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L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 15, 2022, 5:08 pm

Need a firing pin for above shotgun it is the bushing type, any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Ronnie gmail adress is ronnieclinton1950@gmail.com telephone no. 865-661-8864. thanks

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Drew Hause on November 16, 2022, 3:17 pm, in reply to "L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Several are listed on ebay. I have no personal experience, nor connection with any of the vendors
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=l.c.+smith+shotgun+firing+pin&_sacat=0

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 16, 2022, 3:32 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

thanks Drew for responding so fast, i think my gun acording too serial no should be 1895, i traded for it, it was took apart partially only thing missing was firing pin. beautiful old gun in outstanding shape only thing odd no name or proof marks anywhere on bbl only serial no and no 2, all numbers matched i am anxious too shoot i shoot black powder in my other old parker shotguns will do same in this one thanks again ronnie.

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Drew Hause on November 16, 2022, 5:16 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Have you looked over the information in the FAQs Ronnie?
https://lcsca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=274&club_id=43784
There are instructions on Smith reassembly, and evaluating the safety of using your almost 130 year old gun.

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 16, 2022, 5:56 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Dre, thanks again for your response, i think im going too find a l.c. smith gunsmith too evaluate this gun , i think why i got such a good deal on it was because it had been partially taken apart. really nice damascus barrels with no pitting or dents 85% case colors , and i looked pictures of engraving its looks like the picture quality 3? firing pin and bushing were out cant get bushing too start straight so im back too square one. thanks again for your response . ronnie

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ken Descovich on November 16, 2022, 8:03 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Ronnie, all the firing pin bushings are at a slight cant they are made that way not sure why but they are you will have to grind them parallel to the face of the frame. I presume the best way would be with a mill.
Ken

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 17, 2022, 12:27 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Thanks Ken I had worked most of the afternoon on shotgun yesterday , i think i was just getting tired. I am going too look at it again this afternoon. Thanks Ronnie

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by David Williamson on November 17, 2022, 3:05 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Ronnie, your gun was made before they started proofing them around the mid 1920's.

As Ken has stated, the bushing are at a slight angle and if they are the originals they are not interchangeable from side to side. So if you get one in and it is not flush to the receiver then it belongs on the other side.
Good luck and let us know how you make out.

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 17, 2022, 5:40 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Thanks David for responding, it is the original bushing, I think I am just getting bushing started cross threaded, i have looked at the receiver and bushing under magnification and can see no problem, I am taking too gunsmith, too see if he can see anything wrong. i would like too buy firing pin for this if anyone has one for sale. i have tried gun parts corp. and they are out of the one i need. thanks so much ronnie

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Louis Rotelli on November 18, 2022, 6:28 am, in reply to "L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Hi Ronnie,
I can make the bushings and the pins for you if you need them. The bushings will be fit properly and timed when done

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by David Williamson on November 18, 2022, 6:48 am, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Ronnie, I believe the threads are 5/16"x32.

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie clinton on November 18, 2022, 2:26 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Thanks for such a fast reply, how much for firing pins and bushings.thanks Ronnie

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 18, 2022, 2:33 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Thanks for such a fast reply, and for information.Ronnie

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 19, 2022, 9:00 am, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Louis could I ship you my receiver with butt stock attached , i have the left firing pin and bushing installed and working. Too nice , for me too mess up. i tried for hours and cant line up right bushing. Thanks so much. Ronnie Clinton

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Louis Rotelli on November 21, 2022, 6:36 am, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Yes That would be fine. Send it USPS

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by Ronnie Clinton on November 21, 2022, 7:26 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

I am off work all this week send me your address and i will get it in the mail. thanks Ronnie

Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx

Posted by John Mistretta on November 30, 2022, 6:01 pm, in reply to "Re: L.C. Smith old model hamerless shotgun 12 guage ser#393xx"

Can you post a picture of your firing pin. Maybe can help.

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