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    Rashford

    Posted by MetalHatter on 6/6/2021, 19:17:01

    One of the worst and most ineffective England players I've seen to consistently get game time. Bizarre.

      Re: Rashford

      Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 6/6/2021, 20:09:37, in reply to "Rashford"

      Got free meals sorted tho

        Its not the states job to feed school kids

        Posted by Langford Hat on 6/6/2021, 20:17:58, in reply to "Re: Rashford"

        Why shoukd my tax money be used to feed other peoples kids .

        The state never paid to feed my children.

        If you can't afford kids dont have em

          Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

          Posted by Vladimir Luton on 7/6/2021, 10:13:15, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

          What if you have kids then a few years down the line you lose your job because of, say, a recession?
          The safety net is important and the fact it doesn't affect you personally is not the point.

            Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

            Posted by Bab on 7/6/2021, 8:45:40, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

            But those without kids have to pay for schools.
            It’s about being a society, you know, a coherent cooperative that works for the common good, that allows everyone a chance to achieve.
            👍

              Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

              Posted by Godders on 6/6/2021, 23:24:26, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

              If you can't afford kids dont have em

              how much does it cost to have kids then?

                Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                Posted by loopy loo on 6/6/2021, 23:27:32, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                Ask the mother goat. As for children, over the period of their lives until they become self sufficient, a small fortune.

                  Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                  Posted by Godders on 7/6/2021, 10:35:24, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                  Exactly!

                  The point being is that it's a ludicrous suggestion to say if you can't afford kids dont have em.

                Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                Posted by loony tune on 6/6/2021, 23:07:04, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                And while we are at it stop others health care, disability needs, pension, money for road building Everyone for themselves and #### the rest. I'm all right Jack

                  Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                  Posted by LuskHatter on 6/6/2021, 23:05:03, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                  I've just remembered, its time for my close season break from the board, because when there no Luton football all the wankers start posting shit!!!!!

                  Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                  Posted by Holy Bob on 6/6/2021, 22:25:17, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                  They sponsored your holibobs at one of Her Majesty’s guest houses though didn’t they Matt

                    Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                    Posted by Teacher on 6/6/2021, 20:40:49, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                    The same way that your money is used to save other people's kids lives. The same way your money pays for other kid's education.

                      Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                      Posted by Luton manc on 6/6/2021, 20:36:09, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                      K.

                        Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                        Posted by Watcher on 6/6/2021, 20:21:46, in reply to "Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                        You havent got kids.

                          Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                          Posted by Langford Hat on 6/6/2021, 22:11:07, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                          I have 3 sons 29 , 27 and 19, they all wirk , I also have 2 grand children whos parents feed them.not the state

                            Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                            Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/6/2021, 11:34:21, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                            Did the state educate them, provide them medicine and treatment when they got sick, enforce the laws in your area to help keep them safe and so on?

                            Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                            Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 6/6/2021, 20:35:31, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                            I have..no one gave free meals to mine..or food bank vouchers or extra 30 a week inthe dole money...or free laptop..nanny state do less get given more

                              Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                              Posted by J in c on 6/6/2021, 20:54:17, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                              Some people are not so lucky,

                                Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 6/6/2021, 20:59:45, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                Some people scrounge..some people play the system...so stop the system.

                                  Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                  Posted by Question on 6/6/2021, 21:08:09, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                  Do you seriously mean that? Because a few people misuse the system, #### the needy, poor, old and infirm? Bollocks to that, you might be happy in that world but thank #### decent people aren't.

                                  Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                  Posted by J in C on 6/6/2021, 21:06:02, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                  Let kids starve eh , bravo you.

                                    Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                    Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 6/6/2021, 21:24:24, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                    Why they going to starve..were they starving before rashford campaign..I never heard of any..dole money..no rent no TV licence no council tax..should be no need for additional freebies..such as food bank or lunches...

                                      Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                      Posted by Maccacracker on 6/6/2021, 22:07:23, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                      Ridiculous statement ‘let kids starve hey’ poverty does not exist in this country the way it did years ago. The same kids who probably have an Xbox and parents can still afford their smart phones etc.

                                        Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 6/6/2021, 22:09:54, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                        Please try and read what I posted below. Sadly you are utterly wrong.

                                          Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                          Posted by jimmyp on 7/6/2021, 9:25:26, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                          In all fairness, he'd struggle to read "what I posted below" let alone what you actually posted below.

                                          Cheers, Jim

                                        Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 6/6/2021, 21:36:43, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "


                                        Just because you choose not to hear about it doesn't mean it isn't happening mate!


                                        Dramatic rise in child poverty in the last five years – new report 19 May 2021
                                        Even before the pandemic, 4.3 million children were living in poverty, up 200,000 from the previous year – and up 500,000 over the past five years.
                                        North East England shows the greatest growth in child poverty over the past five years and has risen by more than a third, taking it from below the UK average to the second-highest of any region
                                        Highest rates of child poverty continue to be in major cities – particularly London and Birmingham
                                        Three quarters (75%) of children living in poverty in 2019/20 were in households with at least one working adult; up from two thirds (67%) in 2014/15
                                        New figures released today reveal that even before the pandemic, in some parts of the UK, the majority of children are growing up in poverty once housing costs are taken into account.

                                        The research carried out by Loughborough University for the End Child Poverty Coalition shows that the North East of England has seen the most dramatic rise in child poverty in the past five years, fuelled by stagnating family incomes.

                                        In London, high housing costs are pushing many families to the brink.

                                        Overall, in the North East, the child poverty rate has risen by over a third - from 26% to 37% - over five years, moving from just below the UK average to the second-highest of any region, after London. A third of the overall increase happened in the latest year (2019/20) with many low-paid workers pushed below the poverty line by the freeze in their in-work benefits.

                                        Over the years, the proportion of children living in poverty who are in a household with at least one working adult has also increased sharply across the UK, up from two thirds (67%) five years ago to three quarters (75%).

                                        Vikki Waterman is a single mum of two from Durham who works full-time. She says poverty in the north-east cripples hard-up families and it beggars belief that the UK Government doesn’t understand the struggles facing working parents, even more so following the financial impact of COVID-19.

                                        “Too many of us in the north-east work twice as hard for half as much. We’re not living, we're just about surviving.

                                        “Working families, particularly single parent families, already live day to day with the constant fear of having no flexibility or financial safety net, often forcing them to turn to high-interest loans in times of desperate need. The government must not allow those of us barely managing to keep our heads above water from going under.”

                                        The new data also confirms London and Birmingham, two of the UK’s largest cities, as having the greatest concentrations of child poverty with a dozen constituencies showing the majority of children living below the poverty line, even before large numbers of people started losing their jobs as a result of the pandemic.

                                        Of the UK nations, Wales has the highest percentage of children living in poverty nationwide (31%), followed by England (30%) then Scotland and Northern Ireland (24% each).

                                        Loughborough’s Dr Juliet Stone, who produced the report, said: “These latest statistics show that tackling child poverty remains a major challenge. The proportion of children living in a household with income below the poverty line after housing costs has not only risen overall in the UK, but has shown an especially stark increase in certain regions.

                                        “The trend in the North East is particularly bleak. The region has experienced a steep rise in child poverty since 2014/15, and rates are now almost on a par with London, where child poverty is generally most prevalent after housing costs are taken into account. It is unusual to see such a clear trend over a relatively short period of time, and this highlights the need to address growing inequalities between regions of the UK.

                                        “These statistics predate the outbreak of COVID 19, showing that the child poverty rates were worrying high even before the pandemic. This is likely to have worsened even further over the past year. It is therefore imperative that we continue to monitor child poverty in the UK and at a local level, identifying the areas that are in greatest need.”

                                        The coalition is calling on the UK Government to recognise the scale of the problem and its impact on children’s lives and to create a credible plan to end child poverty which must include a commitment to increase child benefits.

                                        Given the extent to which families are already struggling, the planned £20 p/w cut to Universal Credit in October should be revoked.

                                        The support should also be extended to those still receiving financial assistance from the old benefits system, referred to as ‘legacy benefits’, before they are switched to Universal Credit.

                                        Anna Feuchtwang, Chair of the End Child Poverty Coalition said: “The figures speak for themselves – the situation for children couldn’t be starker. We all want to live in a society where children are supported to be the best they can be, but the reality is very different for too many.

                                        “The UK Government can be in no doubt about the challenge it faces if it is serious about ‘levelling up’ parts of the country hardest hit by poverty. After the year we’ve all had, they owe it to our children to come up with a plan to tackle child poverty that includes a boost to children’s benefits. And they need to scrap plans to cut Universal Credit given parents and children are having a tough enough time as it is.


                                        The research was carried out by Dr Juliet Stone and Professor Donald Hirsch at the Centre for Research in Social Policy, at Loughborough University based on the latest Before Housing Cost child poverty data from DWP published in March 2021.

                                          Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                          Posted by The Questioner on 6/6/2021, 22:39:53, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                          Just to be clear I am on your side in this debate . No child should go hungry .A few bad apples make headlines who try to cheat the benefit systems and a few greedy bastards try to avoid tax who can easily afford it .
                                          However poverty today isn’t what it was 100 years ago , which is obviously a good thing . As we become a richer nation the mean moves up and more people move into the poverty bracket although they are better off than they would have been 25 years ago . See below :
                                          This survey sets the poverty line in the UK at 60 per cent of the median UK household income. In other words, if a household's income is less than 60 per cent of this average, HBAI considers them to be living in poverty. ... 30 per cent of children live in households below the poverty line (after housing costs).

                                            Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                            Posted by crumpsall on 6/6/2021, 23:12:49, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                            I agree basically: however, the alarming thing is that we are slipping backwards now, increasingly rapidly. I find it astonishing that some people have no concept of this, given the high level stories. Others don't want to see, of course, and some simply don't care - but I think the likes of you and I who do care are still in the majority.

                                            I should have linked the whole article, but let's say some people (not you) seem to struggle with anything more than a sound bite!

                                            https://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/news/2021/may/dramatic-rise-in-child-poverty/#:~:text=News-,Dramatic%20rise%20in%20child%20poverty%20in%20the%20last%20five%20years,over%20the%20past%20five%20years.

                                              Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                              Posted by The Questioner on 7/6/2021, 8:41:35, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                              Firstly no one who has a least one parent in work should be in poverty and the increases in minimum wages should have helped that . However that does also increase the mean .
                                              Bottom line is that those of us who are more fortunate should be pleased to be able to help those less well off .

                                                Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                                Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/6/2021, 9:05:47, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                                Given the disparity in wages do you know what that average works out at? I wonder if wage inequality makes it worse than it sounds?

                                                I think we should qualify your statement on "in work", that should be full-time work rather than part-time and most definitely not a zero hours contract!

                                                  Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                                  Posted by The Outsider on 7/6/2021, 9:38:18, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                                  This survey sets the poverty line in the UK at 60 per cent of the median UK household income. In other words, if a household's income is less than 60 per cent of this average, HBAI considers them to be living in poverty. ... 30 per cent of children live in households below the poverty line (after housing costs).

                                                  I think that it is important to distinguish between median and average/mean. The wording implies that they are interchangeable. I am not sure whether the bit from "In other words..." onwards is part of the original definition or a comment by The Questioner.

                                                  If you take three households with incomes of £10000, £40000 and £1 million, the median is £40000 but the mean is £350000.

                                          Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                          Posted by clarky on 6/6/2021, 21:54:35, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                          you do get narky,anyway job done on you,didnt take much,bye

                                          Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                          Posted by clarky on 6/6/2021, 21:48:08, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                          strange why these kids mums come on telly moanin they aint got enough to feed their kids and they look about 20 stone

                                            Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids

                                            Posted by crumpsall on 6/6/2021, 21:50:38, in reply to "Re: Its not the states job to feed school kids "

                                            Oh do piss off you tedious twat.

                                            You're probably fat and out of shape yourself.

                                            Try reading what I posted, that should keep you busy for a month or two.

                          Re: Rashford

                          Posted by Town n out on 6/6/2021, 19:46:36, in reply to "Rashford"

                          Got all the talent and physical attributes but lacks a footballing brain and calmness in front of goal I'm afraid.

                            Re: Rashford

                            Posted by Ebeneezer Goode on 6/6/2021, 19:58:39, in reply to "Re: Rashford"

                            Lacks a footballing brain?

                            What does that even mean ffs?!

                              Re: Rashford

                              Posted by Maccacracker on 6/6/2021, 20:36:59, in reply to "Re: Rashford"

                              Over rated! His decision making leaves a lot to be desired and not exactly prolific in front of goal. Good athlete, potential.....but needs a lot of work.

                            Re: Rashford

                            Posted by thomas cook on 6/6/2021, 19:24:40, in reply to "Rashford"

                            gets a good press though but not necessarily on the right pages

                              Re: Rashford

                              Posted by Man on 6/6/2021, 19:33:49, in reply to "Re: Rashford"

                              Dont rate him, does the occasional good thing

                                Re: Rashford

                                Posted by Anon on 6/6/2021, 19:45:59, in reply to "Re: Rashford"

                                He won’t start - good option to bring off bench

                                  Re: Rashford

                                  Posted by Guildford Street cafe on 6/6/2021, 22:38:55, in reply to "Re: Rashford"

                                  Based entirely on tonight's game two who must play next Saturday are Grealish and Sam Johnstone.

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