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    "Give us a job"

    Posted by Archdeacon on 12/10/2021, 10:37:10

    New figures from the ONS show the UKs unemployment rate is now roughly 4.5%, compared to around 5% before the start of the pandemic with the majority of industries across the economy seeing notable quarterly growth. Even so, the number of vacancies has also hit a record high, with over 1.1 million jobs available across sectors such as retail and manufacturing. The data shows there are 3.7 vacancies for every 100 employee jobs.

      Re: "Give us a job"

      Posted by crumpsall on 12/10/2021, 10:48:04, in reply to ""Give us a job""

      4.6 compared to 4 pre pandemic actually.

        Re: "Give us a job"

        Posted by The Questioner on 12/10/2021, 13:24:11, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

        But we have over a million job vacancies so reasonable to say we are likely to have the most people employed in the UK ever in the near future .

          Re: "Give us a job"

          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/10/2021, 13:27:05, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

          That depends on what industries the jobs are in and the skills and qualifications those who are unemployed have, does it not?

            Re: "Give us a job"

            Posted by The Questioner on 12/10/2021, 15:05:10, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

            We are discussing employment not its demographics.

              Re: "Give us a job"

              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/10/2021, 15:56:38, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

              But the demographics have an impact on unemploymnt and unfolded vacancies.


              It's no use offering an IT consultant's job to a bricklayer.

                Re: "Give us a job"

                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/10/2021, 15:56:57, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                Or vice versa.

              Re: "Give us a job"

              Posted by The Orange Salopian on 12/10/2021, 13:47:56, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

              There are a lot of "skilled" vacancies and these cannot be filled quickly.

              I've been looking for some part time work but most of the jobs I see advertised are full time and on reasonable wages, might have to bite the bullet next year and go back full time for a while.

            Re: "Give us a job"

            Posted by Joker on 12/10/2021, 12:12:18, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

            Are you involved in local or national politics Crumps? Clearly have a passion, considered standing?

              Having been outed as a confirmed

              Posted by Stalin on 12/10/2021, 12:38:06, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

              Communist, crumpy pretends to be a moderate these days.

              Re: "Give us a job"

              Posted by crumpsall on 12/10/2021, 12:28:10, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

              I'm not mate, but very interested and indeed passionate about it. I've never felt entirely comfortable about any party to be honest, and have had unfortunate experiences with both the far left and the far right - extremism of any sort doesn't sit well with me.

              I've always mixed with people who are interested in and involved in politics, though, from both Labour and Conservative sides. I was disappointed that the Social Democrats crashed and burned.

              Nearest I got to local politics was around planning permission etc for PC and NP, but as I'm not a Luton resident that was purely on the practical support side.

              Re: "Give us a job"

              Posted by The Orange Salopian on 12/10/2021, 11:41:27, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

              ONS figures show unemployment at 4.6% against 4% pre pandemic. Employment is at 75.2% against 76.5% pre pandemic.

              I really do not understand how people can misinterpret figures so easily, are you a member of the Tory party.

                Re: "Give us a job"

                Posted by The Orange Salopian on 12/10/2021, 11:43:17, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                Not you Crumps, posted in the wrong place, I know your a Reform UK member

                  Re: "Give us a job"

                  Posted by crumpsall on 12/10/2021, 11:48:02, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                  Hahaha!

                  Wilfully misrepresenting it I'd say - outright lying is the new normal it seems.

                Re: "Give us a job"

                Posted by Andy Cappucino on 12/10/2021, 11:30:37, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                Source?

                  Re: "Give us a job"

                  Posted by The Orange Salopian on 12/10/2021, 13:04:49, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                  More false information, Employment levels are 1.3% lower than February 2020.

                  Interesting thing is that now there are over 1 in 5 people economically inactive.

                    Re: "Give us a job"

                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/10/2021, 13:19:16, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                    Doesn't "economically inactive" include those who are unable to work because of illness and disability, plus retired people (most of whom left school at a young age and didn't go to university?

                      Re: "Give us a job"

                      Posted by The Orange Salopian on 12/10/2021, 13:37:48, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                      No, people who are unable to work through Disability are in the Unemployment figure if they are claiming ESA or UC.

                      Economically Inactive are people that are of working age but not working and not claiming. Effectively people not looking for work, not in full time education, Caring for a family member or have taken early retirement.

                        Re: "Give us a job"

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/10/2021, 15:59:57, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                        Ok. I would say that if they are in those categories, they are "economically active" by spending money, probably in local shops and for essentials like food and heating etc.

                    Re: "Give us a job"

                    Posted by The Orange Salopian on 12/10/2021, 11:44:20, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                    https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/employmentintheuk/september2021

                      Re: "Give us a job"

                      Posted by crumpsall on 12/10/2021, 11:36:40, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                      Just on the news. BBC so you'll probably claim they are lying of course...

                        Re: "Give us a job"

                        Posted by Andy Cappucino on 12/10/2021, 12:47:05, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                        BBC saying 4.5 pc compared with 4pc pre pandemic. Sounds like they are contradicting themselves, if they are not lying they are just plain useless. Employment levels are back at pre pandemic levels btw, cue accusations of 'whataboutery'

                          Re: "Give us a job"

                          Posted by crumpsall on 12/10/2021, 12:52:37, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                          How do you work that out? You're not making a whole lot of sense there - and Archdeacon claimed 5% pre pandemic, presumably because he wants that to be the case because it suits him, rather than basing it on facts? Where are you getting your pre pandemic claim from?

                        Re: "Give us a job"

                        Posted by EastEnder on 12/10/2021, 11:32:25, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                        The BBC.

                        Re: "Give us a job"

                        Posted by jimmyp on 12/10/2021, 10:48:59, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                        So, it's a 'yeah, but, covid' then?

                        Cheers, Jim

                          Re: "Give us a job"

                          Posted by crumpsall on 12/10/2021, 10:51:47, in reply to "Re: "Give us a job""

                          Figures don't express how many people are on low hours either - if they're on a payroll they are deemed to be employed.


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