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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

    Posted by The Questioner on 7/10/2021, 8:03:32

    Sorry to piss on your cornflakes EE Ö..but looks like employment is going in the right direction.

      Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

      Posted by KS on 7/10/2021, 11:12:39, in reply to "https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

      It says there's a tight Labour market.

      Seeing as we ve blocked off the traditional solution of increasing the labour supply, the labour shortage will have to solved either by increasing productivity, notoriously difficult in the UK, but in any event not achieved quickly or by "exporting jobs".

        Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

        Posted by HH on 7/10/2021, 11:32:53, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

        It's weird how the government seems to think there is a link between immigration and productivity and that you can increase it by reducing a workforce.

        Newsnight certainly questioned that approach last night.

        All the government seems to do is shout about levelling up without actually any idea how they're going to do it or fund it.

          Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

          Posted by Rotten Government Spotter on 7/10/2021, 12:00:42, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

          And which won't happen anyway. If anybody is stupid enough to believe that the Tories really want to 'level-up' then they're more stupid then they should think on.

            Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

            Posted by KS on 7/10/2021, 11:58:07, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

            I suppose an argument can be made, (and a Thatcherite one in many respects), that weaning business off the "cheap" labour option is exactly the boot up the backside they need to invest, innovate, train, automate, etc to radically improve productivity.

            Weaning may not be what's taking place. Cold Turkey may be more appropriate. There's a big danger that businesses will go bust in the same way that 70's style wage inflation led to early 80's style unemployment.

            A key indicator is going to be the exchange rate over the next few months. If the pound weakens significantly it's going to be hard for the BOE's to resist pressure to raise interest rates.

              Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

              Posted by HH on 7/10/2021, 12:13:49, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

              Indeed. Newsnight pointed out last night the argument about productivity and immigration is let down by the fact that France and Germany, both countries with high immigration, have higher productivity than us.

              Also, business investment has been reasonably strong, so not sure people can say they haven't been investing.

              There is a danger you could end up with lower productivity as a result rather than more productive. Wages will go up but without an increase in productivity we could suffer higher rises in inflation.

              I think the government is taking an enormous gamble on all of this. A complete punt that everything will be ok.

            Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

            Posted by KS on 7/10/2021, 11:14:20, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

            Sorry I meant to add .

            Yeah...but
            err.....Brexit....err.....Boris....err...Tories....err...

            Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

            Posted by Mmmmm on 7/10/2021, 9:19:38, in reply to "https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

            I'd take anything the BBC say with a pinch of salt. They managed to predict a fuel shortage days before it happened but took decades to discover Jimmy Saville was a nonce.

              Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

              Posted by RADSB on 7/10/2021, 8:50:15, in reply to "https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

              Yeah...but err.....Brexit....err.....Boris....err...Tories....err.... other stupid comments along Party lines.

                Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

                Posted by Andy Cappucino on 7/10/2021, 8:46:35, in reply to "https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

                Someone from the Leftwaffe brains trust will dream up a reason why this is wrong, post a long rambling piece explaining their workings, and then we'll have the usual back slapping.

                  Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

                  Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/10/2021, 8:55:37, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

                  What normally actually happens is that they explain why you're an idiot and then everyone laughs at you.

                    Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

                    Posted by jimmyp on 7/10/2021, 12:01:40, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

                    To be fair, that is what he said.

                    It's just not what he thought he was saying.

                    Cheers, Jim

                  To make things easier

                  Posted by Kenny Lower now J Block on 7/10/2021, 8:21:22, in reply to "https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515"

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58794515

                    Re: To make things easier

                    Posted by The Questioner on 7/10/2021, 8:43:26, in reply to "To make things easier "

                    😂😂

                      Re: To make things easier

                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 9:02:50, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                      People who were furloughed going back to work does not mean new jobs.
                      Itís not rocket science.

                        Re: To make things easier

                        Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 7/10/2021, 9:09:13, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                        Straw clutching post of the day.

                          Re: To make things easier

                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 10:17:39, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                          Pointing out facts is not straw-clutching.
                          Using a return to work by people who were in employment as evidence of increasing employment is.



                            Re: To make things easier

                            Posted by jimmyp on 7/10/2021, 12:05:42, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                            Particularly as what is most likely to happen is that now the financial support to keep those jobs is being withdrawn a percentage of those jobs will now disappear and there will therefore be more people out of work.

                            But, yeah, bravo Bozo.

                            Cheers, Jim

                            Re: To make things easier

                            Posted by Here's an idea on 7/10/2021, 9:12:32, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                            Why not try to post something useful rather than being a slimey twat all day long Sendero?

                            Re: To make things easier

                            Posted by Oooo yeah on 7/10/2021, 9:07:15, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                            Nobody said it did. But the mass unemployment following Furlough that was predicted by many has not happened.
                            Bravo Boris.

                              Re: To make things easier

                              Posted by Noddy on 7/10/2021, 9:45:44, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                              Two things.

                              First of all we're clearly in an environment where there are not enough workers to fill jobs. That's why pigs are being culled, why there was a problem delivering fuel and why crop are rotting in fields. So a wave of redundancies was never going to be likely.

                              Secondly. Boris has made it abundantly clear he isn't responsible for labour shortages and it is on business to solve this. So you're giving him credit for something he has explicitly said isn't within his remit.

                              Bravo business and excellent news for people to be back working. I've been unemployed. it wasn't nice.

                                Re: To make things easier

                                Posted by The Orange Salopian on 7/10/2021, 11:10:31, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                We are in an environment where we have 4.7 Million unemployed and over 1 Million job vacancies so how are there not enough workers to fill jobs.

                                Too many employers have sat on their hands for years in regard to sourcing and training workers. Companies like BP have turned to agencies to provide their drivers rather than employee their own to save on Pensions etc.

                                It is far too easy these days for companies to employee temporary labour which is cheap and easy to discard of, see Vauxhall Luton as an example. Unions have been stripped of their powers to oppose this and are unable to stop this erosion of workers rights.

                                  Re: To make things easier

                                  Posted by Kenny Lower now J Block on 7/10/2021, 11:39:18, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                  Dossers claiming benefits when they are fit to work!

                                    Re: To make things easier

                                    Posted by The Orange Salopian on 7/10/2021, 11:42:23, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                    Some yes but many in that figure are people that genuinely can't work like my Mrs who get very little support form the state.

                                    Re: To make things easier

                                    Posted by Factcheck on 7/10/2021, 11:16:31, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                    It's 4.7%, not 4.7 million.

                                      Re: To make things easier

                                      Posted by The Orange Salopian on 7/10/2021, 11:40:52, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                      We have an employment rate of 75% which means that around 6 Million people are not working. I am one of those but I do not show on the unemployment rate as I am not claiming but I am looking for work. I am lucky enough to be able to be very picky about what I do and I only want to work a coupe of days a week.

                                    Re: To make things easier

                                    Posted by Oooo yeah on 7/10/2021, 9:47:42, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                    Well thankfully under Boris you won't be unemployed again.
                                    Bravo Boris.

                                      Re: To make things easier

                                      Posted by Stat Hat on 7/10/2021, 9:56:16, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                      Damn right. Because as soon as the tide begins to turn and the shit hits the fan Boris will be riding off into the sunset.

                                        Re: To make things easier

                                        Posted by Oooo yeah on 7/10/2021, 10:01:44, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                        The tide won't turn though. Boris is here to stay. DEAL WITH IT.

                                          Re: To make things easier

                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 10:20:28, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "


                                          Why are you so easily conned?

                                          In his speech yesterday, he claimed the credit for seeing off the European Super League.
                                          And I bet you believed him.

                              Re: To make things easier

                              Posted by Boris on 7/10/2021, 8:28:55, in reply to "To make things easier "

                              Trust in me

                                Re: To make things easier

                                Posted by Bravo Boris on 7/10/2021, 10:15:32, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                I've no problem with the current situation. Yesterday I banked a cheque for £40,000. Carry on Boris.

                                  Re: To make things easier

                                  Posted by Ches Fordroad on 7/10/2021, 10:23:00, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                  A cheque???

                                  Oooooh yeah indeed

                                    Re: To make things easier

                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/10/2021, 10:22:46, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                    Was it a payment for having your head up his backside?
                                    It may be printed on rubber.

                                      Re: To make things easier

                                      Posted by Bravo Boris on 7/10/2021, 10:49:37, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                      No NaG, it wasn't and it wasn't written on rubber, just the normally accepted paper, sent to me from Harpenden.

                                        Re: To make things easier

                                        Posted by Noddy on 7/10/2021, 11:59:06, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                        Lucky you. If true.

                                          Re: To make things easier

                                          Posted by Bravo Boris on 7/10/2021, 12:46:32, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                          It's true, paid into my Nationwide flex account yesterday, soon to be transferred elsewhere where it will actually accrue a little interest, hopefully in the not too distant future when at long last interest rates go up.

                                            Re: To make things easier

                                            Posted by Noddy on 7/10/2021, 15:38:56, in reply to "Re: To make things easier "

                                            I smell something. and it isnt chocolate

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