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    Leicester lockdown

    Posted by Z on 29/6/2020, 11:45:54

    Lots of talk about it, although nothing confirmed yet.

    Would be bad news for those businesses and general public who have been abiding by the rules, however, may be a good thing in the long run as a warning to the fukwits around the country about what could happen if they don't start behaving.

      Re: Leicester lockdown

      Posted by HH on 29/6/2020, 13:44:35, in reply to "Leicester lockdown "

      Isn't the local lockdown just going to be a continuation of the current lockdown, so no pubs etc would open this weekend?

      Seems a bit daft as if there is a huge spike in Leicester surely that means the current lockdown rules aren't sufficient in the city?

        Re: Leicester lockdown

        Posted by RADSB on 29/6/2020, 12:24:53, in reply to "Leicester lockdown "

        Reports at the weekend suggests it's new arrivals bringing it into the country and not adhering to the isolation rules. More testing at airports is needed but there's no teeth to the rules - you can't stop stupid people from being stupid.

          Re: Leicester lockdown

          Posted by The Orange Salopian on 29/6/2020, 14:08:27, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

          So you test everyone arriving, do you think the logistics of that and the time it would take are feasible.

            Re: Leicester lockdown

            Posted by RADSB on 29/6/2020, 14:12:45, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

            I'm not sure there is a 100% answer. China and South Korea have had outbreaks from arrivals and they have more elaborate, and draconian, measures in place. I guess it's all down to individuals and many are making too many bad choices.

              Re: Leicester lockdown

              Posted by qwertyuiop on 29/6/2020, 14:11:14, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

              Doesnít take long to read someoneís temperature to see if they have a fever. There is no evidence that people who are asymptomatic transmit the virus.

                Re: Leicester lockdown

                Posted by The Orange Salopian on 29/6/2020, 14:14:27, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                Temperature checks are virtually pointless, a lot pf people never get a temperature when infected and those that do only have it for a short time.

                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                  Posted by qwertyuiop on 29/6/2020, 14:18:00, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                  I agree in part, but if you donít have a temperature then you are probably asymptomatic (the fever is the first symptom, right?) and the ďexpertsĒ are telling us that you canít transmit until you have symptoms. This obviously falls apart if you get it yesterday, travel, donít show sign of fever at the check then several days later you get symptoms and donít isolate. We are relying on peopleís good will and being sensible when symptoms begin.

            Re: Leicester lockdown

            Posted by Kenny Roader on 29/6/2020, 12:05:27, in reply to "Leicester lockdown "

            Isn't the reason for increased infections because we now have increased screening?

              Re: Leicester lockdown

              Posted by The Outsider on 29/6/2020, 12:08:11, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

              If that were the reason, surely you would expect the increased rates in Leicester to be in line with the rest of the country. The fact that they aren't implies that that is not the reason.

                Re: Leicester lockdown

                Posted by Kenny Roader on 29/6/2020, 12:16:21, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                You are probably right but, perhaps, there was more screening in Leicester than other places but then again you would think somebody would confirm that.

              Re: Leicester lockdown

              Posted by The Outsider on 29/6/2020, 11:59:43, in reply to "Leicester lockdown "

              Wouldn't surprise me if Bedford is next - investigations currently in progress to try to identify why rates are so much higher than anywhere else in the Eastern region.

                Re: Leicester lockdown

                Posted by m on 29/6/2020, 11:50:55, in reply to "Leicester lockdown "

                we all the main reason dont we, but we arent allowed to say

                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                  Posted by Farhat on 29/6/2020, 12:14:17, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                  I'll say it for you: brown skinned people that originated from the Indian sub-continent.

                  Here's one for you: 64000 British citizens have arrived back in the UK from Pakistan since lockdown. Only 30 have subsequently tested positive for Covid 19, and as our airports were letting just about anybody in, no one can be sure whether they caught it in Pakistan or the UK.

                  Of course, Leicester has a significant Sikh population and I assume you're blaming them?

                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                    Posted by Garstang Hatter on 29/6/2020, 11:56:37, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                    There are plenty of reasons - from the lockdown rules being ineffective (e.g. not screening people arriving in the country), individuals seemingly incapable of social distancing when out and about, politicians and their advisors (on both the left and right) and others in the public eye (e.g. footballers) creating an impression of one rule for them and another rule for us, and yes, large scale gatherings of various types (genuine demonstrations, hijacked demonstrations, counter demonstrations, Liverpool fans, all those people on the beaches and in the Lake District). But you want to pick on one in particular, why is that?

                      Re: Leicester lockdown

                      Posted by The Orange Salopian on 29/6/2020, 14:09:55, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                      What type of screening do you think we should have?

                        Re: Leicester lockdown

                        Posted by Garstang Hatter on 29/6/2020, 14:27:00, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                        I don't know whether there is anything that would be practical/realistic, to be honest - just highlighting that it is a weakness of the lockdown approach when people can still come into the country and spark outbreaks by bringing the virus with them. Therefore it is one possible reason for the Leicester situation, along with the others I mentioned and probably more that I forgot to include. But according to the poster I was replying to, apparently "we all the main reason dont we, but we arent allowed to say".

                      Re: Leicester lockdown

                      Posted by Cheated on 29/6/2020, 11:52:23, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                      Ssshhhhhhh

                        Re: Leicester lockdown

                        Posted by The Friar of Dunstable on 29/6/2020, 11:51:59, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                        Do we?

                        Please tell.

                          Re: Leicester lockdown

                          Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 11:51:47, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                          Come on, tell us then.

                            Re: Leicester lockdown

                            Posted by Cheated on 29/6/2020, 11:54:06, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                            leftie alert!!!!! Lol

                            Keep the truth hidden

                              Re: Leicester lockdown

                              Posted by 4-4-2 on 29/6/2020, 12:35:20, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                              That's all a bit coolio. Do you reside in Spain at times by any chance?

                                Re: Leicester lockdown

                                Posted by The Friar of Dunstable on 29/6/2020, 12:33:24, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                Wow!

                                And right wingers never keep the truth hidden do they, such as; the Windrush scandal, chlorinated chicken, the coronavirus report impact on bame groups etc.

                                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                                  Posted by Music Critic on 29/6/2020, 12:38:43, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                  And the report into Russian interference in UK politics has also been suppressed I believe

                                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                                    Posted by The Phantom Dick Chopper on 29/6/2020, 12:53:19, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                    Forgot about that, but yes, stuff slowly oozes out. And these are just from the top of our heads without research.

                                    Not denying the left keep some truth hidden, dont we all! But to suggest by implication that it's exclusively the left that do it is, at best, blinkered and naÔve.

                                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                                  Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 11:56:33, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                  Er, what truth?

                                  Some gutless posting going on here by you and m

                                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                                    Posted by Cheated on 29/6/2020, 12:12:51, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                    Gutless is sweeping everything under the carpet and burying your head in the sand.
                                    Its why grooming girls all over the country went on so long, and still is.
                                    But lets blame white grannies for the covid out break in leicester, that should sort it out

                                      Re: Leicester lockdown

                                      Posted by Mahatma Gander on 29/6/2020, 14:56:20, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                      "Gutless is sweeping everything under the carpet and burying your head in the sand. "

                                      Not a fan of the Tories then?

                                        Re: Leicester lockdown

                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 29/6/2020, 15:16:07, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                        Too far left for him

                                        Re: Leicester lockdown

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 12:17:34, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                        You're off your rocker

                                          Re: Leicester lockdown

                                          Posted by Cheated on 29/6/2020, 12:20:53, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                          Which bit was wrong?

                                            Re: Leicester lockdown

                                            Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 12:23:41, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                            What on earth has the grooming gangs comment got to do with a possible extended lockdown in Leicester?

                                            Seriously, what???

                                            Re: Leicester lockdown

                                            Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 12:20:44, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                            But at least open about your racism.

                                          Re: Leicester lockdown

                                          Posted by m on 29/6/2020, 12:09:43, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                          Because like Bedford, there are lots of areas with tight knit terraced streets mainly occupied by Asian families, who tend to live with parents/grand parents, so have larger population by house so to speak, i dont think thats particularly racist to say that. As lockdown eased people have gone and carried on as normal so id expect more of thsee localised spikes, doesnt mean theres a second wave coming now.

                                          My best friend still lives in Luton and said he drove through Bury Park and saw people queing outside shops, all shaking hands and hugging, and another bloke stood in his front garden cutting peoples hair!

                                            Re: Leicester lockdown

                                            Posted by Thatcham on 29/6/2020, 12:17:19, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                            Which garden mate? Mines a right mess

                                              Re: Leicester lockdown

                                              Posted by The Outsider on 29/6/2020, 12:16:39, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                              My best friend still lives in Luton and said he drove through Bury Park and saw people queing outside shops, all shaking hands and hugging, and another bloke stood in his front garden cutting peoples hair!


                                              Sounds very much like Ampthill Road in Bedford all the way through the lockdown period although I haven't seen the haircut part of it (would have been tempted to stop if I had ).

                                              Jamaican family across the road from us - both parents in their 70s yet their daughter has been visiting all day every Sunday right the way through.

                                                Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 12:28:18, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                English family next to my friend's house had parties every weekend with lots of visitors. As they have done since moving in.

                                                Why restrict comments on stupidity to one group when it is so prevalent across all?

                                                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                  Posted by HemHat on 29/6/2020, 14:11:07, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                  You clearly mean English to = white or at least not Asian by that post.

                                                  Doesn't seem very inclusive of you

                                                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 14:19:46, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                    I did mean English white, correct - you might want to consider the post in the context of the thread rather than trying to make a spurious point.

                                                      Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                      Posted by HemHat on 29/6/2020, 14:28:50, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                      Try and get out of it as much as you like, you meant English white but said English because subconsciously that is how you view English people.

                                                      No shame in it

                                                        Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                        Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 14:35:03, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                        Oh dear, what nonsense - have I upset you?

                                                        Trying to twist things around, maybe? Like all that 'what about white lives mattering too' stuff which attempts to undermine the black lives matter message?

                                                        I could have said English white possible drug dealer right wing aggressive arseholes if I'd wanted to go into detail, but it clearly wasn't needed

                                                          Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                          Posted by HemHat on 29/6/2020, 14:41:51, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                          Not at all.
                                                          Just a bit bored.

                                                          No idea what you're on about with WLM stuff though.

                                                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                    Posted by The Outsider on 29/6/2020, 12:30:45, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                    Just commenting on what I have seen locally. By contrast, my next door neighbour's daughters visit every day but stand outside and talk to their Mum on the phone.

                                                      Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                      Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 12:39:24, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                      Unfortunately, the whole tone of this thread was set by implied racial stereotyping - and that has continued.

                                                      I'd suggest that the ratio of reckless stupidity is pretty much consistent across all groups.

                                                        Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                        Posted by The Outsider on 29/6/2020, 12:50:32, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                        You are probably right. For example, the pictures of the beach in Bournemouth looked like predominantly white people.

                                                        I still wonder how many of the pictures that appeared in the press were deliberately taken from an angle that gave an impression of people being closer to each other than they were although I know that I wouldn't want to risk going somewhere like that until the figures are a lot better than they are at the moment. I have actually reduced the amount of times that I go out since the rules have been relaxed as people seem to have become far too complacent for my liking.

                                                          Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                          Posted by Mahatma Gander on 29/6/2020, 13:40:53, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                          Agree, the pictures are taken at an angle and focal length to emphasise the problem but the sheer figures about illegal parking and aditional waste issues suggest the beaches were far more crowded than usual.

                                                          Complacency levels are simply amazing.

                                                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 12:16:28, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                  Why didn't you say that to start with, instead of..

                                                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                  Posted by m on 29/6/2020, 11:50:55, in reply to "Leicester lockdown "

                                                  we all the main reason dont we, but we arent allowed to say

                                                  Do you think the same applies to Weston Super Mare?

                                                  Read what the PM has said about Leicester:

                                                  Boris Johnson has told Mirror online he is 'concerned' about Leicester's outbreak.

                                                  The Prime Minister said: "We are concerned about Leicester. We're concerned about any local outbreak.

                                                  "And I want to stress to people that we are not out of the woods yet."

                                                  Mr Johnson insisted plans to relax lockdown rules across the country were "cautious" and "calibrated".

                                                  He added: said: "It's very important that we're making these cautious, calibrated steps. We're opening as much of hospitality as we can on July 4, opening as much of the economy as we can - some things, alas, still being closed until they can become Covid-secure."


                                                  "But to make all that possible we have to remain vigilant, we have to continue to do the basics, washing our hands and all that, plus we need to have local lockdowns and local 'whack-a-mole' strategies where necessary."

                                                  He added: "It's worked in places like Weston Super Mare or where we've had outbreaks in GP surgeries in London.

                                                  "And that's the same approach we'll bring to bear in Leicester as well."

                                                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                    Posted by m on 29/6/2020, 12:21:04, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                    be interesting to see if theres a spike in Liverpool in about 2 weeks?

                                                      Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                      Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 12:25:14, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                      Will you blame Asian Liverpool fans if there is?

                                                      Or if there's one in Bournemouth, Asian sunbathers?

                                                      And what about Weston Super Mare?

                                                        Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                        Posted by bloody hell on 29/6/2020, 14:14:57, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                        Give it rest Crumps for God's sake, you're sounding boring. Just because some disagree with your left wing marxist views doesn't automatically make them all racist.

                                                        Talk about being blinkered.

                                                          Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                          Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 14:17:40, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                          I'm not a Marxist Spix, never have been and never will be.

                                                          Unfortunate for you that you are too stupid to understand that.

                                                          Now piss off.

                                                            Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                            Posted by bloody hell on 29/6/2020, 14:39:55, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                            Typical Crumps, par for the course. He gets owned and his only response is personal abuse.

                                                            He's fine when you agree with him, a gentleman in fact. Disagree with him however and he spins on the proverbial sixpence and becomes a sanctimonious git.

                                                            Never were much good at genuine debate, you know, the civil discussing of different views, Crumps!

                                                              Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                              Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 14:46:23, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                              Owned? By you, you silly old fool? That will be the day.

                                                              As for turning nasty and personal abuse, you've done one hell of a lot of that yourself Spix - saying foul and unfair, personal things about any number of Luton fans you perceive as having slighted you. On here you've done it the cowardly way too, hiding behind a range of other names.

                                                              Most people I know who have any acquaintance with you seem to think you are a rather nasty piece of work.

                                                              Personally, I consider you a bit sad - finding pleasure from trolling on message boards (not just Luton ones) and coming out with childish comments about 'chomps' and 'fishing'. Pathetic for a man of your advanced years.

                                                                Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                Posted by bloody hell on 29/6/2020, 15:04:02, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                My point proven. I rest my case, MLord!

                                                                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                  Posted by Mahatma Gander on 29/6/2020, 15:05:36, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                  You do realise you just said far more about yourself there than anyone or anything else?

                                                                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 15:07:07, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                    Don't credit him with sufficient intelligence or self-awareness to understand that MG!

                                                          Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                          Posted by Nearhat on 29/6/2020, 13:05:51, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                          What about Hyde Park or Bristol?

                                                            Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                            Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 13:14:55, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                            What about them? What's your point? Anywhere where people have gathered foolishly....are some going to say it's all down to Asians?

                                                            That is my point to the poster I was responding to.


                                                            There were a lot more on that beach at Bournemouth than any other gathering,if the 500,000 figure for outside visitors to Dorset quoted by the local MP is even vaguely correct

                                                              Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                              Posted by Nearhat on 29/6/2020, 13:36:37, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                              Was just adding to your list as to be fair certain protests broke the social distancing rules well before everybody started to think ďif they can all do it why canít I?Ē

                                                                Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 13:45:37, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                They weren't before the mass ignoring of distancing: that started as soon as the sun came out.

                                                                Might as well falsely blame Cummings and his UK tour.


                                                            Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                            Posted by m on 29/6/2020, 12:51:54, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                            I probably wonít bother posting again to be honest.

                                                              Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                              Posted by Wimborne hatter on 29/6/2020, 13:44:57, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                              Another one bullied off the board by the lefty clique.

                                                                Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 13:51:47, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                Why don't you post under your regular Outlaws name?

                                                                If there's a lefty clique, there's probably a right wing clique too.

                                                                And an in the middly clique.

                                                                And a racist clique.

                                                                And a thicko clique.



                                                                Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 13:06:53, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                Why not?

                                                                Are you one of those people who falsely claim that their voices and views are silenced just because they are challenged?

                                                                Keep posting,there is nothing to fear about expressing an opinion. Better than implying that you're 'not allowed' when you clearly are.

                                                                  Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                  Posted by Cheated on 29/6/2020, 14:19:16, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                  The worst that's can happen is getting a slagging off from crumps from his far left pedestal !!!

                                                                    Re: Leicester lockdown

                                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 29/6/2020, 14:22:29, in reply to "Re: Leicester lockdown "

                                                                    Someone has to balance out your right wing looney rants!

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