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    Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

    Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/11/2019, 13:16:26

    ... NJ returning?

    Putting the obvious issue to one side for a moment (the manner of his departure meaning that he has burnt all his bridges here and 2020 would never even consider bringing him back), can any of you who are calling for his return actually make a coherent footballing case for it?

    He has just failed at a club with a bigger budget than us, playing the same system he will continue to play if he returns and which appears to have been found out in this division. He has underachieved, whereas GJ is currently achieving roughly about what many of us expected (although we hoped for better, of course). Why would you replace GJ with NJ?

      Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

      Posted by torviscas playa on 4/11/2019, 18:34:59, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

      nope

        Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

        Posted by Godders on 4/11/2019, 16:07:31, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

        I'll bite but obviously only dealing with your final paragraph.

        The issues he faced at Stoke would have been very different to those being faced with us. He had Premiership wannabees with over inflated egos to deal with which he didn't have with us and probably never would have had.

        Regarding his tactics and the diamond remember it took him ages to actually get it to work properly - even then there is debate as to whether he planned it or stumbled on it due to injuries and suspensions. Be that as it may, once it clicked we were unstoppable because it was a consistent system which everyone knew and understood. Compare that with the constant changes in formation that GJ makes during individual games.

        I would have loved to have seen how our set up under NJ would have fared in the championship as we destroyed some teams on the journey - granted its a higher level but we were also playing above our level for much of the time under NJ. The cup runs showed we didn't disgrace ourselves against higher opposition.

        Then there's the consistency of personnel. Everyone had a good understanding of their colleagues and their roles and positions. A settled team cemented this.

        Now there are counter arguments to these points but I still think they have some validity (maybe not much). But obviously it's highly unlikely* to ever happen for the initial reasons you originally gave.




        *although never say never.

          Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

          Posted by The Outsider on 4/11/2019, 16:44:40, in reply to "Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

          I would have loved to have seen how our set up under NJ would have fared in the championship as we destroyed some teams on the journey - granted its a higher level but we were also playing above our level for much of the time under NJ.

          I am sure that Graeme Jones would have loved to see how that set up would have fared but, unfortunately, the two main factors in that formation are no longer with the club.

          Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

          Posted by Grumio on 4/11/2019, 15:52:27, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

          I think boz would try.

            Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

            Posted by Me on 4/11/2019, 14:55:25, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

            He was my best customer at The Plaster shop.

              Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

              Posted by Realistic on 4/11/2019, 14:33:27, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

              I donít think anybody who isnít just a troll is seriously calling for NJ to return, for the reasons you have stated.

                Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/11/2019, 14:36:26, in reply to "Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                That is my hope, although we do have a few idiots in our fanbase (doesn't every club?) so I'm sure someone out there is genuine about wanting him back. I just wanted to hear their reasoning rather than just shutting them up... And then when they have explained, to shut them up.

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                Posted by homer on 4/11/2019, 14:23:27, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                no, we dont want him back ever

                  Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                  Posted by Since 57 on 4/11/2019, 13:58:26, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                  Definitely not

                    Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                    Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 4/11/2019, 13:46:43, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                    Can we expand it to any other former managers currently out of work. It might distract some from slating current players...

                      Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                      Posted by SKF Clockwatcher on 4/11/2019, 13:27:19, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                      No. I can't. For exactly the reasons you detail in your post.

                        Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                        Posted by Tasty Geezer on 4/11/2019, 13:19:37, in reply to "Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                        Because with GJ, Iím not 100% sure that Luton is in his blood. Whereas NJ .......

                          Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                          Posted by Stimm on 4/11/2019, 14:16:24, in reply to "Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                          GJ should start doing the heart thumping and badge kissing thing.
                          Needs to show he is devoted to the cause like nj was, forever Luton.

                            Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                            Posted by Bogo on 4/11/2019, 15:19:53, in reply to "Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                            I would have loved to have Nathan back at Luton.. I think we are good together. Never say never. He would need to do an apology to all at Luton for the way he left. He would need to say he got it wrong. It could make him and us stronger. I would like a manager at our club that isn't afraid to use youth from our own academy. Where are the Kingsley blacks Folleys justin's. One of own?

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                              Posted by bbb on 4/11/2019, 15:46:22, in reply to "Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                              The majority of the best youth team in decades fukked off without Jones giving them a sniff of first team football.

                              Let's not forget, the sheep bothering, god fearing piece of shit actually preferred Potts to JJ.

                              What a cvnt.

                                Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                                Posted by The Outsider on 4/11/2019, 15:25:30, in reply to "Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                                I would like a manager at our club that isn't afraid to use youth from our own academy

                                So, how would that justify bringing back Nathan Jones

                                  Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for...

                                  Posted by Ches Fordroad on 4/11/2019, 15:25:27, in reply to "Re: Can anyone actually make a genuine case for..."

                                  Yeah, Jones stocked the team with our youth products, didn't he?

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