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    Next season

    Posted by Ramridge Raider on 4/5/2021, 14:38:17

    I'm not really sure why anyone is worried about Derby or Sheff Wed staying up.

    I dont think we will be anywhere close to a relegation battle next year. With the foundations the club has built I can see us solidifying in mid table, alongside the likes of QPR, Millwall etc.

    If we could unearth a few hidden gems or up and coming loanees, then a play off place is not out of the question.

    Personally, I am not over impressed with the quality of the Championship with the exception of Norwich.

      Re: Next season

      Posted by Mahatma Gander on 4/5/2021, 15:38:54, in reply to "Next season"

      I want them both to go down because they bloody well deserve it, just a shame Birmingham scraped together a few results or it could have been a hat trick.

        Re: Next season

        Posted by Look down Luke on 4/5/2021, 15:26:23, in reply to "Next season"

        Yeah but the £5M signing from Millwall!

          Re: Next season

          Posted by Sandgrounder on 4/5/2021, 14:59:43, in reply to "Next season"

          Iíd agree with you if we kept the same squad but I donít think there is any guarantee we will have a stronger (or even equivalent) squad next year than this. What has changed though is the mindset at the club, which will help us compete whoever is in the squad.

            Re: Next season

            Posted by Frog Hatter on 4/5/2021, 14:57:20, in reply to "Next season"

            There are a few unknowns....
            - how much will the squad change
            - a good start to this season was key so can we do that again
            - will fans be let in which will help our home form but maybe make it more difficult away

              Re: Next season

              Posted by bbb on 4/5/2021, 14:53:49, in reply to "Next season"

              How we do next season is pretty much all on Jones. Given the amount of players out of contract, I imagine there will be alot of new faces next season in the squad. Probably the biggest test for Jones since he came to us.

                Re: Next season

                Posted by Rob on 4/5/2021, 15:11:23, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                I agree it is a challenge, but not sure he'll face a bigger one than digging us out of the mire last season.

                  Re: Next season

                  Posted by bbb on 4/5/2021, 15:16:19, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                  He couldn't lose last year. Relegated and it would have been Mr.Personalitys fault. Stay up and the window lickers all fall in love with him again.

                    Re: Next season

                    Posted by Rob on 4/5/2021, 15:31:11, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                    Ha ha, well I suppose so. We were in pretty dire straits.

                    However, he did do it.

                    Truth is, where we were in the league did have an awful lot to do with GJ. I've never been so angered by a Luton manager as when he hung the players out to dry at Brentford last season.

                      Re: Next season

                      Posted by bbb on 4/5/2021, 15:35:37, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                      I lost faith in him when he gave up before a ball was kicked in the cup game at home to Leicester.

                        Re: Next season

                        Posted by Rob on 4/5/2021, 15:56:35, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                        Yep, I think that the concise way to put it was that he was 'shite'.

                          Re: Next season

                          Posted by bbb on 4/5/2021, 16:04:33, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                Re: Next season

                Posted by Stimm on 4/5/2021, 14:48:50, in reply to "Next season"

                Not meaning to be too pessimistic how secure are the foundations being here in August.
                Very big IF finding gems etc as other clubs are also looking.
                Hoping for 60 point midtable next season, building up to promotion when the ground gets finished.

                  Re: Next season

                  Posted by Ramridge Raider on 4/5/2021, 14:57:34, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                  I think that we have a manager that gets 100% out of his players and a style of play that is extremely effective (although not that pretty on the eye).

                  Even if we were to lose a few players in August, I think we will still be relatively comfortable.

                  I also think some of our scouting is first class, the likes of KDH, Adebajo and Naismith have proven to be excellent acquisitions. Hopefully we can repeat those type of signings next season.

                    Re: Next season

                    Posted by Another Suffolk Hatter on 4/5/2021, 16:47:50, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                    I think we were rather duped at the start of last season into believing the Championship was rather better than it really is.

                    It turns out the Championship contains a large number of over-paid, under-achieving players with clubs who believe they should be in the premier league.

                    The fact that we've been able to recruit players like Clark, Lockyer and Naismith this season on frees, and Adebayo for a small(?) fee suggests that our recruitment is excellent and you don't need to pay crazy money to compete - at least in mid table.

                    Of course there are players like Pukki and Buendia who are quality, but they are a small minority.

                      Re: Next season

                      Posted by Hatter Mad on 4/5/2021, 17:26:22, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                      The squad is at the end of its road (3-5 year roadmap) and will require a big improvement to not to be in a relegation battle next season including significant financial investment just to remain a championship club.

                      Deluded fans that are indifferent to keep players like Collins, Pearson and Bradley is sad to see as the difference in quality over a season will become obvious.

                      To be duped by the championship quality is naive - it was literally a year ago when we conceded 82 goals in the championship which is 13 more than any team this season. If anything this can be considered a weak championship and will be harder next season.

                      KDH was an exceptional loan and without him we need to do what every club tried to do last year and couldn't which is identify someone like him. Baring in mind this will just keep the status quo of the team people should really realize how much of a challenge next season will be as we need to find an arguably top 20 championship midfield player just to stay the same in terms of quality.

                      Adebayo again was an exception to the rule to find someone with premier league youth club pedigree, above average altheticsm scoring regularly available for a couple of hundred grand will not be repeated for many years by any club let alone Luton.

                      There was a massive reluctance on here regarding signing Adebayo with people even claiming the £250k fee was too much.....

                      If NJ gets it wrong this year it will have a knock-on effect for the next 5 years of the club.

                      Half the squad may leave or be replaced this summer, 25% will leave in the next year or two and we have about 25% for the next 3 years +.





                        Re: Next season

                        Posted by Man on 4/5/2021, 18:15:07, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                        Get a strong spine to the team, then build round that

                          Re: Next season

                          Posted by Music Critic on 4/5/2021, 17:51:50, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                          3-5 year roadmap?



                          You said we'd struggle this season yet here we are

                          Another Suffolk Hatter is correct. The quality in this division really isn't scary at all

                          The other stuff is just the usual pessimistic gibberish cloaked in management speak that you usually come up with

                          Great routine

                            Re: Next season

                            Posted by Hatter Mad on 4/5/2021, 17:59:15, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                            Its pragmatic truth rather than deluded views by people who do not understand business or football.

                            I said we should have signed Johnson Clarke Harris for £1million last summer as it was obvious we needed a striker - instead we signed Danny Hylton for an extra year.....

                            I said we should sign Adebayo for £250k and everyone on here was basically saying it was too much even though we spent more as a league two club on James Collins....

                            Without financial investment Luton will be relegation candidates next year with or without KDH.

                              Re: Next season

                              Posted by Music Critic on 4/5/2021, 19:03:28, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                              People who don't understand business or football? Well thanks for gracing us with your presence and knowledge. We're honoured. Contact 2020 - I'm sure they would like your help since you come across as a fukking know-it-all. I mean with 3 promotions and year-on-year improvement plus 2 planning permissions they're doing shit ain't they?

                              I don't even remember anyone saying "don't sign Adebayo".

                              Clarke-Harris for a million? What's that got to do with anything? While we're playing random name-generator in order to make a tenuous point, how about that donkey who plays at the back for B City - he cost £8 million. So, unless you're Man City, spending has no guarantees at all. Which if you understood as much about football as you claim, you'd know of course

                              If we had been in decline for 3 years I might give your nonsense a bit more thought. But we've improved every year for 5 years.

                              I'll repeat - you keep on about relegation. You have been banging on about it all season and yet here we are. A point away from a top half finish

                              You know fukk all about football and business because your football-management-video-game approach to football would have us bankrupt in 3 years. It's as though 2008 never happened

                                Re: Next season

                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/5/2021, 20:18:18, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                Harsh.
                                But fair

                                  Re: Next season

                                  Posted by Frank on 5/5/2021, 13:23:28, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                  +1

                                  Re: Next season

                                  Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/5/2021, 19:30:09, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                  "I don't even remember anyone saying "don't sign Adebayo".

                                  I think a few of us were initially doubtful about whether we would be able to sign him. There was at least one other club (I can't remember who) after him which had pushed the asking price up, and they would probably have offered higher wages than us, too. But once they dropped their interest for whatever reason, the asking price dropped to an affordable level and we weren't having to compete with anyone else's wage structures, so we made our move. Good business, basically.

                              Re: Next season

                              Posted by RGDave on 4/5/2021, 17:32:54, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                              Blimey, you're a cheerful soul. NJ and his staff have had a bloody excellent season and let's hope he keeps us up next year. It's always going to be very competitive, we just have to keep backing our Manager and squad. We haven't got any money to waste so we'll stick to what we know.

                                Re: Next season

                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/5/2021, 17:38:48, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                Isn't that the poster who keeps saying we need to spend £5 million on a striker?

                                  Re: Next season

                                  Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/5/2021, 18:02:19, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                  £3m on Jephcott and £5m on a midfielder, I think it was. Deluded, but seems to like the fact that everyone disagrees with them as it presumably allows them to feel superior as they are they only one who can see what they see...

                                    Re: Next season

                                    Posted by Hatter Mad on 4/5/2021, 18:07:49, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                    £3million on Jephcott and you dont need to buy a striker for 3-5 years.....

                                    £4-5 million on a center midfielder to replace KDH for the long term.....

                                    All paid for by the transfer fees received and completely affordable.

                                    This belief Luton will pick up players on a free who will make Luton championship play off contenders is deluded and dangerous....


                                      Re: Next season

                                      Posted by RGDave on 4/5/2021, 19:22:30, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                      If you're a young lad, then fair play, you'll learn about the realities of supporting our club in time. The whole point is we have to fight for everything we've achieved. If you're over 35, fella, have a bit of a think about things. Look at the state of Derby and half of the Championship teams who have wasted millions over the years.

                                        Re: Next season

                                        Posted by Mad hatter on 4/5/2021, 19:34:59, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                        Everythingís I have said is perfectly sustainable.

                                        Similar to a majority of the board saying the 250k for adebayo was too much in January.....complete fantasists

                                        To not think we donít need a striker when nombe and Hylton are 3rd and 4th choice would be pure ignorance.

                                        KDH needs to be replaced and why not replace him permanently as it will have to happen sooner or later and we have just received £10 million transfer fee income and expect another £3-4 million this summer from max Aaronís.

                                        How can spending less than your income be leading the club to bankruptcy? Unless posters are just making up nonsense because they donít have anything worthwhile to say and canít form their own opinions.

                                        Itís a football board for football opinions but making up nonsense replies is pitiful....no wonder someone set up a new board

                                          Re: Next season

                                          Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/5/2021, 19:50:52, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                          Feel free to take your opinions over there and see whether they like them any better.

                                            Re: Next season

                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/5/2021, 22:09:58, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                            + 1

                                          Re: Next season

                                          Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/5/2021, 19:31:26, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                          I'm under 35 and I resent that

                                          I think you need to reduce that age level down to somewhere around 12.

                                          Re: Next season

                                          Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/5/2021, 18:29:47, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                          "All paid for by the transfer fees received and completely affordable"

                                          How many times do you need to be told that this money is not just sitting in the bank waiting to be spent? We have spent some on transfer fees, some on signing on fees, some on agent fees... Then there was the impact of the pandemic and the delays to NP/PC which will have also affected our finances. If you think that money hasn't been spent or allocated for something (hopefully some of it for transfer fees, but nothing like as much as you think) then you are seriously deluded. Give the routine a rest, please.

                                          Re: Next season

                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/5/2021, 18:06:15, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                          Very reminiscent of some other posters on other subjects.......

                                          Re: Next season

                                          Posted by mmmm on 4/5/2021, 18:00:49, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                          No Luton fan could think that is even a remote possibility ! I have every confidence that next season will see another step forwards . As long as Nathan Jones and Mick Harford are pulling the strings we have no reason to worry.

                                            Re: Next season

                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/5/2021, 18:05:08, in reply to "Re: Next season"

                                            Spot on.

                                Re: Next season

                                Posted by Hotshot on 4/5/2021, 14:45:45, in reply to "Next season"

                                KDH.......

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