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    A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

    Posted by E1 on 25/11/2021, 11:23:58

    Perhaps before you start politicising this tragedy, stop and think about this. An unborn baby & its mother drowned.

      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

      Posted by Taffmead on 25/11/2021, 13:05:47, in reply to "A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

      Pregnant women should never be put in danger.

        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

        Posted by EastEnder on 25/11/2021, 11:55:33, in reply to "A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

        I don't believe it I read on here they were all young men.

          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

          Posted by J Block on 25/11/2021, 11:52:14, in reply to "A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

          we all appreciate that,and it is a real tragedy, but the point is France is a safe country, why risk your life and that of the baby?

            Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

            Posted by The Twitcher on 25/11/2021, 12:39:22, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

            Exactly J Block!

              Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

              Posted by E1 on 25/11/2021, 11:53:05, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

              How do you know that France is safe? Have you spoken to refugees there?

                Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 18:33:35, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                What is your problem, you only posted that comment so you could get into an argument with someone who doesnít think the way you do. Of course France is safe and so are the other 5,6,7 other countries these people pass through.they all probably stoped at Disney land Paris for a day out on the way over , it must be included in the package smuggling tour they paid for £8000 plus a sight seeing tour of the white cliffs of Dover to round things of.

                  Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                  Posted by J Block on 25/11/2021, 11:57:32, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                  what do we have to offer that France don't?

                    Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                    Posted by Taffmead on 25/11/2021, 16:54:11, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                    At George's Day?

                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                      Posted by Taffmead on 25/11/2021, 13:25:03, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                      Maybe they don't speak French but do English?

                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                      Posted by EastEnder on 25/11/2021, 12:01:55, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                      Some of them may actually have relatives here already.

                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                        Posted by The Questioner on 25/11/2021, 13:03:28, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                        Thatís such a rubbish argument. A tiny minority might but then those here would surely be helping those go through the proper channels . I posted on here a few weeks back a documentary on the bbc website that had been taken over several months where a French Journalist had been with the migrants . Not one of them mentioned having relatives here . Most of them also spoke French .
                        We should be proud that they want to come here it mean we are doing the decent thing but relatives and English arenít the core reasons .

                          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                          Posted by E1 on 25/11/2021, 12:58:57, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                          Donít bother EE. Most on here donít give a toss.

                            Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                            Posted by EastEnder on 25/11/2021, 13:00:17, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                            People who don't like or care about immigrants now outraged that 30 of them have died

                              Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                              Posted by J Block on 25/11/2021, 13:53:17, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                              i'm not outraged, i think its terrible, why are France letting them cross to their deaths?

                            Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                            Posted by RM on 25/11/2021, 12:12:40, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                            Yes some undoubtedly will, but certainly not all. Good interview with ONE migrant on BBC news at the moment detailing why he wants to come to England and live in Manchester. He has never been to Manchester though. Aparently in England there is work, its safe and there is no racism.

                              Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                              Posted by J Block on 25/11/2021, 12:04:33, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                              and the ones that don't?

                                Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                Posted by EastEnder on 25/11/2021, 12:18:35, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                We are perceived as being a more welcoming, less racist society than France, where there is plenty of work for migrants I would guess.

                                Or at least that is what they are told anyway.

                                  Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                  Posted by Billy Wallace on 25/11/2021, 12:36:28, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                  And that prooves that we arenít racist and its just woke lefties getting triggered by harmless banter and left wing facists wanting to take away are free speech .

                                  Its a FACT that the Eastern Europeanís are more racist than us and the way people from muslim cultures treat other religions and nationalities is a discrace. There the real racists like Azeem Rafiq being anti Semitic .

                                    Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                    Posted by J Block on 25/11/2021, 12:19:50, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                    yeah ok

                                    Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                    Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 12:06:12, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                    Well they can come and then send a message home and invite the rest of the family over Ö. And round and round we go

                                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                      Posted by J Block on 25/11/2021, 12:07:36, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                      i'd rather they didn't.....

                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                        Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 12:09:02, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                        Iím the same but this is the illegal immigrants merry go round and nobody seems to want to stop it.

                                          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                          Posted by EastEnder on 25/11/2021, 12:28:30, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                          Why would the govt. want to stop it when they can carry on feeding themselves from the trough whilst the public argue amongst themselves about immigrants?




                                Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                Posted by Oh ffs on 25/11/2021, 11:55:53, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                I think he means safer than where they came from.

                              Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                              Posted by Yea on 25/11/2021, 11:36:33, in reply to "A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                              Yes well said mate. The whole thing is a real humanitarian tragedy.

                                Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 11:35:38, in reply to "A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                Or a mother killed her unborn baby by illegally trying to enter the uk.

                                  Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                  Posted by The Twitcher on 25/11/2021, 12:42:35, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                  Youíll give the lefties a stroke saying that (the truth).

                                    Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 25/11/2021, 12:37:21, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                    Just when you think the inhuman sub gutter level comments can't get any worse, along pops another new name tosser. Why not make the comment under your regular posting name?

                                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                      Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 12:59:14, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                      This is my posting name ? Are you as keen to know they many names of the 20000 illegal male immigrants that have landed on our shores this year ? Is this message board not the last bastion of free speech in this cancel country we live in, get of your high horses and take those rose tinted glasses off.

                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 25/11/2021, 13:03:22, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                        Have the courage of your convictions, grow a set and post under your regular posting name. Which is not the one you are using.

                                        Spectacular use of multiple brainless cliches by the way.

                                          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                          Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 13:16:49, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                          What does it matter , your not interested in facing the reality of whatís really going on in the world , this message board is probably the only time you get to communicate with other people and when the conversation doesnít go your way you start calling people tossers

                                    Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                    Posted by E1 on 25/11/2021, 11:52:27, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                    Disgusting.

                                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                      Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 11:58:51, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                      I agree how selfish of her, was there such an urgency to leave France in a toy boat and risk her and her childís life ?

                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                        Posted by E1 on 25/11/2021, 17:22:17, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                        Iím sure you can really relate to it, you know, the bottom of humanity, utter despair, helplessness. Trying anything to give your baby a better life. Complete desperation. Sitting at your keyboard in your warm home, you can really climb inside her mind. Great stuff, great post mate. Youíll sleep better tonight.

                                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                      Posted by Mahatma Gander on 25/11/2021, 11:51:18, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                      Another one on a crusade to prove Darwin was wrong.

                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                        Posted by Flip side on 25/11/2021, 11:56:20, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                        Or letís think about the 20000 men who made it safely across this year and hope that a couple of years down the line they donít stab an MP or blow somebody up.

                                          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                          Posted by E1 on 25/11/2021, 17:32:31, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                          Yeah! You tell Ďem. Those dirty, Johnny foreigners. They all stink and all want to blow us up.

                                            Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                            Posted by Mahatma Gander on 25/11/2021, 12:12:26, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                            Or let's think about the fact that our policies have massively contributed to the problems and that this is only going to get worse as climate change really start to bite. Maybe try to do what we can to avoid the need for it instead of pretending it's a problem solely caused elsewhere.

                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                        Posted by Bless on 25/11/2021, 11:38:10, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                        ####ing Hell.

                                        Get well soon, fella.

                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                        Posted by bob on 25/11/2021, 11:35:37, in reply to "A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                        Exactly, and every one of those poor desperate wretches deaths is a tragedy wholly avoidable.

                                          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                          Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 25/11/2021, 11:47:49, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                          Truly sad..Tell me though how do you consider it unavoidable..the sea is trecherous place for those ill prepared..

                                            Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                            Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 11:49:15, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                            "wholly avoidable", the direct opposite of what you understood, FFS.

                                            Cheers, Jim

                                              Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                              Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 25/11/2021, 12:13:51, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                              Ok..wholly avoidable..pray tell how

                                                Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 13:04:05, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                So you need it explaining either way.

                                                I am genuinely not surprised.

                                                Cheers, Jim

                                                  Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                  Posted by NorthantsHatter on 25/11/2021, 13:37:32, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                  Oh dear...sounds like your Nepolean Complex has flared up again...!

                                                    Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                    Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 13:39:51, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                    What an absolutely stunning, almost comprehensive, way to exhibit your ignorance.

                                                    Cheers, Jim

                                                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                      Posted by NorthantsHatter on 25/11/2021, 13:47:36, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                      Napoleon Complex on steroids...blimey!

                                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                        Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 13:59:22, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                        All you've done there is trim just one, tiny, piece of the whole smorgasbord of ignorance.

                                                        It should be embarrassing for you but it indubitably isn't.

                                                        Cheers, Jim

                                                          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                          Posted by NorthantsHatter on 25/11/2021, 14:07:20, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                          'Smorgasbord' You really are trying too hard!

                                                            Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                            Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 14:24:30, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                            No, I'm not even trying.

                                                            You had to google it.

                                                            But, you go ahead and believe whatever you need to so you can feel this is going your way.

                                                            Cheers, Jim

                                                              Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                              Posted by NorthantsHatter on 25/11/2021, 15:02:59, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                              Sorry Jim, I work for a Swedish company and know full well what it is/means.

                                                              The point is, it's not a phrase that anyone confident in their own skin would seek to use,in ernest, on a knock about footy chat board.

                                                              You need to comprehend that!

                                                              Good luck.

                                                                Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 17:00:20, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                Bullshit, you googled it.

                                                                But, to be completely fair, it's not the word I was after because it's not really descriptive of how comprehensively your ignorance was exhibited. But, in keeping with me not even trying, I couldn't be arsed to spend any time on finding a better description.

                                                                Cheers, Jim

                                                                  Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                  Posted by NorthantsHatter on 25/11/2021, 17:32:56, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                  Likewise I can't be asked.

                                                                  I thought 'Boz' was merely taking the piss when he cited that you had a Napoleon Complex. This exchange has certainly knocked that notion out of the park.

                                                                  Thank you.

                                                                    Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                    Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 17:44:07, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                    Ah, back to the original ignorance a full-circle. Much like a ringpiece this one.

                                                                    You know what, it does lose something without the misspelling. It's like a turd cake without the turd cherry.

                                                                    Cheers, Jim

                                                                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                      Posted by NorthantsHatter on 25/11/2021, 18:27:05, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                      Eat a lot of turds do you?

                                                                      That would explain a lot.

                                                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                        Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 19:13:58, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                        Yeah, you got that from what I said.

                                                                        Which is why you really should stay away from the 'pretending that I'm the thick one' trope but I rather hope you don't.

                                                                        Cheers, Jim

                                                                      Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                      Posted by Mahatma Gander on 25/11/2021, 17:59:20, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                      Yoda, how many times have I told you to stop impersonating jimmyp?

                                                                        Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                        Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 19:15:08, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                        According to my weirdo superfan, I'm probably old enough.

                                                                        Although one thread yesterday reminded me that I'm young enough to have sat GCSEs rather than O Levels.

                                                                        Cheers, Jim

                                                                          Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                          Posted by Mahatma Gander on 25/11/2021, 20:21:42, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                          Ah, the easy exams, as I often tell my daughter .

                                                                            Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                            Posted by jimmyp on 25/11/2021, 20:40:19, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                            Back when I did them it depended on which examining board you had.

                                                                            Mine were the most difficult, obvs. Equivalent to a PhD these days, I shouldn't wonder.

                                                                            Cheers, Jim

                                                                              Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants

                                                                              Posted by Mahatma Gander on 25/11/2021, 21:03:50, in reply to "Re: A pregnant woman among the dead migrants "

                                                                              All I know is that mine were hard enough and the work my daughter was doing was country miles ahead of mine by anyone's standards. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

                                                                              Still, Uni seems to be making her work hard .

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