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    Useless Tories part 247

    Posted by Teacher on 7/10/2021, 20:39:09

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/07/coronavirus-report-warned-of-impact-on-uk-four-years-before-pandemic?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

      Re: Useless Tories part 247

      Posted by The Orange Salopian on 8/10/2021, 11:20:33, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"

      Who has the highest excess death rate since the start of the pandemic, the UK or Spain. For the record I firmly believe that Spain have not been truthful over covid death figures with many recorded as Pneumonia.

        Re: Useless Tories part 247

        Posted by Teacher on 8/10/2021, 19:40:17, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

        I believe the Spanish health authorities over hearsay.

        The Spanish have had, and continue to have, much more stringent Covid controls than the UK.

          Re: Useless Tories part 247

          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 8/10/2021, 12:02:02, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

          What evidence have you for that belief?

            Re: Useless Tories part 247

            Posted by The Orange Salopian on 8/10/2021, 13:01:47, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

            It's not a belief it's a fact, not hard to research Nag.

            My daughter has lived in Spain for the majority of the last 6 years and two of her friends have lost grandparents to covid but both deaths recorded as Pneumonia.

            Excess Deaths

              Re: Useless Tories part 247

              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 8/10/2021, 13:11:29, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

              Ok. I sit corrected.

                Re: Useless Tories part 247

                Posted by The Orange Salopian on 8/10/2021, 13:51:54, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                The whole thing is a web of confusion. Spain have some massive advantages over the UK, better weather means less indoor socialising, population density is 1/3 of the UK and a public that are far more inclined to follow government advice. Whether following government advice is a hangover from Franco or, as I witnessed in Barcelona, a fear of the police who take no prisoners.

                The reality is for all of the shouting we will not know for many years the true impact which can only accurately be measured in excess deaths. How many women will die from Breast Cancer because of missed screenings, how many will die through Mental Health Issues etc.

                I know people like to ram our covid death figures down the governments throat but I believe they are being as transparent as they can be and as such many of the deaths attributed to covid are not because of covid.

                  Re: Useless Tories part 247

                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 8/10/2021, 14:31:20, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                  But they could be because having Covid has exacerbated an existing condition. It's not either/or.

                    Re: Useless Tories part 247

                    Posted by The Orange Salopian on 8/10/2021, 14:47:06, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                    In some cases yes, in others people have died for other reasons but have tested positive for covid even though it has had no impact. Thats the difference between UK reporting and most other countries.

          Re: Useless Tories part 247

          Posted by Where have you been? on 8/10/2021, 8:34:00, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"

          Titanic ect ect. Subject done to death months ago.I suppose this will get deleted again.

            Re: Useless Tories part 247

            Posted by Cheated on 7/10/2021, 22:38:00, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"

            Massive investment at Nissan in Sunderland and now massive investment in Newcastle, the richest football club in the world. Suck on that remainers. Levelling up Brexit Boris style

              Re: Useless Tories part 247

              Posted by Maccacracker on 8/10/2021, 9:13:14, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

              ha,the Guardian.

                Re: Useless Tories part 247

                Posted by crumpsall on 8/10/2021, 10:21:00, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                Your point being what?

                The braindead comments every time the Guardian is mentioned are very telling - about the people making them.

                  Re: Useless Tories part 247

                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 8/10/2021, 10:37:49, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                  It's as though they've had a chip inserted in what passes for their brains that triggers an automatic programmed response.

                Re: Useless Tories part 247

                Posted by Noddy on 8/10/2021, 0:32:59, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                Top trolling as ever.

                  Re: Useless Tories part 247

                  Posted by jimmyp on 8/10/2021, 7:52:32, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                  I'm not sure he doesn't mean it.

                  And even if he doesn't, I guarantee an uncomfortable number of divs nodded along while they read that.

                  Cheers, Jim

                  Re: Useless Tories part 247

                  Posted by Gammon Egg and Chips on 7/10/2021, 22:45:09, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                  No nation was ever allowed to take over a football club to sportswash pre Brexit.

                  Re: Useless Tories part 247

                  Posted by Living in denial on 7/10/2021, 22:19:58, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"

                  Deaths per million - better performance than many EU27 countries such as Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Slovenia, Belgium, Italy and Romania. Poland and Spain almost same story... the lag of serious cases are greater in Germany and France, so sit back and watch the race to the bottom you are obviously enjoying.

                  Link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

                    Re: Useless Tories part 247

                    Posted by Merve on 7/10/2021, 22:15:23, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"

                    No idea the Guardian still existed , thought it went out with Corbyn

                      Re: Useless Tories part 247

                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 22:20:28, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                      Shows what an ignorant twerp you are, newname.

                        Re: Useless Tories part 247

                        Posted by Merve on 8/10/2021, 9:41:50, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                        Suck it up pal

                          Re: Useless Tories part 247

                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 8/10/2021, 9:45:15, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                          What, the fact that you're an ignorant twerp who's scared to use a usual name or has never posted before?

                          When are you Leavers going to bite the bullet and admit you were wrong?

                          Re: Useless Tories part 247

                          Posted by coolio on 8/10/2021, 9:18:44, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                          Ive told you many times over the years that the Guardian is only good for toilet paper for anglers,

                            Re: Useless Tories part 247

                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 8/10/2021, 9:42:48, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                            And you've been wrong every single time.

                            Sod off back to your ex-miner's hovel, you sad little excuse for a human being.

                        Re: Useless Tories part 247

                        Posted by Winged Hatter on 7/10/2021, 21:41:15, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"

                        Did the report say lockdown earlier?

                          Re: Useless Tories part 247

                          Posted by EastEnder on 7/10/2021, 21:12:04, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"

                          I see even Tim Gammonhead has come out and said this is the worst government in the past 40 years now...

                            Re: Useless Tories part 247

                            Posted by The Orange Salopian on 8/10/2021, 11:22:06, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                            only because they won't bail him out.

                              Re: Useless Tories part 247

                              Posted by Teacher on 7/10/2021, 21:15:03, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                              Indeed!

                              Re: Useless Tories part 247

                              Posted by Xray on 7/10/2021, 20:46:21, in reply to "Useless Tories part 247"


                              Covid was an opportunity to repay favours and make lots of money for them....and themselves.

                                Re: Useless Tories part 247

                                Posted by Teacher on 7/10/2021, 21:25:42, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                                Yep!

                                  Re: Useless Tories part 247

                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 21:19:35, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                                  Spot on

                                    Re: Useless Tories part 247

                                    Posted by clarky on 7/10/2021, 21:26:50, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                                    come on then lets hear your real views instead of emojies and plus ones all the time

                                      Re: Useless Tories part 247

                                      Posted by What??? on 7/10/2021, 21:31:19, in reply to "Re: Useless Tories part 247"

                                      NaG expresses her views a lot on here, perhaps you only understand the pictures not the words?

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