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    MOTs

    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 24/3/2020, 18:25:06

    Just seen on another board (yes they do exist) that on the BBC Q & A session, a government spokesman said garages will stay open and there is no excuse for missing it.

      Re: MOTs

      Posted by m on 24/3/2020, 19:47:10, in reply to "MOTs"

      Just had my Mum on the phone in a panic, was supposed to have her car serviced and MOT,D tomorrow but the garage has rung to say they are shut, and her Mot runs out on 31st, no grace period as of yet , seems a bit harsh really, and shes knackered without use of a car

        Re: MOTs

        Posted by jimmyp on 24/3/2020, 20:16:03, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

        I don't want to be a dick. Fuck it, yes I do...

        There is a grace period. It starts one month before your MOT expires and you keep the expiration date. They're looking at extending all MOTs by a few months, as they have already done with some HGVs and PSVs (which, BTW, is an absolute fucking nonsense) so I wouldn't worry too much especially as she shouldn't be going anywhere non-essential anyway.

        Just drive it if she has to, ANPR will show it's just expired so if she's only going to the shops she should be able to talk her way out of it. If not, it's only a few points, hardly the end of the world.

        Cheers, Jim

          Re: MOTs

          Posted by Still Here on 24/3/2020, 20:33:34, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

          You don't get points for no MOT.

            Re: MOTs

            Posted by jimmyp on 24/3/2020, 20:44:25, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

            No, of course you don't.

            Cheers, Jim

            Re: MOTs

            Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 20:31:16, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

            Anyone driving without valid MOT risks up to £1k fine plus up to 6pts and another £300 fine for also driving without insurance. Not to mention increase in insurance premiums for next 5yrs plus 3years of hoping to avoid a further 6pts which would then result in a required court appearance to be given a 6 month ban a fine and ordered to pay court costs. Hence just give us a 3 month extension ffs!

              Re: MOTs

              Posted by jimmyp on 24/3/2020, 20:42:03, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

              Some of that is true, some not. In your case, the MOT is the least of your problems and I wouldn't even be riding it to an MOT station.

              Maybe change the chain yourself and get an MOT booked. You're allowed to ride, without an MOT to a pre-booked appointment.

              Again, I have it on my calendar a month in advance. I think the MOT reminder service from the DVLA website even gives you a month's notice as well. Genuinely no excuse people.

              As for blanket extensions, not a good idea by any stretch.

              Cheers, Jim

                Re: MOTs

                Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 20:50:15, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                Hopefully i can book it in to be repaired before 25th Apr, have found a garage so will call them tomorrow. Just hope i haven't caused too much damage to the gear end or the rear wheel bearing.

                  Re: MOTs

                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 24/3/2020, 21:10:57, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                  🤞

                    Re: MOTs

                    Posted by jimmyp on 24/3/2020, 20:58:07, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                    What bike, BTW?

                    Heard a few chaps having a hoon earlier. I suppose it's allowed as everyone's wearing a helmet so low-risk.

                    Cheers, Jim

                      Re: MOTs

                      Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 21:30:06, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                      Suzuki Bandit gsf 650s 2007. Cheap and nutty enough for a first bike.

            Re: MOTs

            Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 18:35:19, in reply to "MOTs"

            Except that my garage was closed today. I have an issue with the chain which means my bike may not pass anyway which complicates things. Was going to get my regular mechanics advice before proceeding with mot on Fri as it doesnt actually expire until 25 Apr. If necessary was going to get new chain and mot it after that was sorted. But might struggle to do that now. Would be a lot easier if govt would just grant a 3 month extension like theg have for HGVs

              Re: MOTs

              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 24/3/2020, 19:17:45, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

              Sorry. Can you get a chain off the internet?

                Re: MOTs

                Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 19:36:13, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                Dunno, if i need to i will see if that's possible. First i need to try and find a garage that is actually open near me. I'd prefer to have the bike limp through the mot now if possible and worry about the chain later. I don't know if the chain is bad enough for it to fail or not. If it is classed dangerous i would also need to leave the bike at the garage whilst it gets repaired, and incurring their storage fees in the meantime. Paun in the arse. But at least this is all i have to worry about, lots of other people with much worse on their plate right now.

                Re: MOTs

                Posted by Desperate Dan on 24/3/2020, 18:54:19, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                Memorial Rd Luton Drive Ryte Marky Boy is a Luton supporter and likes his bikes go and aee him he will sort you out. Tell him I sent you.

                  Re: MOTs

                  Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 19:15:12, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                  Thanks DD but my chain is fukked. I live in London so a 35mile ride to Luton is like to further damage the gear end and/or the rear wheel bearing. I've just emailed my MP asking her to put pressure on government for a blanket 3month extension on all car and bike mot expiry dates. There are other solutions obviously but none that really make any sense considering what's going on at the moment.

                    Re: MOTs

                    Posted by Todd1433 on 24/3/2020, 19:57:59, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                    What sort of play do you have in the chain, and do you get movement if pull on the links at the rear most point of the rear sprocket?

                    Iím assuming youíre on the last bit of adjustment. If youíve got not much more than an inch play at the centre of the chain, but no movement at the rear of the sprocket Iíd say youíll be ok MOT wise...

                      Re: MOTs

                      Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 20:07:53, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                      There are about 6 links that have seized up in different parts around the whole chain. I tried giving it a really thorough clean the other day but no good. As soon as the affected link passes round the gear end small cog they go out of shape. I tried hammering them back flat but as soon as they passed round the little cog it was back to same problem again with the link stuck in an unflat position if you what i mean. Riding the bike you get a horrible rattle from the chain and it just feels stiff to ride. I need advice from a mechanic if this will cause it to fail mot cos if not i'll just get it to limp through and then worry about sorting it out properly at a more sensible time.

                        Re: MOTs

                        Posted by Todd1433 on 24/3/2020, 20:36:39, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                        Ah, I see.

                        If it is presented like that then it would very likely fail, particularly if your bike has a centre stand, allowing the tester to easily pop it on the stand and spin the wheel to check for play/brake bind etc.

                        If you have a split link you could try taking the chain off and soaking it in pretty much any lubricant overnight to try and free it off. I have had some joy doing that. Split links are not often used on larger capacity bikes anymore though, the preferred option being to burr the joining link, so youíd need to find out what youíre currently running. If you have the non-split link type then youíd have to grind it off, which is only much use if you have a spare link to put back on.

                        Have a look along the length of the chain and see if you can see one of the links with a clip on it. If it has, thatís your split link. As you say though, the current chain is causing unnecessary strain on sprockets/bearings, so it wants changing, even with a cheapy to get you out of a spot for now.

                          Re: MOTs

                          Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 20:46:52, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                          No split link unfortunately. There's a guy on YouTube who removes his chain completely when they have this problem then he clamps the affected link in bench vice just enough to flex it slightly and this frees out the grit that is causing thd seizure. I don't have the skills or tools to do the same. I've sourced a garage though so will call them tomorrow and by the sounds of it arrange for them to replace the chain and sprocket and then do it's mot. Cheers for your help, appreciated.




                            Re: MOTs

                            Posted by Todd1433 on 24/3/2020, 21:16:45, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                            No worries.

                            I am in between road bikes at the mo, but I still have my MX bike. Itís a common issue on them, you go to a track, chain gets caked in mud, then you jet wash it at the end. If you forget to liberally coat it in chain wax before you put it away, high chance youíll come back to it a couple of weeks later to find the same problem you have got.

                            If youíre doing a fair bit of winter/poor weather riding, fitting a Scottoiler is an idea. Prolongs the life of the chain by some margin.

                              Re: MOTs

                              Posted by Scathing hatter on 24/3/2020, 21:28:53, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                              I reckon that's what happened to me. Went down to Cornwall then up to North Devon and back along M4 end of Jan over 3 days, about 700miles. Was raining every day then when i got back i jet washed it but didnt lube the chain after that. Then front brake seized up soon after which i had fixed and now the chain. This is my first proper bike so i'm learning the hard way i guess

                                Re: MOTs

                                Posted by jimmyp on 24/3/2020, 21:26:18, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                                Indeed. Give it a liberal soak in your favourite penetrating oil for a day or two then absolutely drench it in chain oil (wax, whatever is the current fashion).

                                Cheers, Jim

                                  Re: MOTs

                                  Posted by Todd1433 on 24/3/2020, 22:33:13, in reply to "Re: MOTs"

                                  I use wax on the MX bikes as it stands a better chance against the harsh environment that winter motocross presents. I switch to something less sticky during the summer as the dust then becomes an issue.

                                  SH, all of these jobs can seem a bit terrifying when youíre relatively new to bikes. Iíve had them for 25yrs now, but at first I literally didnít have a clue when it came to putting a spanner to one. Once I decided to have a go at learning how to do bits and pieces it developed from there, now at the stage where there is very little Iíd have to pay somebody to do. I donít know your circumstances, but if you have the use of a garage or reasonable sized shed, a fairly basic set of decent tools will cover you at first.

                                  I may have inadvertently got my lad involved with the motocross side of things these days, so everything on them is now x 2 in terms of cost. Iíd have to sell body parts if I had to pay workshop labour costs, so itís well worth learning what you can!

                  Re: MOTs

                  Posted by The Outsider on 24/3/2020, 18:33:46, in reply to "MOTs"

                  Had mine done recently but the garage that I use has closed as from tonight as they can no longer obtain parts to do car repairs.

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