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    Lewis is spot on

    Posted by Bury Hatter on 20/2/2021, 20:10:05

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      Re: Lewis is spot on

      Posted by Maccacracker on 20/2/2021, 21:01:46, in reply to "Lewis is spot on"

      Love his predictions and analysis. He was absolutely spot on again.

        Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

        Posted by But of reality required on 20/2/2021, 20:31:55, in reply to "Lewis is spot on"

        Stopped listening after about 45 seconds. It was the same tactics used today that have been employed all season, those that took us to mid table. We know we have to be on our game 100% to get a result at this level, today most were below par. It doesnt matter who you pick or what formation you play, everybody has to be at their best to get a result. We cant perform to that level every week but hopefully we can perform enough times to achieve safety. This is a tough division and if you attempt to outplay/outfootball teams you will get beat by better players.

          Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

          Posted by not again on 20/2/2021, 20:37:51, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

          I read that on here each time we lose, that it's just a bad day at the office. Well we're having bad days at the office to regularly. Maybe time to get rid of the office staff and replace them with some from the factory floor.

            Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

            Posted by Bit of reality required on 20/2/2021, 20:43:26, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

            What was your expectation, surely you didnt think we would winning most weeks. Our league position is right for over the season. League tables dont lie. 5th or 6th from bottom would be a successful season.

              Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

              Posted by Music Critic on 20/2/2021, 21:04:20, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

              My expectation was 14th-16th. An improvement on last season and steady progress. I still think we'll finish thereabouts and I'm not too concerned yet but we have a very important week coming up that will determine whether we are headed for a comfy end of the season or not

              You're right, of course, that today's tactics have got us to mid-table but other managers/players have now worked us out and we don't seem to have or know a Plan B - illustrated perfectly by the fact that we have won one point this season after conceding the first goal.

              Yes the players had a bad day today and Jones can't legislate for some of the nonsense that went on but they do seem to throw in those sort of performances every 6 or 7 games or so. I think those poor showings are becoming more frequent. QPR at home was poor, so was Huddersfield second half, Tuesday wasn't the best and now today. I do hope, that with the shackles off once in a while, they might respond positively to that.

              We need another string to the bow and I hope we go for Millwall's throat on Tuesday as they will not be expecting that. Are we capable of playing like that? I hope so. I'd like to think we can. But some of the football we're playing at the moment is not enjoyable. It's grinding and mechanical at times and we only seem to know that way of playing. However, a lot of teams are playing similarly. It's not just us. There's nothing that is scaring me in this division this season. Playing the percentages might be enough to keep us safe from harm this season and that is all-important especially with COVID and the finances in the game but, like I said, I'm worried that we've been worked out and we now need a surprise or two up our sleeve from now on to make sure we get the 14 or 15 points we need

                Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                Posted by Mad dog on 21/2/2021, 18:30:34, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                Not good Jones out and he take his back room staff with him also Paul hart itís not fair that Luton fans have to endure this.

                  Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                  Posted by Bit of reality required on 20/2/2021, 21:27:42, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                  I think we will lose to Millwall and we will be in a relegation battle within the next 3 weeks, but I think we will win that battle. We are punching above our weight and that's why we have these poor performances so often.
                  The injuries to Lockyear and Pearson will play their part, both old fashioned defenders who enjoy stopping the opposition playing.
                  Can we get something out of Ince as he potentially has more to offer than Cornick.
                  I wouldn't be against starting Adebayo for an hour on Tuesday with hopefully a bit more mobility up front.
                  As I say who ever plays has to be at the top of their game.

                    Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                    Posted by Music Critic on 20/2/2021, 21:42:38, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                    Agree with a lot of that

                    If we do lose Tuesday, you know what, if we've had a go at them and played with more attacking intent, a higher tempo, fire and blood and thunder (whatever that means!!)* I think most would say 'fair enough'. You'll still get dickhead trolls on here of course but the majority would prefer to lose like that than playing ultra safe and restrained... and losing anyway. Do we die wondering sometimes?

                    Would defo give Adebayo a start on Tuesday

                    In terms of money, I s'pose we are punching at the moment but this is where a good old fashioned siege mentality comes in. We're Luton Town. This, for me, is our natural level (with the new ground we'll be capable of going even higher) and, as I say, there is nothing that frightening quality-wise in this league. "Get into them, to fukk them up..." as the old chant went



                    *even if that means going a bit more direct and chipping a few long balls into their full back positions to try and generate mistakes and a chance to win second balls deep in their half. And turn the opposition a bit more. Just feel we play too much in front of the opposition at times and don't get opposition defenders facing their own goal often enough. That tactic ain't fashionable these days but they wouldn't be expecting it

                      Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                      Posted by m on 20/2/2021, 22:00:41, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                      Good post. However. Not sure about Adebayo, when he came in the other night he looked like he,d never seen a football before. I don't want to put pressure on him. But if I remember right Milwall have 2 big ugly centre halves who will deal with him all night long.
                      the one thing that really troubles me. It seems like a different team each week. But the same end result. Ie barely an effort on goal. I agree with you. I would rather lose 3-0 having a bit of a go than by barely laying a glove

                        Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                        Posted by Music Critic on 20/2/2021, 22:11:14, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                        the one thing that really troubles me. It seems like a different team each week. But the same end result. Ie barely an effort on goal.

                        That's because it doesn't matter what the personnel is, we are asked to play the same way all the time (the structure that Jones likes to talk about, which has a lot of merits but could, from time to time, be dispensed with for something a bit different). Let the shackles off. Even just a bit, especially at home

                        As for Adebayo, well sometimes it's sink or swim. But we ain't scoring so, in that sense, he shouldn't feel an awful lot of pressure. And he's a pretty big chap himself so tell him to be a (fair but) 'orrible kunt and get in the faces of those centre halves of Millwall. Helped by a more in-the-face approach by the team in general. We're too nice. Mick Harford will know a lot of the dark arts. I wish the team would adopt them more often

                        Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                        Posted by Wighthatter on 20/2/2021, 21:58:08, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                        +1

                      Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                      Posted by Godders on 20/2/2021, 21:09:05, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                      Jones has often used a plan b with earlier or half time substitutions.

                        Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                        Posted by Music Critic on 20/2/2021, 21:13:41, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                        The substitutes are also asked to play the same style and method

                        I think Jones's use of subs as actually been a bit odd at times this season. Don't remember too many early substitutions unless enforced by injuries

                          Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                          Posted by Godders on 20/2/2021, 22:16:54, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                          Not always at all. Most recent example i can think of was Chelsea when an early change after about 20 minutes, with a formation change, had a really decisive impact on the game.

                            Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                            Posted by Music Critic on 20/2/2021, 22:25:09, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                            An early change which made us more solid defensively after setting us up wrongly in the first place. But it didn't change our overall conservative approach to the game

                            We still played at a pretty slow tempo, overplaying in our own half, being too nice and creating next to nothing* (besides that golden Cornick chance that should have made it 2-2)



                            *yes it was Chelsea so it's not to be expected but it isn't impossible either

                              Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                              Posted by Godders on 20/2/2021, 22:31:08, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                              Fair points.

                              But I'm sure we played with a higher tempo, pressing, attacking mindset earlier the season? It's why people bang on about the work rate of Collins, Cornick etc.

                                Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                                Posted by Music Critic on 20/2/2021, 22:36:00, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                                But I'm sure we played with a higher tempo, pressing, attacking mindset earlier the season? It's why people bang on about the work rate of Collins, Cornick etc.

                                I think that's right. But the trouble is playing that way all the time is mentally and physically exhausting. Let the opposition worry about us for a change

                                I worry that Sandgrounder (above post) is right. That Jones has got himself into a negative spiral that he can't get out of. I'm not saying go gung-ho every game but that, sometimes, it might be the case that attack is the best form of defence. Tuesday and next Saturday might be good examples of that

                                  Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                                  Posted by Godders on 20/2/2021, 22:39:06, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                                  Maybe a few injuries/suspensions etc could force his hand like JJ over Potts and unearth a real gem!

                                    Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                                    Posted by Music Critic on 20/2/2021, 22:57:57, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                                    Yep, let's hope so.

                                    I should qualify my previous post - I'm not sure we've ever been that attacking (rightly so most of the time) but asking Cornick and Collins do the defensive work that they do all the time is knackering and that's one of the reasons we don't create an awful lot. Cos they're generally fukked

                                      Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                                      Posted by Godders on 20/2/2021, 23:04:09, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                                      Which is precisely why we should try something/someone different such as Adebayo/Ince/Moncur etc. We do niw gVe options - he should utilise them.

                    Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                    Posted by jimmyp on 20/2/2021, 20:51:52, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                    You, my friend, are sensible.

                    That other chap is a dickhead. You carry on as you are.

                    Cheers, Jim

                      Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                      Posted by SAHB on 20/2/2021, 21:37:15, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                      I think you have over looked the point that Pearson and Lockyear were missing, the fine balance that we tread in this division went the other way.
                      The reason we have been able to get results better than most thought possible is the solid foundation we start with, " the structure" NJ talks about.
                      Today Bree not being match fit on the right and Lockyear missing alongside Sonny really upset our base.
                      No matter what anyone says we do have limited resources at this level we need to play with that solid platform we all would like to see a more expansive style of play but I think we would be exposed doing so.

                      You accused me of being defeatist the other week because my expectations were less than yours twisting everything I said in the process,
                      Without us playing a very defensive back four with a protective player in front and without us playing a defensive type of attacking play I say our players are exposed as mostly league 1 standard call that defeatist if you like but as I said before most are aware of the level our players are at.
                      Plan B is very difficult.
                      I do think today was a horror show and Tuesday we won't be as bad, but further bad days are ahead .

                        Re: Lewis is NOT spot on

                        Posted by SAHB on 20/2/2021, 21:39:13, in reply to "Re: Lewis is NOT spot on"

                        Sorry this was posted for Music Critic not JP.

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