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    Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

    Posted by deeuu on 20/5/2020, 16:56:04

    But bring back the death penalty.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52739911

      Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

      Posted by Mark the tiler on 20/5/2020, 17:42:45, in reply to "Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

      I would suspect this women must be mentally ill to commit such a horrendous crime,the question is, was she known to mental health services, if so what assessment had she previously had. Not one to bash the health services but if she was mentally ill this has been a recurring theme over many years.

        Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

        Posted by deeuu on 20/5/2020, 17:45:22, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

        I do believe the delay between the crime and charge was to a discussion on this.

        The fact she has now been charged seem to suggest she is fit for trial.

      Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

      Posted by J Block on 20/5/2020, 16:57:16, in reply to "Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

      agreed

        Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

        Posted by The Twitcher on 20/5/2020, 17:24:25, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

        I bet if we had a referendum on the death penalty, we'd end up with another Brexit. All the lefties would have an eppy.

          Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

          Posted by Farhat on 20/5/2020, 17:49:51, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

          "An eppy"?

          Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

          Posted by Bab on 20/5/2020, 17:43:23, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

          Why do you think there hasnít been one?

            Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

            Posted by Bab on 20/5/2020, 17:41:54, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

            Deeply sickening crime. The poor girl, horrendous for the family.

              Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/5/2020, 17:28:54, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

              Oh yes. The death penalty completely eradicated any type of murder, and there were no miscarriages of justice whatsoever, nor any people wrongly executed.


              Plank.

                Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

                Posted by The Questioner on 20/5/2020, 22:59:48, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

                I agree that it doesnít act as a deterrent and am opposed it.
                However I think in recent years with forensic science becoming what it is you can now be 100% somebody is guilty which should eradicate those miscarriages of justice.

                  Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/5/2020, 23:10:07, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

                  That doesn't address the question of deterrence, though.
                  The US is the only First World country to permit judicial murder; the rate of murders in states with capital punishment is no lower than in those without. (and I believe it's actually higher).
                  Nor whether the state should be authorised to murder in its turn.
                  Nor the effect on the mental health of the executioner.
                  It's just not that simple.

                    Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

                    Posted by The Questioner on 21/5/2020, 17:29:36, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

                    I am agreeing with you , I know that seems strange... .
                    However I was just making the point that
                    forensic science has made it a very different world to the one we had when we we previously had the death penalty in respect of miscarriages of justice.

                  Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

                  Posted by J in C on 20/5/2020, 19:14:11, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

                  Hes best ignored-

                  Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down

                  Posted by Godders on 20/5/2020, 18:53:31, in reply to "Re: Iíve raised this a few times and always get shouted down"

                  +1

                  Deterrents don't work anyway. Either you think you're clever enough not to get caught or you're too thick to think through the consequences.

                  Or you have mental health issues.

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