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    Preparing to be shot down

    Posted by Wanderer on 4/8/2022, 15:31:41

    We locked down too hard and for too long.

    The state of the economy is proof of that.

    When reviewing this mess in years to come I think historians will question why.

    This isn’t a political point either as the left wanted it longer and even more draconian.

    Unless of course this was part of the lefts plan to allow the Tories to leave us in this mess?

    Or perhaps those WEF stories were true after all.

    No winner in this except the already mega rich.

    Sorry kids 😥

      Re: Preparing to be shot down

      Posted by Tel on 4/8/2022, 17:16:34, in reply to "Preparing to be shot down"

      "Or perhaps those WEF stories were true after all.'

      Yeah, the ones the WEF have been telling you.

        Re: Preparing to be shot down

        Posted by Brad Garlinghouse on 4/8/2022, 18:00:00, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

        Remember their motto, you will own nothing but you will be happy, they intend to hike the mortgage rate up massively and reposes peoples houses. And before you all cry it’s the Bank of England doing this, the Bof E is privately owned.

          Re: Preparing to be shot down

          Posted by Tel on 4/8/2022, 21:10:08, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

          No it isn't, its owned by the Uk Gov.

          Re: Preparing to be shot down

          Posted by Terry in the Office on 4/8/2022, 20:16:41, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

          Who owns the Bank of England?

            Re: Preparing to be shot down

            Posted by Ampthill Mob on 4/8/2022, 19:38:15, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

            Yep, with the likes of Blackrock buying property up at a rapid rate, and ready to rent back peoples property to them when they're repo'd, what nice guys. Klaus Schwab has already admitted to infiltrating governments world wide, he's pulling all the strings. Its all out there for people with eyes that are willing to see it. Many unfortunately would prefer to close theirs and pretend nothing is going on.

          Re: Preparing to be shot down

          Posted by Stupid on 4/8/2022, 17:07:27, in reply to "Preparing to be shot down"

          Living and working in England there's nothing we can do to help those in Ukraine

            Re: Preparing to be shot down

            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/8/2022, 17:58:43, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

            Except contribute to aid appeals, etc.

            Re: Preparing to be shot down

            Posted by jimmyp on 4/8/2022, 17:05:49, in reply to "Preparing to be shot down"

            I think the joined-up thinking is that if we'd locked down sooner, each time, we'd have flattened the curve more quickly and been able to lift restrictions sooner. Also that in doing so, if we'd staged it better rather than flinging the floodgates open and 'eating out to help out' and irresponsible shit like that, we could have kept it flatter.

            Of course if we'd funded, administered and treated the NHS more responsibly for so many years, we might not have needed to do half as much.

            Cheers, Jim

              Re: Preparing to be shot down

              Posted by MVhatter on 4/8/2022, 17:35:41, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

              The bit about funding the NHS etc. that's probably the key.....

                Re: Preparing to be shot down

                Posted by jimmyp on 4/8/2022, 17:36:54, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                Kind of, eh.

                But, we clapped so that's almost good enough.

                Cheers, Jim

                  Re: Preparing to be shot down

                  Posted by MVhatter on 4/8/2022, 17:53:44, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                  We may as well have just banged our heads against the wall in recognition of what NHS staff have been dealing with for pretty much ever...
                  Still, back in the real world we've got ten strikers so should now be winning a minimum 4 nil every week

              Re: Preparing to be shot down

              Posted by Morph on 4/8/2022, 16:33:08, in reply to "Preparing to be shot down"

              I’d say Ukraine is the primary cause of the current mess, followed by covid and brexit

                Re: Preparing to be shot down

                Posted by Eh on 4/8/2022, 16:50:27, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                And general money printing over the last decade or more.

                Re: Preparing to be shot down

                Posted by Andy Cappucino on 4/8/2022, 16:03:26, in reply to "Preparing to be shot down"

                Our very own Captain Hindsight

                  Re: Preparing to be shot down

                  Posted by E1 on 4/8/2022, 17:05:40, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                  ‘Let the bodies pile high’.

                  Remember who said.

                    Re: Preparing to be shot down

                    Posted by Wanderer on 4/8/2022, 16:15:31, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                    I think you will find that many people were calling this out 18 months ago.

                    But still we kept on restricting people and thinking that you can beat a virus by closing down the economy.

                    Going well for China isn’t it, still……

                      Re: Preparing to be shot down

                      Posted by Nick PBH on 4/8/2022, 16:43:17, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                      Realistically what was shut down for an extended period of time?

                      Pubs, shops, restaurants and crowds and schools.

                      People could be back at work from July 2020 , and a fair few ere still there during the 2nd and 3rd lockdowns



                        Re: Preparing to be shot down

                        Posted by The Outsider on 4/8/2022, 16:18:37, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                        What posting name were you using 18 months ago when doing so?

                      Re: Preparing to be shot down

                      Posted by Fred on 4/8/2022, 15:47:01, in reply to "Preparing to be shot down"

                      The tories are lying lefty scum, that's why!

                        Re: Preparing to be shot down

                        Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2022, 15:35:45, in reply to "Preparing to be shot down"

                        I said ages ago that future historians would look at our handling of COVID and wonder wtf we were doing with our illogical and anti-science, fear based approach

                          Re: Preparing to be shot down

                          Posted by Wanderer on 4/8/2022, 15:40:24, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                          free furlough cash / nationalising the economy / shutting down businesses at will / ruining kids education etc etc / millions missing critical medical appointments

                          Mainly because the media were 24/7 spreading fear.

                          Sadly this is now the bill.

                          For something that we should have been sensible enough to plan for and tackle appropriately.

                          I know many won’t agree but it’s now coming home to roost.

                            Re: Preparing to be shot down

                            Posted by Vegan Jim on 4/8/2022, 23:09:34, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                            Apparently, we had a pandemic response plan but we, like most of the rest of the world, abandoned it in favour of whatever the (unelected) WHO auggested we do - as influenced by Bill Gates himself, our "vaccine saviour". Ie, try describing him as that to all the people that have been injured or killed by the experimental jabs he, MSM and our wonderful Government were pushing on us from day #2.

                              Re: Preparing to be shot down

                              Posted by Bogo on 4/8/2022, 17:35:47, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                              Tell that to those that have died from covid. Numbskull.

                                Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                Posted by Vegan Jim on 4/8/2022, 23:03:40, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                And the many more that simply died *with* it - which is what the meaningless death figures try to mislead us with.

                              Re: Preparing to be shot down

                              Posted by Bogo on 4/8/2022, 15:39:47, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                              Bollocks it's the Russian. The cost of war .the continued price rise of gas and oil. Oil goes into so many products and its these products that cost more to make and therefore cost more to buy . The lock down doesn't help. But we would have recovered by now if it were not for the Russian ####ing everyone over.

                                Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                Posted by Vegan Jim on 4/8/2022, 23:11:42, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                Perfectly timed scapegoat.

                                  Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                  Posted by Nick PBH on 4/8/2022, 16:33:12, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                  Bills were going up anyway, but yep Putins little land grab attempt has cost everyone.
                                  Food prices
                                  Oil prices
                                  Gas prices

                                  Obviously to the treasury there is a cost to imposing sanctions and supplying weapons (both 100% the right thing to do). And oil companies somehow getting very rich out of it (Fuel has dropped a bit now, but nothing like the amount it shot up by)

                                  You then have issues caused by brexit and supply chain issues. China stirring the pot with Taiwan as well.

                                  All very little to do with lockdowns

                                    Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2022, 15:44:05, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                    Definitely a lot of truth in that....this war in Ukraine has caused a lot of economic damage

                                    Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                    Posted by Eh on 4/8/2022, 15:39:41, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                    +10000

                                      Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/8/2022, 15:39:35, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                      Alternatively, they could think the right thing was done so that millions of people stayed alive.

                                        Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                        Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2022, 15:46:11, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                        What, like releasing people with COVID into care homes, where more or less the only people at risk live?

                                          Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/8/2022, 15:54:15, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                          Once they stopped doing that, the rate of infection slowed. (Oddly enough, since the rules about mask-wearing have been withdrawn, it's rising again.)
                                          And you're still peddling the "old people don't matter" bollocks.

                                            Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                            Posted by Eh on 4/8/2022, 17:07:38, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                            Nothing whatsoever to do with masks, its a different variant of omicron and the vax warring and all the summer super spread events off main contributors.

                                              Re: Preparing to be shot down

                                              Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2022, 15:59:15, in reply to "Re: Preparing to be shot down"

                                              Honestly like most sane people I haven't paid attention to case rates in a long time but I'd be very surprised if cases haven't been rising and falling as normal.

                                              I've never said old people don't matter, that's just a twist you and others took to discredit whatever I say without actually having to have a sensible counterance.

                                              Anyway I've got no desire to be drawn into the usual waffling

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