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    Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

    Posted by FINLAYS FAG on 3/8/2022, 16:40:48

    I hagent seen it myself

      Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

      Posted by Herts Hatter on 4/8/2022, 8:40:20, in reply to "Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

      I was actually banned from this site a few months ago for suggesting that now might not be the time for a new Stadium. I was told I was a Watford fan trolling and I knew nothing about major construction projects. So basically there won't be a new stadium for a while yet and you can ban me again for saying it because of hyper inflation and interest rates through the roof. If that makes me a Watford fan then I will have to buy a season ticket for Vicarage Road

      Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

      Posted by CarlG on 3/8/2022, 18:26:32, in reply to "Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

      I donít think anyone expects it to be ready until at least 2028

      Nope not seen it ..

      Posted by Hatter 1 on 3/8/2022, 16:54:28, in reply to "Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

      Not particularly encouraging and I expect the next update will be the usual reasons about why itís not progressing quickly or at all:
      COVID
      Brexit
      Cost of materials
      Petrol prices
      Ukraine war
      Cost of living
      The new prime minister election

      Even in the programme on Saturday there was nothing about this fantastic new stadium weíre meant to be getting in a couple of years. Not even a centre page picture of it, itís like itís not happening and certainly not letting us get slightly excited by it. I saw the one paragraph we got about it in David Wilkinsonís notes - where cost of materials were highlighted yet again - with a very blasay comment ďIím sure Gary sweet will update us soonĒ

      I m sure I will get shot down on this, or spelling errors highlightedí but if you get past this then surely we can all see not everything is at it seems as the silence is deafening and when we do get updates itís always the negatives, never the positives!!

        Re: Nope not seen it ..

        Posted by Cowardly anonymous like you on 3/8/2022, 17:55:53, in reply to "Nope not seen it .. "

        I'll bite.

        Of those things you've mentioned (COVID, Brexit,
        Cost of materials, Petrol prices, Ukraine war, Cost of living, The new prime minister election) which ones would you say are UNreasonable justifications for a delay?

        In other words, if GS or any of 2020 came out and said "for these completely unforeseeable reasons, we have had to delay progress on the stadium" would they then, in your eyes, be villified as failures and would you demanding "sack the board"?

        Disappointing though it would be I can't begin to imagine the mountains they're having to climb just to keep little w@nkers like you happy. If it was me, I certainly wouldn't f@cking bother and wouldn't blame one iota them if they flogged the club and land to some random yank consortium.

          Re: Nope not seen it ..

          Posted by Serious questions on 3/8/2022, 18:32:10, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

          It would be a bit OTT if they gave up and sold because of posts on a messageboard!

          Realistically though, this is for a planning application. Surely steel is steel and is needed whatever? How many different versions of steel are there? Are we redrawing the designs every time the costs go up for a particular type of building material? We're never going to get an application in if that's the case.

          I'm not throwing shit, I fully support 2020 just asking questions as to the delay. Club initially said they would submit full detailed plans within 6 months of March 2021 https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2021/03/19/luton-town-drawing-up-final-plans-for-stadium-project/

            Re: Nope not seen it ..

            Posted by Cowardly anonymous like you on 3/8/2022, 19:02:55, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

            Actually, steel isn't just steel. There hundreds of different types of steel and where it comes from varies massively.

            More than that, they could switch from steel to concrete or timber or another material and I'd guess a switch would be a major structural redesign.

            More than that, what if other parties are the issue, like environmental agency about the river or whatever authrity it is that control the power station or they're having to undergo loads of geologoical surveys on groundworks.

            All is possible. And given that your link has been superseded by various notes from GS and others as recent as Saturday or towards the end of last season updating that timescale, it seems we just let them crack on.

            Like, it doesn't make sense to delay anything from their point of view unless its fully justified. Nobody should doubt that they want it done as quickly as poss. Why should we demand to know every angle at every minute?

              Re: Nope not seen it ..

              Posted by Silly Billy on 3/8/2022, 19:05:38, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

              How about feedback every month or every 6 weeks, every minute is a bit extreme in my view.

                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                Posted by Cowardly anonymous like you on 3/8/2022, 19:08:31, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                Or how about we just let them update us about once a quarter and we let them crack on? Especially given that it's all their risk and their money - who are we to demand? Whack in a few mil and may you could ask some questions and expect answers?

                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                  Posted by Reg Game on 3/8/2022, 19:43:24, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                  Whoosh.

                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                    Posted by Serious questions on 3/8/2022, 19:19:46, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                    Weíre fans.

                    Weíre entitled for regular updates, not just put up and shut up. Most of us put a fair bit of money into the club on a yearly basis

                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                      Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 19:30:59, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                      You literally just had an update that included a reference to a further, more in-depth, update due shortly.

                      Why don't you stop pissing yourself and calm the fuck down. March + 6 months is September FFS. It's the beginning of August.

                      Cheers, Jim

                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                        Posted by Jimbo on 3/8/2022, 20:10:02, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                        You got the wrong year son.

                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                          Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 20:11:42, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                          Keep reading, premo.

                          Cheers, Jim

                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                          Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 19:34:52, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                          Dated 2021.

                          Iím very calm, Iím just asking questions. People like you get all hysterical when questions are asked. Weirdo.

                            Re: Nope not seen it ..

                            Posted by Got to laugh on 3/8/2022, 19:40:55, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                            He certainly is very weird.

                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                              Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 20:03:39, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                              And yet, you're shit-scared of me you absolute throbber.

                              Imagine being scared of me. Don't turn round FFS, your shadow's behind you.

                              Cheers, Jim

                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                              Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 19:40:07, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                              Fair enough.

                              But you literally just had an update that included a reference to a further, more in-depth, update due shortly.

                              People like you (new-name wankers) seem intent on stirring discontent for whatever reason. Weird and wanky.

                              Cheers, Jim

                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 19:45:56, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                An update from 18 months ago promising the update 12 months ago. Good job we got the old name wankers (like you) to shout down people asking questions about the delay.

                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                  Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 20:01:33, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                  You literally just got an update, in the programme notes last Saturday, which referenced a further, more in-depth, update due shortly.

                                  The new-name business is important because we, very recently, were in conflict with a certain local business whose minions used to (transparently and pathetically) infest this board with negative misinformation.

                                  If you have a regular username and you want to ask genuine questions, then do so as you'd regularly ask anything else. You may then stand a chance of being perceived as a genuine person asking genuine questions rather than a snide cunt with an agenda.

                                  But, if I have to explain that...

                                  Cheers, Jim

                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                    Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 20:13:20, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                    The programme update was barely an update. And it's hardly freely available for others to read. I don't have a regular posting name. There is no requirement on here to have one. If there was it would be registration based.
                                    I'm a genuine Luton Town fan who is just concerned by the delay to the stadium. I'm surely allowed to ask questions on here without being called a snide ####? My only agenda is wanting the stadium to happen. Apologies if that offends you.

                                    (Amusingly, you have a regular posting name and fulfill all the characteristics you describe of 'new names.' Perhaps you should seek anonymity in future? I'm sure the irony isn't lost on you.)

                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                      Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 20:29:51, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                      For goodness sake, the programme notes referred to a fuller update in the 'very near future'. Just how often does that need to be pointed out???

                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                        Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 20:31:05, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                        Well, I've said it four times...

                                        Cheers, Jim

                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                        Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 20:20:54, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                        Apparently you don't know what 'irony' means.

                                        No, there's no requirement for you to use a regular name. Those who don't, usually do so for all of the obvious, cowardly, reasons that you wouldn't. Those who do, do so because they have the courage of their convictions and are happy to own the words that they use and the arguments that they espouse. It's not difficult, yet you don't or won't understand. That speaks volumes.

                                        And the update referenced a further, more in-depth, update due shortly. So, stop pissing your pants or pretending that you are for whatever reason.

                                        Cheers, Jim

                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                          Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 21:27:33, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                          Are you ok? I asked some genuine questions and you've responded by calling me a snide #### and now you're insinuating I'm a coward and saying I'm pissing my pants. No self awareness anywhere? I hope you have a bit more decorum in real life.

                                            Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                            Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 21:42:07, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                            I'm fine, apparently you don't know what irony means and have a problem with reading comprehension.

                                            I've said what I've said, you go ahead and interpret it in any way you see fit.

                                            Cheers, Jim

                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                              Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 21:50:15, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                              Attack my reading comprehension all you want, it's your prejudice which completely meant you were unable to engage with what I've said and left you calling me a #### and a coward because of your previous interactions with new name posters. But I guess your reading comprehension is totally fine

                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 21:58:26, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                Again, you want to appear to be a genuine fan, asking genuine questions, post them under the name you'd normally use. Otherwise, for reasons obvious to everyone other than you, apparently, you will be assumed to be shit-stirring.

                                                And, for the fifth time, you have literally just had an update that included a reference to a further, more in-depth, update due shortly.

                                                But, keep pissing your pants or pretending that you are for whatever reason. I've explained it in words even an idiot could understand but apparently you can't or won't. So, I won't bother wasting any more time repeating myself.

                                                Cheers, Jim

                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                  Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 22:02:23, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                  Enjoy your evening Jim. For future reference try to engage in what is being said rather than your own prejudices about who or what you think is saying it.

                                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                    Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 22:06:44, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                    Again, recognisable, regular posting name = engagement.

                                                    New, generic, name = assumption that adoption of such is for the usual, obvious, reasons.

                                                    What do you get from not understanding this if you want to be treated as genuine.

                                                    Cheers, Jim

                                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                      Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 22:16:35, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                      I think you're a reasonably smart guy more than capable of engaging with what's being said rather than launching into ad hominem because you've seen the poster's name before.

                                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                        Posted by Hmm on 3/8/2022, 22:22:04, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                        Ad hominem. How very Dr Ince.

                                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                          Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2022, 15:41:25, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "



                                                          Rent free mate, rent free


                                                          I'm just catching up on the days postings now

                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 3/8/2022, 20:15:42, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                          Have a bit of patience, can't you?

                                          So typical of the "I want it [now/i]!" generation.

                                            Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                            Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 21:46:37, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                            Eh!? It's the club who said they would have an application in the first half of the year. They set that expectation - not me.

                                            Me asking why we're behind isn't being an example of me being a want it now generation. If timetables set by the club are missed we should probably be updated. I don't demand monthly updates or anything like that. But managing PR for a project of this magnitude is vitally important. You don't want information black holes to form allowing people to fill it with fake news.

                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                              Posted by Seriously on 3/8/2022, 20:25:06, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                              Because it is an item of interest. We would all like to know the current status and kept informed by reasonably frequent updates. What is wrong with wanting to know more about the biggest topic in the history of the club?

                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 3/8/2022, 20:31:08, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/msg/1659554991.html

                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                  Posted by Seriously on 3/8/2022, 20:37:58, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                  When was the last update prior to the promise of the recent update?

                                                  I really can't see a problem with more regular updates (perhaps monthly), what's the problem with that request? Fans are interested in any progress.

                                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 21:26:38, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                    There was an update towards the end of last season, after the sale of NP. Can't remember specifically when but that's hardly any time ago given the brief summer break.

                                                    I would love more regular updates myself of course, wouldn't we all, but there is the considerable matter of commercial confidentiality - not necessarily driven by 2020 Developments but by any partners etc and the absolutely obvious fact that the first to be updated, and then to give feedback/agree etc are the investors/board before any sort of public announcement can be made.

                                                    In his notes Wilko referred to this having happened recently at a 'stadium summit' with a presentation by GS, MM, architects and advisors. He goes on to say how exciting it was and afterwards outlines some of the complexities and key factors. Then, immediately after, says that significant progress has been made and that GS will provide a full update in the 'very near future'.

                                                    I wouldn't have quoted so much of it for copyright reasons but it hasn't been put up on the OS yet, which is unusual but so is two new signings coming on top of the season opener.

                                                    I sincerely hope that those whinging and making the same complaint repeatedly get in the habit of buying a programme: it is the official voice of the club, is it not? I think - think - that you can buy it online too.

                                                    All this whinging has been a proper pain and personally I've lost patience with some of the people as they're stonewalling what has repeatedly been said or explained.

                                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                      Posted by Seriously on 3/8/2022, 21:49:49, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                      As you say, we would all like more regular updates.

                                                      I may be misinterpreting some posters but it seems they don't think that is warranted.
                                                      It seems some think this is an attack on the board for not doing so.
                                                      I believe the more information
                                                      (however small) given out by the club on the new ground can only be a positive thing and keeps the momentum going.

                                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                        Posted by Maillot Jaune on 4/8/2022, 0:01:47, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                        +1
                                                        Communication is critical and a deadline was set by the club which has passed.
                                                        Some posters are just very touchy when any questions are asked about the board and wrongly take it as an attack (almost as though it's an attack on themselves which is even more bizarre).

                                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                          Posted by jimmyp on 4/8/2022, 7:31:44, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                          Correction:

                                                          Some posters are suspicious of the motives of new-names posting alarmist nonsense about updates when they've literally just had one that included a reference to a further, more in-depth, update due shortly.

                                                          Maybe that's what you meant and your spelling is just shit. Or maybe you're just too stupid to understand something that's been explained about five times, like the new-name bloke.

                                                          Cheers, Jim

                                                            Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                            Posted by Serious question on 4/8/2022, 13:08:30, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                            Alarmist nonsense? You're completely ridiculous.

                                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                              Posted by jimmyp on 4/8/2022, 14:15:44, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                              One of us is.

                                                              I refer you to your now withdrawn assertion and the fact that it's indicative of the general quality of your reading comprehension.

                                                              Cheers, Jim

                                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                Posted by Serious question on 4/8/2022, 14:34:15, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                Yes, I made a mistake and withdrew it in good faith. Otherwise all the old name posters policing the board might think I'm Larry or Bushwood and explode in profanities.

                                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                Posted by Dr Ince on 4/8/2022, 13:14:35, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                Hello, other me

                                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                  Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2022, 15:42:47, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                  Try again Dave.


                                                                  When have I ever been critical towards the club, barring a small criticism of the shop

                                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                          Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 21:32:51, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                          The update when NP was sold said a planning application was to be made during the first halve of 2022.

                                                            Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                            Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 21:47:25, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                            It did. There has, I think, been a further statement of some sort since then. We are now 6 weeks into the second half of 2022 and Wilko's notes refer to delays.

                                                            There's not much more I can say. Despite your claims otherwise it comes across to me that you're going beyond your first point and using this as a rod to beat 2020/GS's back. I said this yesterday: why not address your complaints to the club.

                                                            Start of the season, lots of new signings and all we're getting is complaints - even when they've been comprehensively responded to to the best of any poster's abilities.

                                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                              Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 21:54:22, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                              Email the club and read the programme

                                                              Yes, I think the club can do more to manage the PR on this. I don't think Sweet is above criticism- most decent managers welcome it. I'm not using it as a rod to beat their backs with, I'm just a tad concerned.

                                                              As I said the other day, a programme update on something of this magnitude isn't enough. The website and twitter account are also official club voice's - use them.

                                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 22:01:04, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                Tell the club, I'm done with you. Good night.

                                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                  Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 22:17:04, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                  Goodnight

                                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 3/8/2022, 22:00:48, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                  That is your opinion.

                                                                  Not everyone shares it.

                                                                  Deal with it.

                                                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                    Posted by Serious question on 3/8/2022, 22:13:46, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                    I've absolutely no issue with people disagreeing with me.

                                                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                                      Posted by Esther on 3/8/2022, 22:12:57, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                                      Not everyone agrees with you either, that's life.

                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                Posted by joey diconio on 3/8/2022, 18:14:27, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                Couldnít they just say Undisclosed reasons 😉

                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                              Posted by pingu on 3/8/2022, 17:39:55, in reply to "Nope not seen it .. "

                              😆😆😆

                              mate - go and find a lady (or man) and have some real hard (safe) sex.

                              im rooting for you.

                              forza pingu

                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                Posted by mmmm on 3/8/2022, 18:15:20, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                OP is a new name idiot with a strange view on .......everything esp the new ground. However your post is .........very , very weird.

                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                  Posted by pingu on 3/8/2022, 18:17:21, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                  see above - youre another crank we have attracted who needs to find lady love.

                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                    Posted by bbb on 3/8/2022, 19:40:20, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                    Harsh.


































                                    But fair.

                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                      Posted by Noddy on 3/8/2022, 19:00:15, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                      Can't help but feel that mmmmm and hatter1 could have a lovely candlelit evening bitching about 2020 followed by some bedroom action.

                                      Might be best for everyone if they gave it a go.

                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                        Posted by Point of order on 3/8/2022, 19:19:34, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                        Given that their names are not gender-specific, if there is a chance that they could actually procreate together then it might be best for everyone if they didn't give it a go.

                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                          Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 20:08:56, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                          Given that they're probably the same, tragic, individual the gene-pool might be safe. But, if only to be complete bastards I'd second banning them wanking.

                                          Cheers, Jim

                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                        Posted by Northampton hatter on 3/8/2022, 18:23:06, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                        After last season alot of our rival championship clubs fans see us as a big rival to them.So come on outlaws to put us down but dont understand 2020 have are trust and do everything they can for the club to get a new stadium..

                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 17:15:25, in reply to "Nope not seen it .. "

                                    You seriously expected a pictorial representation of the new ground, at this time, in the first programme of a new season, with all the excitement of a fresh start, new players to introduce etc - and the first opportunity to reflect on our near miss in the play offs?

                                    You don't know much about how this world works mate! And I'm not going to shoot you down for your spelling but your counting is shite too: there were two paragraphs about PC in Wilko's notes as well as the assurance of a GS update in the near future.

                                    Here's another bloody obvious thing: the club chairman does the opening welcome to the season, the CEO probably does the next set of notes.

                                    As for that list of things you mention as if they're not really relevant - don't you think a lot of them are?

                                    It's a shame that the notes haven't gone up on the OS as usual as it leaves us open to bollox like you've just posted. Perhaps that got sidelined with two more exciting new signings?

                                    So much to be positive and enthusiastic about yet some people decide to moan and winge from day one of the season.




                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                      Posted by Gary Sweetie on 3/8/2022, 17:33:28, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                      Deluded but grateful for your happy clapping

                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 17:43:27, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                        Ah, one of the regular trolls who doesn't have the balls to post under his own name. Again.

                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                          Posted by pingu on 3/8/2022, 17:48:22, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                          he was ďASIFĒ yesterday.

                                            Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                            Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 17:52:01, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                            A sad act at every level.

                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 3/8/2022, 17:53:50, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                              Asinine Stupidly Inane Fool

                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                      Posted by EastEnder on 3/8/2022, 17:11:06, in reply to "Nope not seen it .. "

                                      And how many other clubs are currently building stadiums with the current cost of raw materials and labour.

                                      All those Poles would have built it cheap for us but people wanted high paid British labour instead.

                                        Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                        Posted by joey diconio on 3/8/2022, 17:24:38, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                        Everton is going up at quite a pace
                                        Forest will start a new main stand in May

                                          Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                          Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 17:28:04, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                          I imagine neither started without detailed planning permission though. No idea about Forest, but Everton's took longer to get than ours has so far...

                                          Meanwhile, next to the CitryofI####ingpaidforitManchester Stadium (Etihad) a new 'virtual game' and concert venue is going up rapidly. I suspect the owners have the same 'contacts' as those in Qatar.

                                            Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                            Posted by EastEnder on 3/8/2022, 17:27:01, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                            Bit easier for a Prem club to raise the finance though they can borrow against their income.





                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                              Posted by Jimmy husband's wife on 3/8/2022, 17:25:55, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                              Have they got contaminated land...
                                              4 x Electricity sub stations to move...

                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                Posted by joey diconio on 3/8/2022, 17:35:34, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                I was just answering the question

                                                I donít expect any information on the ground at all, we receive whatever morsels of information our supreme leaders deem appropriate and are bloody grateful

                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                              Posted by Jimmy husband's wife on 3/8/2022, 17:12:47, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                              That's tosh

                                              They earned the same ...

                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                Posted by EastEnder on 3/8/2022, 17:16:17, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                At the time everyone said they were driving the cost of labour down.


                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                  Posted by Jimmy husband's wife on 3/8/2022, 17:23:12, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                  Nah, they just worked harder

                                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                    Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 17:27:46, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                    Good job we fucked them off, then, eh.

                                                    Oh.

                                                    Cheers, Jim

                                                      Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                      Posted by EastEnder on 3/8/2022, 17:32:43, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                      Are boys are getting paid more to lug things around slowly though now...






                                              Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                              Posted by bbb on 3/8/2022, 17:06:33, in reply to "Nope not seen it .. "

                                              In fairness things do seen to have gone very quiet on the new ground front.
                                              But why is it that those that want to come on here and question things(like they're obviously fully entitled to do) usually feel the need to hide behind a random new posting name?

                                                Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                Posted by m on 3/8/2022, 17:27:48, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                The bloke they had lined up to do the work has been delayed as heís doing a loft conversion in Clophill thatís taken longer than planned.

                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                  Posted by GC on 3/8/2022, 17:30:25, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                  I thought it was Walthamstow?

                                                  Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                  Posted by Hatters supporter on 3/8/2022, 17:10:31, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                  Agree my post regarding this during the week was deleted.

                                                    Re: Nope not seen it ..

                                                    Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 17:08:18, in reply to "Re: Nope not seen it .. "

                                                    Ooh, I know this one.

                                                    It's because they're twats, isn't it.

                                                    Cheers, Jim

                                                  Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

                                                  Posted by jimmyp on 3/8/2022, 16:53:20, in reply to "Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

                                                  How utterly shocking that a new-name, illiterate is asking stupid questions about PC.

                                                  Cheers, Jim

                                                    Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

                                                    Posted by PR Pete on 3/8/2022, 16:57:38, in reply to "Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

                                                    If there is an information void the idiots will fill it.

                                                    It would be nice to think a timely update from the club will help quiet them down (but I doubt it.)

                                                      Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

                                                      Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 17:18:55, in reply to "Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

                                                      It never has done in the past. Whatever GS has said, whatever plans have been shared, the same old ####wits have the default position of 'I don't believe it will ever happen'.

                                                      I would like more regular updates too, we all would I suspect, but when there's not something massive to say the dickheads go into that negative mode.

                                                      Most of them don't even notice when news is shared anyhow, or maybe it suits them to say they didn't see it.

                                                    Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 3/8/2022, 16:46:51, in reply to "Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

                                                    Bored mate? This was all done just two days ago. To death, in fact.




                                                      Re: Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application

                                                      Posted by Hawkesworth on 3/8/2022, 16:46:28, in reply to "Whats everyone's opinion on the final ground design and detailed planning application "

                                                      Well done.

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