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    Credit card gambling ban

    Posted by RADSB on 14/1/2020, 9:09:19

    Is this going to help to burst the finance football bubble?

    Will League, shirt, stadium sponsorship besides ownership like Stoke be affected?

      Re: Credit card gambling ban

      Posted by Flippedifiknow on 14/1/2020, 14:56:52, in reply to "Credit card gambling ban"

      The only way it will affect football is if gambling sites/companies are banned from advertising in football, like F1 did with cigarettes advertising/sponsorship, but that would cripple the ‘ premiership bigwigs’ so that’ll never happen

        Re: Credit card gambling ban

        Posted by Captain Anon on 14/1/2020, 15:35:31, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

        Wasn't F1 going to collapse as well?
        Seems to be doing alright.

          Re: Credit card gambling ban

          Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 15:43:15, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

          Yep, not like there's any shortage of multi-national co's waiting to step in if gambling advertising on shirts is banned.

            Re: Credit card gambling ban

            Posted by Flippedifiknow on 14/1/2020, 16:12:47, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

            Do Red Bull sponsor any football teams ? They seem to involved in tons of other sports

      Re: Credit card gambling ban

      Posted by Dirk on 14/1/2020, 9:36:25, in reply to "Credit card gambling ban"

      I don't see how the ban is going to change much

      Credit card -> Moneybookers -> random betting company.

      Betting companies will have no idea if the money is credit or not.

        Re: Credit card gambling ban

        Posted by HH on 14/1/2020, 10:24:33, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

        Of course it will.

        Card companies can tell what their cards are being used on. It's quite simple to block credit transactions on gambling sites.

          Re: Credit card gambling ban

          Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 10:34:19, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

          Won't happen. Why would PayPal care what people are depositing money for?

          They're not even a UK-based company so the UK govt. can't tell them what to do.

            Re: Credit card gambling ban

            Posted by crumpsall on 14/1/2020, 10:40:09, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

            Actually, PayPal - despite being registered in Luxembourg - ARE regulated by the FSA.

            Though whether the FSA are fit for purpose is another matter altogether.

              Re: Credit card gambling ban

              Posted by Andy Cappucino on 14/1/2020, 12:21:51, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

              Correct on both points!

                Re: Credit card gambling ban

                Posted by crumpsall on 14/1/2020, 12:29:17, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                Mate, the FSA - what toothless tigers!!!

                  Re: Credit card gambling ban

                  Posted by Ches Fordroad on 14/1/2020, 12:40:28, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                  Aren't they something else now - FCA?? - but equally useless

                    Re: Credit card gambling ban

                    Posted by crumpsall on 14/1/2020, 12:49:17, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                    They are and I really should have got that right as I write about them often!

                    Re: Credit card gambling ban

                    Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 12:31:43, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                    Other issue is that if people are desperate to bet and can't on their credit card, there will end up being more crime as people start stealing to fund their addiction.

                    So it will solve one problem and create a different one.

                      Re: Credit card gambling ban

                      Posted by Boondoggledingledangle on 14/1/2020, 13:41:09, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                      That is a very odd conclusion.

                      Are people who have credit cards famous for showing tendencies towards stealing?

                        Re: Credit card gambling ban

                        Posted by crumpsall on 14/1/2020, 12:36:20, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                        Possibly, but you have to start somewhere. Some thought that campaigns about smoking and alcohol awareness didn't stand a chance but the younger generation have certainly got the message despite lack of funding for information investment. And mental health too, which is very clearly the backdrop and major contributory factor to all addictive behaviour.

                          Re: Credit card gambling ban

                          Posted by Dirk on 14/1/2020, 13:19:23, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                          Aren't those statistics on non smokers misleading?

                          The number of people smoking cigarettes has gone down, the number of people vaping is rising heavily. The number of people addicted to nicotine hasn't really changed.

                          Vaping itself, is the gateway to smoking.

                            Re: Credit card gambling ban

                            Posted by crumpsall on 14/1/2020, 13:41:08, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                            Not according to ASH. Vaping numbers dropped in 2019.

                              Re: Credit card gambling ban

                              Posted by Dirk on 14/1/2020, 13:46:59, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                              That's good news, the book I was reading was released early last year.

                            Re: Credit card gambling ban

                            Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 12:39:16, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                            Really, online gambling should be banned altogether.

                            People who would never withdraw 100 pounds cash and walk into a bookies and put it on a horse will think nothing of typing 100 pounds into deposit box online and blow it = possibly whilst being drunk when they place the bet.

                              Re: Credit card gambling ban

                              Posted by Father ted on 14/1/2020, 16:56:48, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                              That's like saying buying alcohol from anywhere apart from a pub should be banned. Millions of people are using online betting responsibly. My guess is alcohol causes more financial woe and family breakdowns than gambling. Should our nanny state chose to do the alcohol ban I'm pretty sure middle England would be up in arms and rightly so. Just because some can't do things responsibly doesn't mean it should be taken away from the majority who can.

                                Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                Posted by Boondoggledingledangle on 14/1/2020, 13:49:25, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                Why ban something just because you don't agree with it?

                                Some people would ban all road traffic if they could, but we would adversely affect us all (including you).

                                  Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                  Posted by Scott Morrison on 14/1/2020, 13:56:33, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                  Haven't you got a bush fire to be fighting rather than trolling on here?

                                    Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                    Posted by Boondoggledingledangle on 14/1/2020, 14:06:45, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                    Why is that trolling?

                                      Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                      Posted by Scott Morrison on 14/1/2020, 14:11:26, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                      You don't live in the country whose laws you are commenting on, you're not a Luton fan and you have been a boring troll on here before under various names including RAV. Now go and do something useful with your life for once, fill a bucket and help fight those fires.

                                        Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                        Posted by Boondoggledingledangle on 14/1/2020, 14:19:29, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                        That is very funny.

                                        I've been a Luton fan for over 30 years. I live in the Luton area and haven't been abroad for over 10 years. And I don't post under different names. But you crack on with whatever this is.

                                          Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                          Posted by Scott Morrison on 14/1/2020, 14:23:06, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                          My mistake then, I've made lots including denying climate change. No changing the fact that you come across as a troll though.

                                            Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                            Posted by Boondoggledingledangle on 14/1/2020, 14:26:22, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                            Why, because I'm challenging someone's opinion?

                                              Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                              Posted by Scott Morrison on 14/1/2020, 14:32:18, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                              No, because you're doing it just for argument's sake as usual, which is trolling.

                                                Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                                Posted by Boondoggledingledangle on 14/1/2020, 14:37:44, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                                Wrong.

                                                Why is saying online gambling shouldn't be banned - trolling? Just because you don't agree with me.

                                    Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                    Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 13:52:48, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                    Because people managed to gamble way before the internet was invented.

                                    If you want to put a bet on go to a betting shop.

                                    The extra walking would also help obesity levels.

                                      Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                      Posted by Boondoggledingledangle on 14/1/2020, 14:08:12, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                      So Netflix should be banned because people used to watch programmes on their TV?

                                    Eastender

                                    Posted by jb on 14/1/2020, 12:54:55, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                    I cant think of anyone we know who would do anything as reckless as that TBH...

                                      Re: Eastender

                                      Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 13:00:12, in reply to "Eastender"



                                      Not something I would ever do myself,obviously.

                                      Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                      Posted by crumpsall on 14/1/2020, 12:47:48, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                      Spot on, in my opinion.

                                      But they are such a strong lobby group, and so many have vested interests.

                                      Legislation has a big role to play, but education and awareness of the damage are the real key I'd say.

                          Re: Credit card gambling ban

                          Posted by Dirk on 14/1/2020, 10:33:54, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                          No shit, it's easy to do, but it's even easier to get around the ban.

                            Re: Credit card gambling ban

                            Posted by HH on 14/1/2020, 10:37:41, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                            I just realised what you meant. Depositing money via PayPal and then using it elsewhere.

                            No idea how you stop that.

                        Re: Credit card gambling ban

                        Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 9:13:44, in reply to "Credit card gambling ban"

                        People will just apply for multiple debit cards.

                          Re: Credit card gambling ban

                          Posted by Andy Cappucino on 14/1/2020, 9:59:26, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                          Surely the point is that debit cards only allow punters to access the money they have in their accounts? Opening multiple accounts won't increase the funds they have. Good move this.

                            Re: Credit card gambling ban

                            Posted by Dirk on 14/1/2020, 10:12:35, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                            You can get debit cards with overdrafts.

                              Re: Credit card gambling ban

                              Posted by Andy Cappucino on 14/1/2020, 10:27:13, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                              Agreed but not so easy to open multiple accounts with overdraft facilities

                                Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 10:21:56, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                Most online bookies accept PayPal.

                                If you can link your PayPal account to your credit card, people will just do that.

                              Re: Credit card gambling ban

                              Posted by NorthLondonHatter on 14/1/2020, 9:27:25, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                              will they? They will need to open lots of bank accounts then.

                                Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 9:29:35, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                Most of the shirt sponsors are firms based abroad eg in Far East.

                                Doubt the UK govt. can regulate how people can bet with them.

                                  Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                  Posted by jb on 14/1/2020, 9:34:30, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                  Bookies may get round this by making credit accounts which by and large have disappeared from the industry since the early 2000s. Particularly as betting debts are now recoverable in court which previously they weren’t .

                                  Although this may off course affect the ‘brand image’ so might not be something they do without considerable thought . At the moment it’s the credit card companies problem not the bookmakers as they’ have already had the money .

                                    Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                    Posted by jb on 14/1/2020, 9:35:47, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                    * credit accounts more available

                                    And yes its of not off !!

                                    Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                    Posted by HH on 14/1/2020, 9:30:43, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                    But if they're using debit cards at least they can, theoretically, run out of their own money. Rather than credit cards where it's just more debt?

                                      Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                      Posted by EastEnder on 14/1/2020, 9:41:03, in reply to "Re: Credit card gambling ban"

                                      yes, but it's not going to stop them making big profits.

                                      It may well reduce them although the roulette machine limits will have a much bigger impact than this.

                                Re: Credit card gambling ban

                                Posted by since 63 on 14/1/2020, 9:12:40, in reply to "Credit card gambling ban"

                                hope so.

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