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Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by Matt Dahl on October 10, 2024, 4:55 pm

I inherited an old box of parts (from about ten different guns) that had the parts for everything BUT the barrel for a 12ga hammer double gun. If anyone has a line on an early hammer 12 barrel, I would be eternally grateful and be able to bring this 120 plus year old girl back to life.

Mjdahl4@hotmail.com

Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by Tom Garver on October 11, 2024, 6:54 am, in reply to "Hammer 12 Barrel needed"

Matt, we need a serial number or date of manufacture. Not all 12 gauge barrels were made the same. Tom

Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by Matt Dahl on October 11, 2024, 5:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed"
Edited by board administrator October 11, 2024, 5:47 pm

The SN is 25544. It’s a field grade that I would guess is 1890s.

Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by Tom Garver on October 11, 2024, 7:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed"

Matt, your gun was made in Syracuse, NY circa 1887-88 by LC Smith and is a model F, not a field grade. No records remain on these guns but hopefully David Williamson will chime in here as he has studied these LC Smith guns extensively. Parts are very difficult to find and your barrels have the roller check joint which further limits what may be available

Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by Ken Descovich on October 11, 2024, 7:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed"

The frame has some large breech balls it may be a 10 ga. Or even possibly an 8 ga.

Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by Matt Dahl on October 11, 2024, 7:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed"

Thanks Tom. I appreciate the information. If further pics might help in this endeavor, I can certainly post them.

Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by Matt Dahl on October 11, 2024, 7:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed"

I’m embarrassed to admit that I did not measure the marks on the breech face and they do indeed appear to be a 10ga. In my defense the rack in the second shot are the guns I have managed to salvage and restore from the bin. They were all mixed down to screws springs and pins.

Sorry for the lack of attention on my part. This appears to be a 10.

Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed

Posted by David Williamson on October 12, 2024, 3:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed"

Matt from your picture showing the dimension of where the brass casing has left the casing head mark on the receiver face is.975 and probably is a 10 ga. A 12 ga. would be .875+ and an 8 ga. would be close to 1.000.
I'm sure that the receiver opening for the barrel is rectangular with square corners and would be a late Syracuse L.C. Smith or very early Hunter Arms Co., Fulton, N.Y. of 1889. In my records serial number 25470 has L.C. Smith Maker on top of barrels. Most do not when the company was sold in 1889 To John Hunter Sr.
Finding a barrel could be a tough find but they do show up. Good luck.

Re: Hammer 10 Barrel needed

Posted by Matt Dahl on October 12, 2024, 4:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Hammer 12 Barrel needed"

Thanks for the help to all who looked at it. I’ll put this one on the back burner until a barrel set shows. I have a hard time making an “organ donor” and parting it out. There’s too much history to do that.

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