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    Thornberry on QT last night!!

    Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 13:58:49

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      Posted by Farhat on 6/9/2019, 16:32:54, in reply to "Thornberry on QT last night!!"

      Johnson with the coppers was fantastic though.

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        Posted by cornwall hatter on 6/9/2019, 15:33:38, in reply to "Thornberry on QT last night!!"

        Whenever I see her she reminds me of the actor who played head Slitheen in Dr Who. I wait for her to take off her outer skin and turn into a slug like thing. As for her explanation of the Labour position on negotiated Brexit - comedy gold. You couldn't make it up. We'll negotiate a better deal than the Tories then take it to a Referendum and then we will campaign for Remain - campaign against the deal we have just negotiated.

          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

          Posted by hat on 6/9/2019, 14:13:12, in reply to "Thornberry on QT last night!!"

          I am so glad she was able to clear up the Labour position on leaving the eu if they were in charge of negotiations .

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          Posted by Glory is fleeting on 6/9/2019, 14:03:58, in reply to "Thornberry on QT last night!!"

          Pie eating useless bitch.

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            Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 14:02:44, in reply to "Thornberry on QT last night!!"

            Indeed. Completely owned and shown up to be the two faced hypocritical liar she is.

            And this is the woman Corbyn would appoint a foreign Secretary.

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              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 6/9/2019, 16:15:34, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

              She wouldn't be worse than Johnson.

              And if she could have got two words in without being interrupted by Fiona Bruce and that Brexit twerp, not to mention Kwasi Kwarteng, she might have been able to get her point across.

                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                Posted by Maillot Jaune on 6/9/2019, 21:22:17, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                Priceless. She was absolutely useless and you know it. Agree a "better" deal and then tell everyone not to vote for the "better" deal but vote to remain. In addition, the very notion that the EU would suddenly offer a "better" deal for us to leave (which of course they too are dead against) in the knowledge that those they are negotiating with will campaign to remain anyway is frankly laughable.
                Remind my of the sensible point she was about to make you deluded soul.

                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                  Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 16:56:30, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                  Ok M. She'll be pleased there's someone who likes her.

                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 6/9/2019, 17:04:31, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                    You don't think I have a point?

                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                      Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 17:17:27, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                      You always have a point. I just usually disagree with it.

                      Last night on QT everyone was talking over everyone, the worst offender being wee krankie's man in Westminster.

                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 6/9/2019, 17:46:25, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                        I agree with you there. Fiona Bruce should either put her foot down, or be replaced by someone who can.

                          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                          Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 18:38:31, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                          The latter, I'm afraid. She should stick to Antiques Road show and Fake or Fortune.

                          BBC political correctness got her the QT job. They should have asked Emily Thornbury.

                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                  Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:03:53, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                  Abbotesq

                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                    Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 14:07:10, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                    Which of her views did you find most offensive and why?

                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                      Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 14:20:40, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                      I don't find any of her views offensive, despite their lack of consistency. We live in a democracy (broadly speaking) and she's entitled to them.

                      But to me, she has the most obnoxious of personalities, which, together with a complete sense of humour bypass and face like a bag of spanners, makes her very unattractive. So I guess it's personal.

                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                        Posted by crumpsall on 6/9/2019, 14:42:12, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                        More of a Widdecombe type of chap, SP?

                          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                          Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 14:48:21, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                          I'm an Esther MacVey fan. Widdy never appealed to me. She had nice hair and a reasonable figure when she was younger, but the strobismus is a bit outputting, as is her voice, which always reminds me of a wheelbarrow in need of a good squirt of 3 in 1.

                            Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                            Posted by The Outsider on 6/9/2019, 14:57:11, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                            You'd like to give Ann Widdecombe a good squirt Please feel free to not follow board rules on this occasion !

                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                              Posted by crumpsall on 6/9/2019, 14:55:08, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                              I do hope that concluding phrase is not a euphimism!

                              McVey is a good looking woman but such a despicable politician that her allure is neutered for me.

                              Heidi Allen?

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                                Posted by Maillot Jaune on 6/9/2019, 21:25:38, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                No. I refer you to the despicable politician line again.

                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                  Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 15:06:36, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                  Yes, let's judge female MPs by their looks,very progressive!

                                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 6/9/2019, 15:13:10, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                    I'm merely applying the same principle to Tories as SP does to female Labour MPs. Perhaps a little difficult for you to grasp, Tezza?

                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                      Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 15:20:06, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                      Neither Anne Widdecombe nor Heidi Allen represent the Tories currently.

                                      Do catch up !

                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 6/9/2019, 15:22:57, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                        Yes, I know that.

                                        Both are best known as Tories though, aren't they?

                                        Maybe a bit of lateral thinking is beyond you: the principle is the same.

                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                      Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 15:07:59, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                      Let's judge them by wealth. Very progressive.

                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                      Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 15:02:06, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                      Definitely not a euphemism!

                                      Caroline Flint is my absolute favourite MP totty. She even talks some sense, too.

                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                        Posted by The Outsider on 6/9/2019, 15:00:53, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                        GMTA (or is it FSD)

                                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                    Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 14:31:03, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                    She's another multi property owning leftie who has decided to send her offspring to a selective school.
                                    In other words,a hypocrite.

                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                      Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:33:12, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                      All lefties have to be poor ? UK British politics 2019.

                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                        Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 14:49:24, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                        They can be as rich as they like as long as they practice what they preach.

                                          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                          Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:52:35, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                          So only poor people can be lefties in terry world ? If you are wealthy you must be a right wing loon then ? And why do so many working class folk worship mogg and co ? They must be mental altogether right ?

                                            Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                            Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 15:03:53, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                            Crikey E,that was a long post by your standards and you didn't even mention The Sun once !

                                            Perhaps if I re-read it a few times it might actually make sense.

                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                              Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 15:09:36, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                              Isnt he Jimbo, J in C, Farhat, and Corbyn fan and no doubt many more aliases?

                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 15:11:52, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                I think he's more Dimbo than Jimbo.

                                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                  Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 15:13:46, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                  Very progressive terry, who can argue with that genius post.

                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 15:05:17, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                What was that ? An answer or just word dribble ?

                                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                  Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 15:10:40, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                  They must be mental altogether right?

                                                  How is anyone supposed to answer that !

                                                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                    Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 15:12:43, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                    What part are you having trouble with Mr logic ?

                                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                      Posted by Terry in the Office on 6/9/2019, 15:14:19, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                      The absence of any sense in your random assortment of words.

                                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                        Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 15:15:25, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                        Like dumbo instead of jimbo ? yer cheers brains.

                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                        Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:23:50, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                        Yet you never have a bad word to say about a Tory.

                                          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                          Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/9/2019, 14:42:58, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                          Who, me?

                                          You've obviously not read any of my posts about Cameron, Heath, Hammond, May and numerous others.

                                            Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                            Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:44:26, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                            No. All I ever read is dislike for certain labour people for no logical reason.

                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                              Posted by charlatans spivs and thieves on 6/9/2019, 14:46:45, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                              "no logical reason"

                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                Posted by crumpsall on 6/9/2019, 14:48:52, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                Would you like to provide some logical reasons then? Preferably some which couldn't equally apply to the Tories whose arses you're so keen to kiss.

                                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                  Posted by charlatans spivs and thieves on 6/9/2019, 15:03:27, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                  nice to see you back on here crumps, obviously taking some time off from writing 'Guardian' articles

                                                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 6/9/2019, 15:13:01, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                    Bizarre response, have you started drinking already?

                                                    Before you get too pie-eyed, let's have some 'logical reasons' then, please.

                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                        Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:14:20, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                        Didnt watch it all, but the one where she said Labour if elected would get the best deal available and then do a Ref 2. She would then vote to remain and vote again the 'great' deal labour got etc...

                                          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                          Posted by Noddy on 6/9/2019, 14:24:08, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                          Her basic point is that we have to negotiate the best possible deal from the EU. That is mandated by the referendum result.

                                          She does not however believe that any form of brexit would leave us better off than our current arrangement with the EU

                                          If the best we can get is worse then we currently have it is reasonable to ask people if they still want to do brexit.

                                          And if given a choice between leaving or remaining she would seek to maintain the status quo.

                                          It isn’t that hard if you try to think for yourself rather than pretend the article you read in the sun is a balanced view of a tv show you didn’t watch.

                                            Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                            Posted by The Questioner on 6/9/2019, 14:51:46, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                            Her basic point is that we have to negotiate the best possible deal from the EU. That is mandated by the referendum result.

                                            No shit Sherlock ....

                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                              Posted by HeathHatter on 6/9/2019, 15:00:23, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                              It may be obvious (no shit, Sherlock) but it's something that Johnson, Rees Mogg and Cummings still haven't grasped yet, given that they are hell bent on crashing out with no deal at all.

                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                Posted by The Questioner on 6/9/2019, 15:06:54, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                Of course they want a deal . But it’s pretty obvious after 3+ years we aren’t going to get one that suits the 400+ MP’s that voted to remain .

                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                              Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:42:36, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                              How is a second ref democratic, when Labour and Tory said they would uphold the decision of the first Ref. The house overwhelmingly passed to trigger article 50 by

                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:44:36, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                384 votes. Also the 2 main parties campaigned on taking the UK out of the EU, and this weeks charade in the HoC to block no deal is really to STOP BREXIT.

                                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                  Posted by The Questioner on 7/9/2019, 8:56:46, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                  I think the two main parties line was to remain .

                                                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                    Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 14:55:24, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                    Isn’t it fundamentally democratic to have a second vote on leaving the EU because

                                                    1. People are allowed to change their minds in a democracy
                                                    2. Circumstances can change - eg downsides such as the collapse in sterling.
                                                    3. Arguments which were held out at the time to be true have been shown not to be - eg “it will be the easiest deal in history” etc etc

                                                    Why is it democratic NOT to go back to the people and ask 1. If they are still sure and 2. If so, exactly what kind of Brexit would you like?

                                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                      Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 15:07:09, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"


                                                      1. People are allowed to change their minds in a democracy

                                                      A: Of course mate.

                                                      2. Circumstances can change - eg downsides such as the collapse in sterling.

                                                      A: It's mainly the uncertainty that causes sterling and markets to fluctuate. Even Carney said yesterday the no deal Brexit would not be as bad as first thought.

                                                      3. Arguments which were held out at the time to be true have been shown not to be - eg “it will be the easiest deal in history” etc etc

                                                      A: The EU is making an example of us as it was always going to. The EU project in the medium to long term is crumbling as the anti EU parties are getting increasing support.

                                                      Why is it democratic NOT to go back to the people and ask 1. If they are still sure and 2. If so, exactly what kind of Brexit would you like?

                                                      A: All the suggestions of what would be on a 2nd Ref paper all are weighted to Remain. Also if Remain won would it be best of 3?

                                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                        Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 15:23:13, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                        No if remain won it would simply tell us that:

                                                        In June 2016 people preferred by a margin of 52 to 48 to leave rather than to remain without knowing the terms on which they would leave.

                                                        Whereas

                                                        In late 2019 when given a specific choice between leaving with no deal, leaving with a deal involving irish backstop and remaining people might well decide they’re better off with what they’ve got.

                                                        Or they might not. They might still decide to leave with no deal anyway or leave with a deal.

                                                        Sorry still don’t see why that’s undemocratic in any way.

                                                        Why is it SO important for you to leave with or without a deal that you don’t want to let people choose between those options? Are you worried that people might think again? Are you frightened to let people choose?

                                                          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                          Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 15:26:42, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                          Behave mate.

                                                          So you dont see what is Undemocratic about 'ignoring' the largest 'Democatic' vote in our history?

                                                            Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                            Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 15:34:16, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                            But we haven’t ignored it have we? We’ve spent 3 years doing little else in this country than trying to get the best possible deal out of the EU to leave...

                                                            Let me try again - why is it SO important for you to leave without consulting the people on whether they’re ok with that deal or prefer no deal?

                                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                              Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 15:43:49, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                              Unfortunately the remainer May along with remainer Hammond made sure that the WA was so one sided, no one in there right mind would vote for it.

                                                              Have no trouble with a Ref for some sort of deal or no deal mate.

                                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 15:57:24, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                But you said that we’d be “ignoring” the 2016 vote if we had another one. Do you now accept that we haven’t ignored it at all? Do you accept we all know a lot more about the implications than we did 3 years ago?

                                                                Or would you rather we left with no deal come what may?

                                                                Just trying to get you to be clear mate...

                                                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                  Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 16:02:06, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                  Right, dont want another vote would be anti democratic.

                                                                  Not ecstatic about leaving with no deal, but EU have forced our hand with their reluctance to negotiate.

                                                                  Good enough for you mate?

                                                                    Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                    Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 16:12:43, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                    Who voted for no deal mate ? And when can we have another vote in this democratic world view ?

                                                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                      Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 16:12:19, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                      Yep. Clear now you think another vote would be “anti democratic” despite also thinking people are allowed to change their minds in a democracy.

                                                                      You think the EU is making an example of us “as it was always going to” despite every leave campaigner at the time saying the EU would give us a good deal no problem.

                                                                      And you don’t see any problem leaving with no deal despite no evidence that was what people wanted in 2016. In fact you think it would be fundamentally undemocratic to just check by asking them now.

                                                                      Yep. I’m satisfied there is absolutely no rationale whatsoever to your arguments. Thanks!

                                                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                        Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 16:15:31, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                        Ha Ha , yes that about sums it up mate!

                                                                        Cheers for posting..

                                                            Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                            Posted by Noddy on 6/9/2019, 15:15:16, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                            Good grief.

                                                            For the time being at least every vote will be about brexit.
                                                            If we leave on 31st of October then the next election will have a party standing on a rejoin the eu ticket.

                                                            If we somehow decide to remain Farage isn’t going to go away. This will never, ever end. This get it over and done with by the end of October is a fantasy.

                                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                              Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 15:18:30, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                              Not so sure it would be so easy to rejoin as we would have to join the Euro, and dont think that would be a great idea, do you?

                                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                Posted by Noddy on 6/9/2019, 16:43:48, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                Depends how bad brexit turns out. May be abhorrent to you. Personally I don’t care

                                                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                  Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 15:28:47, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                  Sorry why do you think we’d have to join the euro if we ever rejoined? What currency do Croatia have? (Clue: not the euro) When did they join the EU? (Clue: well after the euro was launched)

                                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                      Posted by City Gent on 6/9/2019, 14:36:32, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                      Rational. Logical. Reasonable.

                                                      I think you might be my new favourite best poster on here, Noddy, mate...

                                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                      Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:26:18, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                      She should join the Lib Dems or the Greens then, as they are the only openly remain parties.

                                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                        Posted by Noddy on 6/9/2019, 14:41:29, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                        That depends upon whether brexit is the single issue that consumes her every waking moment or if she feels more at home with the social and economic policies of her fellow labour mps.

                                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                        Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:25:40, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                        Ah. So many sun readers, so many deny ever reading it.

                                                      Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                      Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 14:17:52, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                      Wouldn’t you in that case be able to choose specifically between Labour’s deal (which I acknowledge could well be exactly the same as Theresa May’s deal), no deal or remain? What’s wrong with that exactly?

                                                        Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                        Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:21:01, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                        Perhaps you should join the Labour party mate They dont want to stop no deal, they want to cancel Brexit. They should join the Lib Dems!!

                                                          Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                          Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 14:26:31, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                          I’m not a member of any party but my views weren’t what we were debating... I was merely keen to understand perhaps why either you or Suffolk Punch found her views so offensive?

                                                          Go on. Try again... Why would it be so bad for you to choose between those 3 options? And why does Emily Thornberry offering you that choice make her views so troubling to you?

                                                            Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                            Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:34:04, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                            What I find really offensive mate is anti democratic MP's who are hell bent on over turning the biggest democratic vote in our history. Thought to be fair to her, Islington was one of the biggest remain constituencies, not like the 170 labour MP's who represent leave constituencies. No wonder they dont want a general election.

                                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                              Posted by Paddy Hatter on 6/9/2019, 14:46:22, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

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                                                              Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                              Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 14:41:12, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                              Really? But couldn’t you bring yourself to vote just one more time if you think it’s so important to leave the EU? Now we know exactly what the choices and tradeoffs involved are?

                                                              You’d even get to choose specifically between leaving with the deal (Irish backstop and all) and no deal. It could be single transferable vote - and then we’d know with far more certainty than we did in June 2016 what the “will of the people” really is.

                                                              Cards on table I’d vote 1st pref leave with deal. 2nd pref remain.

                                                              What about you?

                                                              And why aren’t people allowed to change their minds anyway? Isn’t that what democracy is about?

                                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                Posted by Yea on 6/9/2019, 14:51:51, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                I think my main objection is not about me voting, as I would. But there was a record number of people who voted for the first time a who are there 40's and 50's. It is very unlikely they would bother again as who's to say the result wouldnt be ignored again, like the Lib Dems want.

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                                                              Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:27:49, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                              You are not reall expecting an answer ?

                                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                Posted by Patriotic Hatter on 6/9/2019, 14:29:54, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                I’’d be delighted to hear either of them answer yes because I’d genuinely like to understand what their problem is with Thornberry’s proposal - as it sounds fundamentally democratic to me.

                                                                  Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                  Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:32:07, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                  I did not see it to be fair. You won't get a sensible answer because this is where we are.

                                                                Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!

                                                                Posted by Eric on 6/9/2019, 14:28:07, in reply to "Re: Thornberry on QT last night!!"

                                                                Really.

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