner and die. No hope for most of us, is there ?

                      Re: Jake Peck

                      Posted by Winger on 25/9/2022, 16:03:29, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                      Unfortunately Ambulances are busy picking up those that don't need them, who believe that an Ambulance means you skip the queue at A@E.

                        Re: Jake Peck

                        Posted by Godders on 25/9/2022, 22:44:12, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                        that's because it's so difficult to get a GP appointment.

                          Re: Jake Peck

                          Posted by Maillot Jaune. on 26/9/2022, 0:12:47, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                          You seem to be advocating that the right thing to do therefore is call for an ambulance : how bizarre !

                            Re: Jake Peck

                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 26/9/2022, 10:56:47, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                            No, I think he's pointing out the inevitable consequences of the shortage of doctors' appointments and lack of home visits by GPs.

                              Re: Jake Peck

                              Posted by Maillot Jaune on 26/9/2022, 12:07:09, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                              If the inevitable consequence of that is to call for an ambulance, I would hope we would all agree how ridiculous those individuals are by causing a major shortage to those who actually need an ambulance.

                                Re: Jake Peck

                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 26/9/2022, 12:54:57, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                Eh? If your child's ill, and you can't get an appointment at the doctor's for a week, nor get one to do a home visit, what are you supposed to do?

                                  Re: Jake Peck

                                  Posted by Maillot Jaune on 26/9/2022, 13:12:30, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                  Not automatically call an ambulance if not an emergency.
                                  In your example, if the child needed attending to, can they not be taken to hospital if necessary by the parent.
                                  As stated previously, the default reaction for a non emergency should not be to call for an ambulance.
                                  You seem to be advocating that all those that cannot get a GP appointment or a home visit for ages should automayicalky call for an ambulance which is frankly ridiculous.

                                    Re: Jake Peck

                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 26/9/2022, 13:14:26, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                    If they haven't got a car?

                                    Do try and show some empathy.

                                      Re: Jake Peck

                                      Posted by Maillot Jaune on 26/9/2022, 13:45:59, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                      I did state those who need an ambulance which of course would likely mean those who have no other way of getting there (and not just all who can't get an appointment at the doctors or for a home visit which you alluded to with your original blanket statement and would be ridiculous).
                                      You need to actually read the posts fully rather than be blinded by your constant need to argue.

                                        Re: Jake Peck

                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 26/9/2022, 14:26:59, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                        I don't have a "need to argue" (she says argumentatively )
                                        Just a a need to point out that everyone doesn't have a perfect life, with 2.4 children, a car, daddy working and mummy being at home.

                                          Re: Jake Peck

                                          Posted by Maillot Jaune on 26/9/2022, 15:14:20, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                          So why the need to point that out to me other than to argue i.e where did I state or make assumptions about everyone having a perfect life ?
                                          The truth, as you well know, is I didn't infer anything of the sort but you have decided to head off in that direction anyway.
                                          I simply stated all along that the default action for those that cannot get an appointment or a home visit should not be to call for an ambulance (i.e it should be reserved for an emergency / those that truly need an ambulance and if people have transport of their own, they can use it rather than deprive others). Clearly you disagree and think all and sundry should call for an ambulance otherwise it wasn't worth responding in the first place (other than just to argue).

                                            Re: Jake Peck

                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 26/9/2022, 15:35:42, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                            Not at all.
                                            If people have been advised by 111 to call an ambulance, what should they do?

                                              Re: Jake Peck

                                              Posted by Maillot Jaune on 26/9/2022, 16:10:44, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                              So no answer to my question then rather evade and go off on another tangent to simply continue to argue.
                                              How about we get back to my original response and a straight answer from you.
                                              Do you agree with me that the default response to not being able to get a doctors appointment or home visit for some time should not be to call an ambulance ? Yes or no will suffice. If yes, why are you even continuing to argue ?

                                                Re: Jake Peck

                                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 26/9/2022, 18:00:13, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                                It's not a simple yes or no dilemma, is it?

                                                If you have a car, and can safely take a child to hospital without leaving other children alone, if youve phoned 111, and they haven't advised you to call an ambulance, then it's not the answer.
                                                But life is very rarely that simple.

                          Re: Jake Peck

                          Posted by Oh dear. on 25/9/2022, 16:13:44, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                          so ambulance crews are taking folk to hospital who don't need to go?

                          You work in McDonald's more like.

                            Re: Jake Peck

                            Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 25/9/2022, 19:47:28, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                            I have watched the occasional police/ambulance prog on tv...astounds me how many drunks are collected up each day by ambulance...also don't

                              Re: Jake Peck

                              Posted by Oh dear on 25/9/2022, 16:28:30, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                              Not.

                              The A+E is like a war zone nearly every day sadly.

                                Re: Jake Peck

                                Posted by Winger on 25/9/2022, 16:18:16, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                Yes, of course they do. They are paramedics, not Doctors.

                                  Re: Jake Peck

                                  Posted by Oh dear on 25/9/2022, 16:21:59, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                  You realise they do an assessment?

                                  How long have you worked in A+E as you will know my wife who has worked at the place for over 30 years?

                                    Re: Jake Peck

                                    Posted by Winger on 25/9/2022, 16:30:03, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                    Worked there over 20 years. Childrens A&E. Where does your wife work?

                                    Ask your wife if she has ever heard of a paramedic not bringing a child to A&E after being advised to get seen by 111.

                                    Ask your wife how long it takes 2 paramedics to book in a patient who arrives by ambulance on a Friday night. Ask her what % she thinks of those that arrive by ambulance actually need it.

                                      Re: Jake Peck

                                      Posted by Oh dear on 25/9/2022, 16:35:00, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                      You ask her.

                                      You must know her?

                                      You seem to be backtracking laughably.

                                        Re: Jake Peck

                                        Posted by Winger on 25/9/2022, 16:38:46, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                        Backtracking?

                                        No idea who she is.
                                        I'm the one with the Luton mug, on a night shift tonight. Tell her to say hello. We can talk Jake Oeck

                                          Re: Jake Peck

                                          Posted by Pervert Hat on 25/9/2022, 16:38:06, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                          I think you should post a picture of her, for research purposes obviously.

                                  Re: Jake Peck

                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 25/9/2022, 16:04:48, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                  Prove it

                                    Re: Jake Peck

                                    Posted by Winger on 25/9/2022, 16:08:59, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                    I work in A&E and see it every shift. Would you like a video of the Paramedics waiting in the corridor with patients who have a temperature?

                                      Re: Jake Peck

                                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 25/9/2022, 16:52:45, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                      That's not what you said.
                                      You referred to "those that don't need them, who believe that an ambulance means you skip the queue at A&E".
                                      If 111 has advised people to call an ambulance, that is what they'll do.

                                        Re: Jake Peck

                                        Posted by Winger on 25/9/2022, 16:57:44, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                        Yes, anyone can exaggerate symptoms to get a response they want. Like i'm sure you've done in the past when phoning in 'sick'.

                                          Re: Jake Peck

                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 25/9/2022, 17:06:41, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                          No, actually.

                                        Re: Jake Peck

                                        Posted by Andy Cappucino on 25/9/2022, 16:15:01, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                        Good to get a view from someone close to the issue rather than the politically driven fiction we see all too much of on here and elsewhere.

                                          Re: Jake Peck

                                          Posted by Winger on 25/9/2022, 16:22:00, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                          It's mainly down to 101. Any minor who goes off script is recommended to visit A&E to get checked, if an ambulance is then called the paramedics have to follow it through. It's not rocket science, we haven't lost thousands of Ambulances. GP's aren't seeing the patients they were and if it's recommended to get checked then it's a trip to A&E.

                                            Re: Jake Peck

                                            Posted by Oh dear on 25/9/2022, 16:23:21, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                            It's 111.

                                            I thought you would at least know the number.

                                            Re: Jake Peck

                                            Posted by Wanger on 25/9/2022, 16:16:49, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                            Proof if ever needed you swallow any old bollocks.

                                      Re: Jake Peck

                                      Posted by bbb on 25/9/2022, 15:59:31, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                      Drama queen.

                                        Re: Jake Peck

                                        Posted by L&D on 26/9/2022, 11:29:04, in reply to "Re: Jake Peck"

                                        Took my wife to hospital some weeks ago after being told yo do so by 111 as ambulance wait would be four hours.

                                        Whe we got there there were seventeen ambulances waiting to discharge their patients into triage.

                                        That's why there is a delay on getting an ambulance. The whole system bolloxed.

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