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    Newcastle

    Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 15:02:36

    Their fans no doubt excited at the prospect of be-headers, women and gay haters, alleged murderers and Wahhabists taking over the club

    But they have to compete with other billionaires. So, if everyone is rich, then surely, no one is rich?

    Also, there are only so many good players that exist in a generation or in a snapshot of time. The danger is that a lot of money could be spent at Newcastle on relative dross

    Sums English football up though when it's TV piracy that's the blocker to a deal and not human rights

    So, fellow Hatters, how would you feel if something similar happened to us?

      Re: Newcastle

      Posted by Ramridge Raider on 7/10/2021, 19:47:36, in reply to "Newcastle"

      The Premier League now has three clubs that are effectively state owned. All three states are not particularly renowned for their adherence to human rights.

      Greed has now totally consumed the Premier League and it's many followers.

        Re: Newcastle

        Posted by St Evenage Hatter on 7/10/2021, 17:36:57, in reply to "Newcastle"

        We would apply to join the Bundesliga where clubs are run (more) properly.

        Komm schon, ihr Hutmacher!!

          Re: Newcastle

          Posted by HemHat on 7/10/2021, 17:28:09, in reply to "Newcastle"

          yeah would be good

            Re: Newcastle

            Posted by Fife Hatter on 7/10/2021, 19:50:24, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

            Current owners etc are gems. Wouldnt want others.

            Re: Newcastle

            Posted by Alfie on 7/10/2021, 17:23:00, in reply to "Newcastle"

            The only reason I am interested in football is because of 2020. I despise the way most football clubs are run. If this kind of thing ever happens at Luton, which it probably will at some point if Power Court is able to take us to the next level, my interest in football will end. All the obscene amounts of money being thrown at clubs makes me cringe. Let’s face it, it is all foreign ‘investment’ as well. Fans lap it up and seemingly don’t care where the money comes from.

              Re: Newcastle

              Posted by Really on 7/10/2021, 17:25:17, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

              The ONLY reason? Are you sure?

                Re: Newcastle

                Posted by Alfie on 7/10/2021, 18:13:46, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                Errr yes. I am sure.

                  Re: Newcastle

                  Posted by Really on 7/10/2021, 18:30:15, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                  You should try getting out more.

              Re: Newcastle

              Posted by Homer on 7/10/2021, 16:07:50, in reply to "Newcastle"


              Keep this bored poliTICKS please

                Re: Newcastle

                Posted by RADSB on 7/10/2021, 16:06:00, in reply to "Newcastle"

                If they, or Chinese or Cubans or any other oppressive regime took over LTFC then welcome AFC Luton.

                  Re: Newcastle

                  Posted by Andy Cappucino on 7/10/2021, 15:51:39, in reply to "Newcastle"

                  I'm no fan of the foreign takeover of English football but how do you know those taking over Newcastle are beheaders? Sounds a bit racist tbh, surprised the Leftwaffe haven't pounced.

                    Re: Newcastle

                    Posted by Noddy on 7/10/2021, 17:21:34, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                    The "Saudis" buying Newcastle are an agency of the Saudi Arabian Government. Saudi Arabia has beheadings as a method of execution.

                    Disappointing but not surprising to see you engage in abuse rather than checking facts.

                      Re: Newcastle

                      Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 16:41:34, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"



                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia

                      Leftwaffe? What alt-right website did you get that off mate?

                        Re: Newcastle

                        Posted by Bless on 7/10/2021, 17:02:04, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                        A delightfully fitting definition here from Urban Dictionary:

                        A play on words describing anyone on the left as members of the Luftwaffe, used by right-wing bootlickers to describe anyone who asks questions of the United Kingdom's Conservative Government, in an attempt to sound intelligent and original.


                          Re: Newcastle

                          Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 17:04:32, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"


                          Re: Newcastle

                          Posted by Realistic on 7/10/2021, 16:45:38, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                          As crumpsall points out below, he (and only he) has been using that word an awful lot lately. I think he keeps posting it in anticipation of someone letting him know what a great word it is and in the absence of getting that pat on the back he craves, he posts it again and again.

                            Re: Newcastle

                            Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 16:48:10, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                            Indeed

                            Like a child who has learnt a new word and then over-uses it in a 'look at me, look at me, aren't I clever' way

                              Re: Newcastle

                              Posted by jimmyp on 7/10/2021, 16:47:42, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                              He thinks it's really witty and clever, which is quite sweet in a charmingly naive way.

                              But then he thinks anyone who can look up some numbers and apply some logic to them must be some sort of genius, who is therefore to be treated with derision and scorn like those speccies who read books FOR PLEASURE, FFS!!!

                              Cheers, Jim

                            Re: Newcastle

                            Posted by crumpsall on 7/10/2021, 15:57:15, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                            Change the record mate, it must be a dozen times a day you use the pitifully unclever (and inherently racist/nationalist) Leftwaffe jibe.

                            It might have been vaguely amusing once, but it's more than a bit tired the thousandth time, and makes you look like a one-trick pony.

                              Re: Newcastle

                              Posted by HH on 7/10/2021, 15:55:52, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                              How do we know if the Saudi state are beheaders?

                              Really?

                                Re: Newcastle

                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 16:07:53, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                Tssk
                                We have to be nice to the Saudis, they're are fwends and buy are armaments.

                                  Re: Newcastle

                                  Posted by Really on 7/10/2021, 17:09:45, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                  Literally no one has ever said that. Besides you this afternoon.

                                    Re: Newcastle

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 7/10/2021, 17:11:41, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                    Not only have many, many people said similar, a huge amount of them have been in government.

                                      Re: Newcastle

                                      Posted by Really on 7/10/2021, 17:22:07, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                      So you agree no one has actually said it then?

                                        Re: Newcastle

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 7/10/2021, 17:26:10, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                        Eh?

                                        no one has ever said that


                                        Yes they have, and I've just said who.

                                        Unless you're being silly about the fact NaG wrote 'fwends'.

                                        Our government (all hues) has kissed the arse of the Saudis for decades, because we want to sell them arms.

                                        But I'm sure you know that.

                                        And 'kissed the arse' is being used as an expression, not as a fact, just to help.

                                          Re: Newcastle

                                          Posted by jimmyp on 7/10/2021, 17:38:07, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                          Come now, unless you can produce video evidence of many members of bozo's government saying that EXACT thing then nothing like it has ever happened or ever will.

                                          Cheers, Jim

                                            Re: Newcastle

                                            Posted by Really on 7/10/2021, 17:48:17, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                            Well not quite that far but some kind of evidence to backs up the claim would be good. Or have we just become a society where we can slander anybody on this board without a shred of evidence?

                                              Re: Newcastle

                                              Posted by jimmyp on 7/10/2021, 18:38:57, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                              No, sure, you go ahead and tell me that in your entire life you've never heard anything of the kind associated with the House of Saud and will not believe it unless someone shows you some evidence right now.

                                              Cheers, Jim

                                                Re: Newcastle

                                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 18:05:02, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                "Slander"?

                                                Are you oblivious to the well-documented human rights abuses, including beheadings of dissidents?
                                                And the absolute silence from the UK government (of all hues), when asked to make representations to the Saudi government?

                                                Must be nice to live in a little bubble.

                                              Re: Newcastle

                                              Posted by Really on 7/10/2021, 17:28:13, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                              Make your mind up. Either they have said that or they've said similar. Which one is it?
                                              Which people in government?

                                                Re: Newcastle

                                                Posted by HH on 7/10/2021, 17:47:51, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                "I'm here to emphasise the friendship that exists between the UK and Saudi Arabia, and that is something that is developing and expanding"

                                                Boris Johnson, 2016.

                                                  Re: Newcastle

                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 7/10/2021, 17:47:14, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                  Sorry, can't be arsed getting into that sort of nonsense.

                                                  Find someone else to bicker like a 2 year old with.

                                    Re: Newcastle

                                    Posted by HemHat on 7/10/2021, 15:44:27, in reply to "Newcastle"

                                    yes please

                                      Re: Newcastle

                                      Posted by Ches Fordroad on 7/10/2021, 15:11:08, in reply to "Newcastle"

                                      Not for me, thanks.

                                      If I didn't give a #### about who owns the club I follow, I'd be a customer at the Udinese franchise or the wankeydome.

                                        Re: Newcastle

                                        Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 15:14:42, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                        Before this saga, I gave the self-styled "bestest fans in the world" the same sort of credit

                                        I was wrong

                                          Re: Newcastle

                                          Posted by Ches Fordroad on 7/10/2021, 15:20:55, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                          Afraid I didn't ..... I get that Ashley is a coin-eyed tosser they're rightly desperate to see the back of, but ever since this takeover was first mooted they've turned a blind eye to the less pleasant side of their potential new owners

                                            Re: Newcastle

                                            Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 15:25:26, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                            Yeah, when I say saga, I meant the last 12-15 months or so when this possibility first reared its ugly head.

                                            Before then, I thought they had some collective class about them despite the fatsos who seem obsessed about showing the world their massive whale bellies and the fact they think that every other football fan in the world is, somehow, inferior to them. Oh and their outrageous sense of entitlement

                                            But apart from that, I thought they had an ok fanbase. Now, I don't

                                              Re: Newcastle

                                              Posted by jimmyp on 7/10/2021, 16:45:38, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                              To be completely fair to all involved, Ashley is a twat but his absolute refusal to pump tons of his own cash (and by default insistence that the club is reasonably soundly run - economically anyway) is the biggest problem the BESTEST FANS IN THE WORLD have with him.

                                              So, fuck 'em.

                                              Cheers, Jim

                                                Re: Newcastle

                                                Posted by m on 7/10/2021, 16:48:12, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                they are debt free. And they've spent 100 million in 2 seasons in players. And it's still not good enough for them!!

                                                  Re: Newcastle

                                                  Posted by bbb on 7/10/2021, 17:08:42, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                  Unbelievable really. I find it hilarious that they still seem to think they're a huge club despite not winning a major trophy since the 50s.

                                                    Re: Newcastle

                                                    Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 16:50:21, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                    Agreed. And with jimmyp's point too

                                          Re: Newcastle

                                          Posted by Kurious Oranj on 7/10/2021, 15:07:54, in reply to "Newcastle"

                                          I would worry that the soul of our club would be eroded.

                                          We have the best custodians and I don't think we would allow Shiek Ya Dollers to undermine that.

                                          What football has to recognise is that we can't all win.

                                          Happy with the club we are. Let Newcastle imagine they are world class for a bit

                                            Re: Newcastle

                                            Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/10/2021, 15:07:25, in reply to "Newcastle"

                                            How would I feel?

                                            Gutted.

                                            The way we are run at the moment is the way it should be. No-one, including 2020, would say they were absolutely perfect but by God, they are close.

                                              Re: Newcastle

                                              Posted by Frank on 7/10/2021, 17:04:54, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                              +1

                                                Re: Newcastle

                                                Posted by Music Critic on 7/10/2021, 15:13:32, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                I should add that 2020 are, by a country mile, the best owners we've ever had and hope they never leave

                                                But, one day, they will leave (or have a significant change of personnel at least). And, if we are up for grabs one day, I'd confidently bet that a certain % of Luton fans would welcome the prospect. Maybe not someone as extreme as the terrorist-funders and Yemeni-bombers that are based in Riyadh. But a lot of people would still probably turn a blind eye to, er, less-than-ideal characters taking the club over if they promised to spend hundreds of millions

                                                It's incredible to me how Newcastle fans are justifying this takeover and how, largely, the media are taking a completely uncritical view of this

                                                  Re: Newcastle

                                                  Posted by Alfie on 7/10/2021, 17:26:52, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                  2020 are best owners any club has ever had. What they have done for this club in the current climate of COVID and corrupt owners of other clubs is unbelievable.

                                                    Re: Newcastle

                                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 17:27:17, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                    Absolutonly

                                                    Re: Newcastle

                                                    Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/10/2021, 16:26:17, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                    You're right, it's sad but true. Of course it would be exciting in a way to see top quality players in the team but it's really not the same and I think that novelty would wear off quickly for me.

                                                    The PL and other rich leagues have undoubtedly raised the game to new levels of fitness, tactical awareness and indeed skill and technical ability while making grounds more safe and comfortable and raising the standard of the pitches by country miles.

                                                    Does all that make it any more exciting than Luton - Watford on a pudding of a pitch in the 80s? Hell no.

                                                    As for the media, it's no surprise given who most of them are owned by that they don't criticise rich crooks .

                                                      Re: Newcastle

                                                      Posted by m on 7/10/2021, 16:33:33, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                      would you take one season in the premier league? Not spending on the team and just take some of the results we might take at he hands of City etc for 150 million quid ?

                                                        Re: Newcastle

                                                        Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/10/2021, 18:23:38, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                        Probably, mainly because I think 2020 deserve that kind of windfall to help them build the club.

                                                      Re: Newcastle

                                                      Posted by Kurious Oranj on 7/10/2021, 15:32:21, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                      Newcastle have not won anything since 1950. Their view that they are top 5 is a bit offline. Recent years they have come second a lot normally to nil.

                                                      Keegan team were great to watch but flawed at the top level.

                                                      And they speak funny. Half fax machine half dolphin

                                                        Re: Newcastle

                                                        Posted by Main Stander on 7/10/2021, 16:00:10, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                        Have to say this is the moral dilemma of our time. I'd honestly hate to have the tourists who'd suddenly start supporting a richer club. We all know the ones who phone talksport and moan when you don't beat Burnley at home as if it's a God given right. Earn your success!

                                                          Re: Newcastle

                                                          Posted by m on 7/10/2021, 16:09:42, in reply to "Re: Newcastle"

                                                          I guess the issue is you have to have serious money to have the sort of success most fans want. Ie the Prem league. maybe not for us at present. But like you say I bet if you asked the fan base I reckon it would be spilt down the middle

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